cyberpunk Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 23 hours ago, hope said: I agree it wont be buggy this one for sure. They must have already cloned Uncharted, all it needs is a little makeover and polish so shouldn't be Buggy You mean how Nathan Drake is poor man's Indiana Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpearHea:D Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 Hyped for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hope Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, cyberpunk said: You mean how Nathan Drake is poor man's Indiana Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roun90 Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 23 hours ago, WhiteWolf said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/gamerant.com/indiana-jones-xbox-exclusivity/amp/ Klobrille thinks this could be those case by case games. MS should just confirm it and stop these back nd forth discussions. If they want on PS then just confirm it . Frankly, I agree with the statement, only in this specific case. They cannot confirm anything as of now - even if Bethesda acquisition goes through. In this case, it will all depend on console sales and future negotiations. This is simply because there is a Granddaddy called Disney behind this. Sony could get away with Spiderman exclusivity because PS4 was dominant last gen + They had leverage with Spiderman Movie Deals. MS/Bethesda have no such leverage, and console sale numbers are also up in the air. It would be a very bad thing if they insist on exclusivity now and Disney tears the IP away from them. Hence, why I always prefer studios to do original IPs. Unlike 3rd Parties, there will be no baggage attached to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS Fan Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 Tbh As long as its on Game pass, im happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstationdude Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 6 hours ago, WhiteWolf said: Tbh As long as its on Game pass, im happy I don't think the Mouse is gonna let go of a major piece of of it's pie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS Fan Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, playstationdude said: I don't think the Mouse is gonna let go of a major piece of of it's pie. Interesting post i read on Era from a verified dev account. Quote Just to make something clear, Disney/Lucasfilm don't dictate the platforms for the games, everything is up to the publisher/developer, it's not like they said to Bethesda that they have to publish Indiana Jones on PS5, XBX|S, PC or they won't get the license, that's not how these deals work and they never worked like that before, platform strategy and releasing schedule was always up to the publishers or LucasArts when they were publishing the games. Several Star Wars and IJ games title skipped all sort of platforms back in the 90s and 00s, even stuff published by LucasArts What this guy is saying is 100% true. Many old SW games skipped PS2 and other consoles. Indiana Jones emperor of tomb launched first on Original Xbox and came to PS2 1 year late. Disney don't dictate platforms. They interested in final product and their cut. Developer decides platforms and engine. If game is bad or flop then Disney will choose other developer. Also MS is already in partnership with Disney for Disney plus. They were giving Disney plus subscription to game pass owners few months back. Anything can happen with this one. Edited January 15, 2021 by WhiteWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS Fan Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) Just now, adity said: What they do want is money. Since Game Pass removes the fixed $60 game sales, I'm assuming they have a bigger fixed component as part of the license. PC Steam. Their it will be full priced and not everyone use game pass on Xbox Edited January 15, 2021 by WhiteWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS Fan Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, adity said: Yeah but most people will still go with game pass. Not really. PC users hate how game pass works on PC. Its really bad. Steam users will have to use Windows store to access game pass. Not all PC gamers are in GP Even not all Xbox users use game pass. Some just buy games straight away or wait for sale Edited January 15, 2021 by WhiteWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS Fan Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) And MS pays upfront big amount to publishers who put games in GP. So Disney will get their money either way. MS need content for their subscription big time and for that they will not mind paying good amount for popular lucas films IP Edited January 15, 2021 by WhiteWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roun90 Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, WhiteWolf said: And MS pays upfront big amount to publishers who put games in GP. So Disney will get their money either way. MS need content for their subscription big time and for that they will not mind paying good amount for popular lucas films IP MS is rich. But it's not Disney Level rich. Disney is making a universe with all the old IPs. There's a Star Wars Universe, Marvel Universe, Pixar Universe, old Disney movies Universe and now an Indiana Jones Universe as well. This includes future films (to be released 2022), further TV Shows, Toys and other merchandise as well. The video game is just a small part of that universe. You think any exclusivity will be allowed when they are making a new shared universe like Star Wars? I repeat, Sony only got away with it because they had a leverage due to Spiderman movies, which Disney desperately wanted + Xbox One was minuscule last gen, to the point of irrelevance. If PS5 has even a decent (not even massive, just decent enough) install base, it's highly doubtful that the game will be exclusive. The only thing MS can blackmail Disney with is Windows PCs. You think MS will put in contract that Indiana Jones has to be exclusive or all Windows PCs and MS Offices in the Disney HQ will be shut down? Thats ridiculous. The Mouse these days is not the Mouse of PS2 era. PS2 era and before, the Mouse was really good, what with making movies like Lion King and all + having a bit of principals. It's super greedy right now and even more buy happy than MS. It owns around 50%+ of Hollywood and drives almost all competitors to the ground. A real Scrooge the Mouse is at the moment, unfortunately. Edited January 15, 2021 by roun90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sach4life Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, roun90 said: MS is rich. But it's not Disney Level rich. Disney is making a universe with all the old IPs. There's a Star Wars Universe, Marvel Universe, Pixar Universe, old Disney movies Universe and now an Indiana Jones Universe as well. This includes future films (to be released 2022), further TV Shows, Toys and other merchandise as well. The video game is just a small part of that universe. You think any exclusivity will be allowed when they are making a new shared universe like Star Wars? I repeat, Sony only got away with it because they had a leverage due to Spiderman movies, which Disney desperately wanted + Xbox One was minuscule last gen, to the point of irrelevance. If PS5 has even a decent (not even massive, just