FINAL FANTASY XVI

[Heaven Angel]

35 minutes ago, roun90 said:

 

That's great news!! The World that was created with FF16 (Valisthea) is too awesome. There is a lot of scope for the World to expand, and there is a lot of scope for more stories to be told. We even have threads in the main game itself which can expand the game. For example (Taken from base game itself, but there are spoilers so be careful) -

 

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The "Lost Eikon" Leviathan - The Eikon of Water which Joshua notes in Waloed (And is not present in-game. There is no Dominant of Water in-game. I say Water because Leviathan is always associated with water in all FF Games). The Adventures of Cid in his Younger Days and how he formed contacts with so many important people - along with his history with Benedikta. The Story of Barnabas and how he went Akashic. Other Gods in Valisthea (It's hinted that Ultima was not the only God) 

 

Sequels that expand the game after the events of FF16. It would be a shame if FF16 gets a one-and-done game. Especially when the World itself is so interesting. When FF7 can get new games that expand on it's World decades down the line - heck, when FF13 could get 3 extra games and FF15 could get multiple DLCs - then FF16 deserves more DLCs at the very bare minimum and sequels that expand the World too!!

 

This, Square Enix and Business Unit III team has done a marvelous job in creating this world and story. There could literally be sequels made out of it. What more beautiful about it is that everything was made from the scratch, I mean it wasn't built on already an established baseline story like GOW. Everything is unique and well made. 

 

I'm betting on Cidolfus Telamon DLC and/or Clive Rosfield and Jill Warrick past but there are numerous other ideas for DLC that I can think of right now which are a bit spoilery. 

 

The story has got me so hooked that I've literally spent 6 or more hours learning about the world in game. The game has also done a very good job explaining each section, characters and situational progress across each empire in Valisthea with State of the Realm Vivian Ninetales. The Loremaster Harpocrates has lots of information in books which many would not pay attention to. 

 

I literally spend quite sometime after each mission to read and learn about everything which makes me a living encyclopaedia of the game . The background music in each fight and stages are so grand like I've posted. Makes your experience more vivid. 

[b!T]

I wish Harpocrates notes are available outside the game. It would make a really good bedtime read.

[Vaibhavp]

9 hours ago, Heaven Angel said:

 

This, Square Enix and Business Unit III team has done a marvelous job in creating this world and story. There could literally be sequels made out of it. What more beautiful about it is that everything was made from the scratch, I mean it wasn't built on already an established baseline story like GOW. Everything is unique and well made. 

 

Is this your first Final Fantasy game?

 

They do this with each installment.

[Heaven Angel]

 

[roun90]

2 hours ago, Vaibhavp said:

 

Is this your first Final Fantasy game?

 

They do this with each installment.

 

They do - but not all FF worlds are created equal. For example - you said FFX and FF12. FFX should never have had a sequel. The story of FFX was ended with FFX-1 itself. Forcing sequels just ruined the entire World of FFX. Same with FF13 and FF15. Boring worlds, with sequels and DLCs rammed down our throats - simply because SE had created an engine and they needed to use that engine for something. FF16 is not like that. The base game has laid down a foundation for an entire World - and there is a narrative possibility to expand upon that World in a huge way. Valisthea has a huge potential, unlike FFX's Spira or FF13's Cocoon/Pulse

 

Also, this is just my opinion but FFX and FF12 were never the finest FF Games in the first place. That actually goes to FF4, FF6, FF7 and FF9. Most of the FF Series tropes and constants actually come from 4,6, and 7. FFX was utterly ruined by the sequel and further gutted by the abomination called Audio Drama (X-2 and Audio Drama are unfortunately considered canon). FF12 was an SP game with MMO Gameplay, and the MC was a complete non-entity (To the point he may as well not exist). FF16 is already leagues above both of them. It's already competing with FF6 and FF7 (Won't say it's better - but it's definitely in the same league).

 

[Vaibhavp]

4 minutes ago, roun90 said:

 

Also, this is just my opinion but FFX and FF12 were never the finest FF Games in the first place. That actually goes to FF4, FF6, FF7 and FF9. Most of the FF Series tropes and constants actually come from 4,6, and 7. FFX was utterly ruined by the sequel and further gutted by the abomination called Audio Drama (X-2 and Audio Drama are unfortunately considered canon). FF12 was an SP game with MMO Gameplay, and the MC was a complete non-entity (To the point he may as well not exist). 

 

 

X was excellent. Never played the sequal. Started it but dropped within an hour. I don't play DLC/remakes of games that I like, they just ruin original for me.

 

12 had some issues but overall it's world building, lore etc were excellent. Combat was a bit tedious but had a lot of depth with gambit system. And was extremely challenging. You really needed to learn everything about it to come on top. Vaan complaints, I never understood. MC doesn't have to stand out if rest of the cast is interesting, at least for me. Overall i think it's a solid entry and a great game without reservation IMO. 

 

4 minutes ago, roun90 said:

FF16 is already leagues above both of them. It's already competing with FF6 and FF7 (Won't say it's better - but it's definitely in the same league).

 

 

Seriously? 

 

Be careful with your claims. I will play it and get back to this.

 

To be clear, am not a fan of spectacle in games, especially if it's accompanied by QTEs. 

 

I already know it has excellent music, lore/world building etc. What will make/break for me is moment to moment combat system and if I am having fun. 

[roun90]

24 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said:

 

X was excellent. Never played the sequal. Started it but dropped within an hour. I don't play DLC/remakes of games that I like, they just ruin original for me.

