supershaji Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Hi all, Just got myself a new PS3 (40GB PAL) and set it up yesterday. Living in Hyderabad, we experience many an abrupt Power-Cut. Was wondering what the best solution for this is, Can we use the regular UPS power backup which is used for PCs? that would take care of both, fluctuations and powercuts. if so, what minimum capacity? I just got a little paranoid coz im coming back to gaming after about 10 years (wow, Im 30 already). The manual says we must not connect the console to an "Inverter". I understand this could mean a step town or car inverters so on, but who wants to take a chance, eh? Looking forward to your reply. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abhi90 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Hi all, Just got myself a new PS3 (40GB PAL) and set it up yesterday. Living in Hyderabad, we experience many an abrupt Power-Cut. Was wondering what the best solution for this is, Can we use the regular UPS power backup which is used for PCs? that would take care of both, fluctuations and powercuts. if so, what minimum capacity? I just got a little paranoid coz im coming back to gaming after about 10 years (wow, Im 30 already). The manual says we must not connect the console to an "Inverter". I understand this could mean a step town or car inverters so on, but who wants to take a chance, eh? Looking forward to your reply. Thanks in advance. post in ps3 quries..... and BEST of all......use the search button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Dude u ought to have used the search function. This has been discussed in other threads. The mods will b on your a*s now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkpl2004 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 better use i my first hdd when bad bcoz i had no ups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supershaji Posted September 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Dude u ought to have used the search function. This has been discussed in other threads. The mods will b on your a*s now . ouch! well, I did run a search for "UPS" before I posted my thread here. Well will try again. thanks dkpl2004, going out to get one right now. see u all here again! PS: sorry for any inconvenience caused mods. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmjow Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 As for your question..get any APC UPS, would be fine for the PS3. A 650VA for approx 3k or so gives me 20 minutes backup time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkpl2004 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 a 500 va ups is more than enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeatoma Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 a 500 va ups is more than enough ^^But the bigger question is? Do you use the UPS when your updating firmware or all the time? Most UPS's are non sinewave, which is whats required for a PS3. Won't the PS3's mobo overheat if you have it constantly connected to a UPS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayush12ice Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 i hv my ps3 connected to an APC 1100VA UPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MITHUNtheDON Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Ps3 gone for a toss man , with that power range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supershaji Posted September 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Ps3 gone for a toss man , with that power range what power range? But the bigger question is? Do you use the UPS when your updating firmware or all the time? Most UPS's are non sinewave, which is whats required for a PS3. Won't the PS3's mobo overheat if you have it constantly connected to a UPS? say what?? what's dat supposed to mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeatoma Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 what power range?say what?? what's dat supposed to mean? mobo means motherboard...EG...the internal hardware of the PS3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supershaji Posted September 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 and what does a "non sinewave" UPS supposed to mean? and its effect/damage to the PS3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeatoma Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I'm not sure, but it has me kind of worried. I read some peoples threads on this very board that said that that non-sinewave ups don't provide the "pure power" needed for the PS3. And eventually it could damage the PS3 hardware. I've been trying to get a definitive answer for a while now, but the board is still split on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmjow Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Pure sine wave: This is a pure sine way as it says, it is a constant slope on a graph, if you know what I mean, it is a constant change, there are no edges/steps in the wave. Stepped sine wave: A stepped sine way is not a pure sine wave but it is incremented in smaller steps, instant of a constant slope it has edges in the graph. Simulated Sine Wave: Here we use Squares or Trapeziums to Simulate a sine wave. The following are from Google hope they help you all understand. As said by Infected on TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supershaji Posted October 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 got it. I must contact the manufacturer of the UPS's i own and ask (APC and Numeric brands) and ask them about the sinewave thing. Quite strange the issue hasn't been brought up here on the board, I'm sure plenty of us in the Country must be using UPS's considering the voltage and powercut situation. another thing, do power stabilizers give an pure sinewave power output? