Dragon Quest 12: The Flames Of Fate

[Heaven Angel]

 

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It is a teaser trailer of the latest work "Dragon Quest XII Selected Fate Flame" which is the 12th main part of the "Dragon Quest" series.

5/27 "Dragon Quest" 35th Anniversary Special Program

 

 

 

[NitroNeo]

Still haven't finished 11. It may seem linear but the amount of grinding you gotta do to level up. Makes the game pretty big.

The combat being command based doesn't help grind fast.

Like how yakuza went from action combat to comand based i wish DQ12 takes the reverse jump as well.

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[radicaldude]

Dafaq.

Japanese RPGs sometimes feel like college courseware. You are yet to finish the previous part and the sequel drops in! :S

[Aloy]

I heard they want to make this more "adult"...Dragon Quest 12: XXX lmao

[Guest]

DQ XI was awesome and been ~4 years now. Didn't feel that grindy (pretty standard grind in RPG) and combat worked well. 

[North]

Just now, Joe Cool said:

DQ XI was awesome and been ~4 years now. Didn't feel that grindy (pretty standard grind in RPG) and combat worked well. 

 

I've had DQ 11 on my shelf this entire quarantine and haven't played yet 

 

wondering if I should just sell and move on. this apex legends addiction has hit me hard. not even sure when I'll get to DQ11

[Sach4life]

2 hours ago, NitroNeo said:

Still haven't finished 11. It may seem linear but the amount of grinding you gotta do to level up. Makes the game pretty big.

The combat being command based doesn't help grind fast.

Like how yakuza went from action combat to comand based i wish DQ12 takes the reverse jump as well.

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Jeez, NEVER

[NitroNeo]

 
Jeez, NEVER

But you are fine when us action combat fans get their game converted into a menu driven click and scroll combat system

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[Guest]

Like a Dragon combat turned out super fun though. It isn't traditional turn based combat. 

[Sach4life]

4 minutes ago, NitroNeo said:

But you are fine when us action combat fans get their game converted into a menu driven click and scroll combat system

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Where did i say that? There are enough button mashing action rpgs out there. Please play those instead of asking one of the few remaining traditional turn based rpgs to become one

[CarbonCore]

Yakuza combat is terrible button masher followed by south Indian cinema styled finishers. We didn't lose much by going turn based.

[NitroNeo]

I played dragon quest builders series and that is the way to go
If you are gonna make a heavily popular A-RPG into turn based yawn then DQ can go the other way as well.

Don't bring that musou crap DQ heroes in this we all know it was a lame dynasty warriors inspired game and not a true action rpg.

I don't ask for a A-RPG because i hate turn based. But Dragon quest world is begging to be explored from a A-RPG style which will speed up grinding and intesify battles. To do fast flashy battles and then wonder around listing to amazing OSTs as you traverse the world that is the DQ of future. DQ builders showed it can be done.

Also It is akira toriyamas style after all so i can imagine dragon quest will be great in a fast combat style

If you aren't watching dragon quest adventures of dai anime then go watch it. Then picture this lame turn based combat with it. You will get bored. Combat with superpowers needs to be real time action driven.

Action combat is the future. Turn based and tap target need to be discarded ASAP from AAA games.

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[NitroNeo]

Yakuza combat is terrible button masher followed by south Indian cinema styled finishers. We didn't lose much by going turn based.

They don't have the budget i imagine to do something like batman arkham or shadows of mordor. But that combat is pretty fun as it doesn't take time and needless strategy to enjoy a game about mobster who would punch anyone to death and punish you for trying to use your brain for thinking.

In like a dragon you are face to face with people trying to kill you and if you imagine turn based cpmbat visually it will play out like

Villain - i wanna beat you to a pulp - presses attack

Hero - initiates a party battle

Hero - hey villain wait, chooses attack or defend or pass turn

Villain - looks at clock, dude i have places to be, people to pulp

Hero - defends looses mp

Villain - throws a hammer

Hero - defends again losses a chance to attack waits and enternity for a turn

This combat system needs to go seriously

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[Sach4life]

53 minutes ago, NitroNeo said:

They don't have the budget i imagine to do something like batman arkham or shadows of mordor. But that combat is pretty fun as it doesn't take time and needless strategy to enjoy a game about mobster who would punch anyone to death and punish you for trying to use your brain for thinking.