 

12 had some issues but overall it's world building, lore etc were excellent. Combat was a bit tedious but had a lot of depth with gambit system. And was extremely challenging. You really needed to learn everything about it to come on top. Vaan complaints, I never understood. MC doesn't have to stand out if rest of the cast is interesting, at least for me. Overall i think it's a solid entry and a great game without reservation IMO. 

 

 

Seriously? 

 

Be careful with your claims. I will play it and get back to this.

 

To be clear, am not a fan of spectacle in games, especially if it's accompanied by QTEs. 

 

I already know it has excellent music, lore/world building etc. What will make/break for me is moment to moment combat system and if I am having fun. 

Do play and see. This game is not something you can get the experience of just by watching (even gameplay wise it's equivalent to watching a DMC or Nier game - no point). Also, not all spectacles are QTE fests. There are full on combat and battles in the middle of the spectacles. The story is excellent- and so much of the World's story and characterization only happens via side quests (2nd half of the game. I'll admit first half of the game side-quests are miserable). From there - you recognize the potential of the World. This is one of the only games where the entire World changes based upon where you are in tge story and what you've done in side-quests (these changes will be visible even in small and minor towns, along with the Entire World).

 

Stop watching the video playthrough - play the game with an open mind (it'll come to PC soon anyway), and then decide the quality of the game!!

[Sach4life]

Story here is definitely amongst the upper tier of FF games. This ddfinitely sits amongst the likes of FF Tactics and 6 in that regard. Combat here is good, but not without its flaws. Stagger system is something i am not really fond of. 

[gecko89]

And it's done, completed the story.

9.5/10 game imo. One of the best in the FF mainline series. 

 

Demo made me preorder, was hoping the rest of the game would sustain that magic. And boi it did, only went up after the demo part of the game, and that applies to almost every aspect, characters, score, story, gameplay, cutscenes. 

Early sub missions were meh.

 

Clive is very likeable, Cid and Dion are my other two fav characters. Wish Jote had more screen time 😍

 

I agree with this game having potential for good expansions, maybe something about the fallen or perhaps that 8th dominant and weird structure off of Sanbreque.

Edited July 16 by gecko89

[Heaven Angel]

2 hours ago, Vaibhavp said:

Seriously? 

 

Be careful with your claims. I will play it and get back to this.

 

To be clear, am not a fan of spectacle in games, especially if it's accompanied by QTEs. 

 

I already know it has excellent music, lore/world building etc. What will make/break for me is moment to moment combat system and if I am having fun. 

 

This tells me you're not fond of fast paced action games like DMC which needs quick decisions but slo mo genre of games where you can think maybe for an hour before making your next move. 

Spectacles are the one of the adornments of this game, it has been done superbly. You just want to go back and play it again to enjoy and appreciate that wowness again.

QTE's are well placed in the end of very few battles, QTEs are only in the beginning to adapt the player to the rythm of the game but are removed afterwards. For me it's totally fine and keeps you engaged. The fights are way more cinematic that way. Don't get the hate.

 

BTW, how much have you seen it on YouTube? Just tell in percentage, I haven't completed the game yet. 

[Vaibhavp]

1 hour ago, Heaven Angel said:

 

This tells me you're not fond of fast paced action games like DMC which needs quick decisions but slo mo genre of games where you can think maybe for an hour before making your next move. 

Spectacles are the one of the adornments of this game, it has been done superbly. You just want to go back and play it again to enjoy and appreciate that wowness again.

QTE's are well placed in the end of very few battles, QTEs are only in the beginning to adapt the player to the rythm of the game but are removed afterwards. For me it's totally fine and keeps you engaged. The fights are way more cinematic that way. Don't get the hate.

 

 

I like action games like Platinum or Team Ninja games. Or RPGs from From Soft. Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Elden Ring are some of my favourites. 

 

Used to like set pieces in games, I think it was God of War 3 that soured me on them. Was highly disappointed why it wasn't like God of War 2.

 

1 hour ago, Heaven Angel said:

 

BTW, how much have you seen it on YouTube? Just tell in percentage, I haven't completed the game yet. 

 

Mostly looking at combat sections. That's biggest issue I had with FFXIII and XV.

 

Seen some boss fights, T***n one was good, it lets you keep full control. First one in demo section didn't look all that interesting.

[Heaven Angel]

"Combat needs depth" .. this guy craps the haters on the face. 

 

 

 

 

[Purana Khiladi]

Titan phase 1 and phase 3 were gloriousPhase2 kinda too long and GOW3 poseidon inspired. 

 

The Combat is exceptional. 

 

 

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Japanese Final Fantasy XVI accolades trailer

 

 

Well deserved.. 

[Heaven Angel]

What in the Holy Jesus of mother have I experienced the fight with TITAN. My eye popped out and rolled like twisters. 

A true epicness, the powah of PS5. Insane insane f**kn.. insane! 

 

 

A true next generation gem. This is what I was looking for in the new generation. Yeh nahi khela to kya khela. 

The graphics, music, massive scale, solid gameplay. 

 

[rushab oswal]

10 hours ago, Heaven Angel said:

What in the Holy Jesus of mother have I experienced the fight with TITAN. My eye popped out and rolled like twisters. 

A true epicness, the powah of PS5. Insane insane f**kn.. insane! 

 

 

A true next generation gem. This is what I was looking for in the new generation. Yeh nahi khela to kya khela. 

The graphics, music, massive scale, solid gameplay. 

 

 

This is one of those games  that will move consoles for sony.

[Heaven Angel]

2 hours ago, rushab oswal said:

This is one of those games  that will move consoles for sony.

 

The fact that this is a boss fight that's only halfway through the game is astounding. I've never seen anything like this before. No game has ever done this with this kind of fidelity. 

The developers really said : "Lets make every boss of the game like final boss"