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoeN Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Im going to buy an UPS aswell, UPS + Inverter ; individual units. As for APC, id recommend to stay away from them, the only range that offers "Pure" Sine wave is the SMART UPS range, and that is well above the point of its worth (products from APC that is). The cheaper series from APC, IE the Home / Back up, are stepped sine wave. Im looking into the Su-Kam series since ive been hearing good things about it, and they offer "Pure" Sine wave for a good price. But dont hold me by it, since i havent confirmed ill be gettin it. As for the " " for infront of Pure... there really is no such thing as "Pure" Sine wave. Ask any EE student and they will give u much more clearer picture. Pure is nothing more than a marketing gimmick, however it comes close to what you get from power grids, at about 98% or some such rating, and they term that as pure, where as it should be 100% and only than can it actually be classified as PURE. Why would you need pure? Most E Items, work in that spectrum (not sure if this is the def to go by), I.E Power which comes from the grid to your home, some have pretty good tolerance levels (i think this depends on the capcitors used in the item) and dont require it to be absolutely pure, however you'll hear a buzzing sound if you use non pure UPS, which is not really a good thing. Why (Inverter) + (UPS)? UPS = when the power goes off, the ps3 / computer is not going to restart, the UPS kicks in at some milliseconds after the power goes off. The inverter on the other hand, takes some time to kick in(resulting in the restart of the hardware), however there are models which offer UPS+ series which dont result in this. Inverters primary use = Improved back up times + efficiency. UPS = Short back up times + lower efficiency in recharging the battery. (I think, or atleast thats what my research says) What rating should i get? The ps3 is ratted at about 200 watts+(correct me if im wrong not a 100% sure) so get anything above or equal to 500V that should be adequate, but remember that when the power goes off, and ur updating the firmware, you need to be able to see whats on the LCD/TV... take that (wattage of the TV/LCD) into consideration aswell. Currently ive just hooked up my PS3 + Comp + LCD TV + Router to 2 stablizers with some 400 rating or something, power stablizers just make sure that the power from the grid is as clean as possible, and protect it from spikes and such, when i used to help my cousin repair computers, the no.1 cause of equipment failure was due to non existent power stablizers. Ive used my PS3 for a year now, with power cuts and so on, but no issues so far....TOUCH WOOD! F**k that was one long post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsahil Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 ^^^ awesome post Neoen. is the non-sinewave UPS gonna cause damage to the PS3 if used for short intervals such as during updating firmware and downloading games? Technobomber says that he's been using nonsinewave UPS for his PS3 for months without any damage and do u recommend voltage stabilizer for PS3? and if u do, which company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoeN Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Thanks ~ ~ The thing about non-sine wave, i really have no authority to comment on that, i think it boils down to, how solid/sensitive an item that is connected to the UPS really is. The way i look at things is, buy the best, even if it costs a bit more, theoretically if sine wave's are considered god-like, might aswell go with it. As i stated before, it depends on the equipment, if your friend's saying that its been doing good, then go with it, if yours is the indian PS3 you'll have warranty so no worries ~ ~ Power / Voltage stablizers are a freaking must! But if your getting the UPS then you dont need em since UPS comes built in with Voltage stablizers / Surge protectors. I.E(this will be specified) Input Voltage Range 175 - 295V ... As for the brands for power stablizers im really not sure, when i came back to india, i just went with my uncle and got what ever he recommended. Just make sure the VA specified on the Power Stablizer is above 400! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 I have a weird problem, I tried using a Microtek UPS and tested it with my PS3. I connected my LCD and PS3 to it. and just switched off the main supply. What happened was that the ps3 switched off for a second, and then when the ups backup started, it turned back on. That doesnt really serve the purpose of using a UPS in case of power failure during system updates. The UPS is working fine, when i tried it with a computer, The computer was unaffected. I tried some other UPS of numeric make too, same thing happened. Will this always happen if I test it by switching off the main supply. Or should i wait for the power to actually go off and see the result? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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