In like a dragon you are face to face with people trying to kill you and if you imagine turn based cpmbat visually it will play out like

Villain - i wanna beat you to a pulp - presses attack

Hero - initiates a party battle

Hero - hey villain wait, chooses attack or defend or pass turn

Villain - looks at clock, dude i have places to be, people to pulp

Hero - defends looses mp

Villain - throws a hammer

Hero - defends again losses a chance to attack waits and enternity for a turn

This combat system needs to go seriously

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Eeewww. Please not. If you want to play games with that combat, play that game. Let PEOPLE ENJOY FEW TURN BASED GAMES THAT ARE LEFT.

 

No one is forcing you to play this game. Not every game has to be for you. Let it go..

[NitroNeo]

 
Eeewww. Please not. If you want to play games with that combat, play that game. Let PEOPLE ENJOY FEW TURN BASED GAMES THAT ARE LEFT.
 
No one is forcing you to play this game. Not every game has to be for you. Let it go..

Yeah but some of us want to explore the dragon qiest world with fast paced action combat. Chibi dragon quest builders isn't enough.

Like i said action combat games are turning into turn based and you don't ewww that. But the games that deserve at least one action rpg you hate that idea.

It's regressive thinking like that will alienate alot of people from this amazing series minus the dull combat.

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[Sach4life]

2 minutes ago, NitroNeo said:

Yeah but some of us want to explore the dragon qiest world with fast paced action combat. Chibi dragon quest builders isn't enough.

Like i said action combat games are turning into turn based and you don't ewww that. But the games that deserve at least one action rpg you hate that idea.

It's regressive thinking like that will alienate alot of people from this amazing series minus the dull combat.

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Because I don't necessarily care about that series. Is that too hard to understand? Do I need to go in every game thread and comment on what is happening in it?

 

Then don't play this game. Play others which has combat to your liking. I couldn't care less about people who find this combat dull. I love turn based combat and millions others love it as well. There are a lot of button mashing RPGs out there already.

[NitroNeo]

 
Because I don't necessarily care about that series. Is that too hard to understand? Do I need to go in every game thread and comment on what is happening in it?
 
Then don't play this game. Play others which has combat to your liking. I couldn't care less about people who find this combat dull. I love turn based combat and millions others love it as well. There are a lot of button mashing RPGs out there already.

Lots of other button mashing A-RPGs aren't Dragon Quest !

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[Sach4life]

Lots of other button mashing A-RPGs aren't Dragon Quest !

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Then suck it up and play DQ as it is. I failt to see what exactly are you arguing here and why

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[NitroNeo]

Then suck it up and play DQ as it is. I failt to see what exactly are you arguing here and why

 

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It's not an argument. It's a statement that dragon quest deserves a game with slow steady exploration like we have in Mainline DQ and action combat which will reduce the time it takes to grind levels.

 

I won't be able to meet the same monsters of the DQ world in any other games. For us people who are alienated by it's turn based combat. We deserve a Mainline DQ game that is A-RPG.

 

Again Dragon quest heroes doesn't count as it's a POS musou game.

 

No other japanese rpg can be DQ. The OSTs the monsters the hero v/s mao lore isn't there in any of the other games.

 

No game does monsters as awesome as Dragon quest.

 

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[Sach4life]

17 minutes ago, NitroNeo said:

It's not an argument. It's a statement that dragon quest deserves a game with slow steady exploration like we have in Mainline DQ and action combat which will reduce the time it takes to grind levels.

 

I won't be able to meet the same monsters of the DQ world in any other games. For us people who are alienated by it's turn based combat. We deserve a Mainline DQ game that is A-RPG.

 

Again Dragon quest heroes doesn't count as it's a POS musou game.

 

No other japanese rpg can be DQ. The OSTs the monsters the hero v/s mao lore isn't there in any of the other games.

 

No game does monsters as awesome as Dragon quest.

 

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Lol, no. No one deserves anything and no one is entitled to anything. As I said, if you really want to explore the game and its world so much, play it. If you hate turn based combat so much, move on. I, for one, would stop playing this series if it also goes towards garbage A-RPG route like most other JRPGs have gone.