decent enough) install base, it's highly doubtful that the game will be exclusive. The only thing MS can blackmail Disney with is Windows PCs. You think MS will put in contract that Indiana Jones has to be exclusive or all Windows PCs and MS Offices in the Disney HQ will be shut down? Thats ridiculous. The Mouse these days is not the Mouse of PS2 era. PS2 era and before, the Mouse was really good, what with making movies like Lion King and all + having a bit of principals. It's super greedy right now and even more buy happy than MS. It owns around 50%+ of Hollywood and drives almost all competitors to the ground. A real Scrooge the Mouse is at the moment, unfortunately. What? MS is bigger than Disney in most, if not all, the financials parameters (profitability, revenue, market cap, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roun90 Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, Sach4life said: What? MS is bigger than Disney in most, if not all, the financials parameters (profitability, revenue, market cap, etc.) I guess I should have clarified. MS is not so rich that they can buy out Disney like they brought out Bethesda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sach4life Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, roun90 said: I guess I should have clarified. MS is not so rich that they can buy out Disney like they brought out Bethesda. True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roun90 Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, AnK said: I think Uncharted franchise is reason enough for Disney/Lucas to tap in the potential of giving Xbox fans an action adventure game to compete with it No one in their right mind would have thought that household name like Tomb Raider would try a stunt at exclusivity & leave the PS fans out,but they did it Reason is simple....being on PS makes you complete with something extra ordinary for sales/marketshare Being only on Xbox gives you an edge of being labelled the counter part of something extra ordinary (even when your product isn’t) Things like these have happened in the past Though yeah putting it only on Xbox & then straight away on GamesPass will benefit only M$ & no publisher,developer,license holder But I’m sure M$ is aggressively throwing money to make all that “work out” Thing is - overall Indiana Jones is a far bigger franchise than Uncharted ever will be. Only video game fans know Uncharted. Everyone, including video game fans, know Indiana Jones. I don't have much hopes for the Uncharted movie branch-out. In the grand scheme of things, all media combined - Uncharted will always be a copy or "Inspired By" Indiana Jones. Tomb Raider competes directly with Uncharted. Both are only video games. Indiana Jones does not. It's more than just video games. Disney is not in video game business. They don't care sh*t which console does good or bad. They don't need to promote Indiana Jones. They are making universes, with all media combined and revenue from each and every one. This video game is just merchandise for them, nothing more - just like EA's Star Wars. Overall, it's too early to call on exclusivity, simply because of this - Disney is making a universe, squeezing out every cent from it and does not care what a platform seller thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS Fan Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, roun90 said: MS is rich. But it's not Disney Level rich. Disney is making a universe with all the old IPs. There's a Star Wars Universe, Marvel Universe, Pixar Universe, old Disney movies Universe and now an Indiana Jones Universe as well. This includes future films (to be released 2022), further TV Shows, Toys and other merchandise as well. The video game is just a small part of that universe. You think any exclusivity will be allowed when they are making a new shared universe like Star Wars? I repeat, Sony only got away with it because they had a leverage due to Spiderman movies, which Disney desperately wanted + Xbox One was minuscule last gen, to the point of irrelevance. If PS5 has even a decent (not even massive, just decent enough) install base, it's highly doubtful that the game will be exclusive. The only thing MS can blackmail Disney with is Windows PCs. You think MS will put in contract that Indiana Jones has to be exclusive or all Windows PCs and MS Offices in the Disney HQ will be shut down? Thats ridiculous. The Mouse these days is not the Mouse of PS2 era. PS2 era and before, the Mouse was really good, what with making movies like Lion King and all + having a bit of principals. It's super greedy right now and even more buy happy than MS. It owns around 50%+ of Hollywood and drives almost all competitors to the ground. A real Scrooge the Mouse is at the moment, unfortunately. Lol No one saying MS can buyout Disney but they can definitely enter a deal of getting one of the games based on Lucas Arts film as exclusive for their platform or very least make it timed exclusive to their platform. KOTOR games were exclusive to Xbox and PC only. So there's history of Lucas games being exclusive to single console. Anything can happen with Indiana Jones, we just have to wait and watch Edited January 15, 2021 by WhiteWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sach4life Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, AnK said: I don’t think Movie/other media popularity affects the Sales/popularity of video games anymore The plethora of bad movie tie in’s in a specific era killed that buzz for gamers big time The average Joe gamers are also more than happy on their touchscreens & don’t really care about Hardware for Core & Hardcore The latest Avengers game is the biggest example the game has to be good & credibility of it’s own for ppl to invest time/money in it All superhero/action hero games just died a terrible death to the point where now the hardcore fans of the franchise don’t even bother It’s only the gamers who matter in gaming now Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roun90 Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) Well, what will be - will be. If it's exclusive, great. If it's not exclusive, also great. Just hope they make a good game and not mess it up. Though considering it's Machine Games and not OG Bethesda Softworks (Fallout 76 team), I have high hopes that it will be absolutely excellent. Edited January 15, 2021 by roun90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sach4life Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, adity said: I always enjoy seeing everyone turn into industry analysts over 5 second teasers. Funny thing is, no one even cared enough to post anything regarding whether this would be exclusive or not. It was only Zodak who kept bringing that sh*t up again and again to rile people up. So that later on, he can come up with amazing lines such as "Ponies are already crying" "Ponies are already begging" etc. It is sad how much of a MS employee and shill he acts all the freaking time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 33 minutes ago, adity said: I always enjoy seeing everyone turn into industry analysts over 5 second teasers. 7 pages of absolute garbage over announcement teaser. Can't wait to see when game is out and turn out good/bad. Will be ultimate shitshow as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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