The Cricket Thread

[AtheK]

 

It's a slap on selectors face to continue with SKY match after match when he was the weakest in the lineup and he failed yet again when it mattered.

Siraj should have been dropped to play Ashwin today, but same old life long thought why change a winning combination overlooking horses for courses, look at Australia dropping stoinis when needed, sad to end up at losing side but Australia are worthy winners, congratulations to them.

[Takeda]

2 hours ago, Vamos said:

 

I hope BCCI learns their lesson. This is why you should never ignore your legacy grounds. 
 

 

 

 

More and more indian ex cricketers are saying pitch was not made keeping Indian team strength. It was heavily dependent on toss.

 

So maybe we should have gone with legacy pitches 

[Takeda]

1 hour ago, AtheK said:

 

It's a slap on selectors face to continue with SKY match after match when he was the weakest in the lineup and he failed yet again when it mattered.

Siraj should have been dropped to play Ashwin today, but same old life long thought why change a winning combination overlooking horses for courses, look at Australia dropping stoinis when needed, sad to end up at losing side but Australia are worthy winners, congratulations to them.

Get rid of Sky. Siraj did well overall, so i will kerp him but definitely get SKY out

 

 

 

 

This image tell you everything. We play good in Qualifying matches but bad at final Knockout games. 

 

 

We need to stop putting them on Pedestal unless they actually won a tournament. 

Edited November 19, 2023 by Kazarka

[dante77]

Rohit said he would have batted first, so toss didn't matter in this game. 

[Sach4life]

BC, subah se dil baitha huya hai

[Sach4life]

10 hours ago, Kazarka said:

I already unsubscribed to Star sports. Will not watch closing ceremony and all. Fk that. 

 

Complete boycott of indian cricket from me till they either win T20 WC or ODI WC.

 

 

 

Only positive thing to come out of the final

[Vamos]

8 hours ago, AnK said:

Here in South Asian region cricket is hailed as godly devotion.

Most of the times players are under immense pressure to perform.

 

World Cup final brings a lot of pressure with it.

And the worst part is - where ever India plays, we make it our home ground. 
Stadiums in Australia and England are like our 2nd home. 
 

Do we ever get to play in hostile conditions? 

[Kirti]

2 hours ago, Sach4life said:

BC, subah se dil baitha huya hai

Same here, kuch karne ka mann nahi kar raha hai sala BC.

[b!T]

I have talked about this in another thread but I don't follow cricket much. Last proper cricket tournament I followed was 2003 WC. The defeat was so crushing that it made me quit watching cricket for 20 years. With all the hype this time, I thought I would give it a go but I guess history has to repeat itself  At least this Australian team is much more likeable. But I am not giving up on cricket this time. Had a lovely time getting together friends and family and watching matches.

[nitinveer]

6 hours ago, dante77 said:

Rohit said he would have batted first, so toss didn't matter in this game. 

I don't think that was a genuine response. He even paused for a second before gathering his words. 

 

[nitinveer]

The pitch was not good and one sided, the way it slowed down in the afternoon compared to evening was so drastic. 

All WC matches in this venue are won while chasing except England match and they too could have won if batted smartly. They lost only by 30 runs with still overs left. 

 

Every team has struggled to bat well in the afternoon and this was when winter was just starting and now temperatures have settled down, it is even more evident that toss was big factor. 

 

BCCI/ICC money obsession will never help. Teams should be given fair chance to complete by providing similar conditions and if this venue was to host the match, we should have a day match instead of day and night. But nothing will change anyways!  

[harsh1387]

12 hours ago, Kazarka said:

Next is in SA. India not winning WC in those conditions. Home condition is the place they had some chance..

Didn't we win t20 world cup in SA. Issue isn't country anymore. It's the winning finals mentality.

 

Should do complete overhaul of ODI team. No t20. Only that format specialists who don't have the baggage of yesteryears.

[harsh1387]

I think most of us will agree we would have won if we were facing SA in finals. Just because SA chokes better than us when it matters. Aussies are just built different. The way they raise their game to Elite level when it matters most is inspiring and worthy to look into..

 

Look at their players. Head isn't a cricket superstar but like Gambhir he played the knock which mattered. Labs isn't a good white ball player but played perfect fiddle to heads attacking cricket. Even Smith wasn't out if he had taken the review. Their fielding was amazingly good. They gave just 12 extras in 50 overs. Compare all that to our side. Lackluster fielding and no evident game plan. They had perfect field settings and Bowling plans for everyone.

 

Our Coach was sleeping when it was time to make plans. Playing deadweight like SKY and benching Ashwin for Siraj knowing fully well how good Ashwin has been against Aussies and especially left handers. We needed 10 wickets and Rohit had no slips in position once score crossed 100. Look at KL not even bothering to rotate strike while batting and playing dots like a man possessed not to hit a boundary. You were 3 down, not 7 down to shut off attack completely. No attacking mindset in batting and Bowling. No planning. Can't win finals like that. 

 

Why is Jaddu in team. I haven't seen him bat well when needed in a long time. Doesn't win matches with bowling. His fielding has been great but that alone shouldn't warrant a permanent place. Axar has been much better player than him in last 2 years and unfortunate he was injured. 

 

But is bcci bothered. Nope.

So, I ain't bothered too.

ODI are gonna be dead anyways. No one I know watches them outside of World cups and with this defeat no one will bother.

I look forward to t20 which gives entertainment in short bursts and the real cricket which is Tests between good teams. 

 

Can't wait for Pant to come back in the side. We need more people like him who have the strong attacking winning mentality like Aussies. KL isn't mentally strong and it was evident yesterday.

[Takeda]

1 hour ago, harsh1387 said:

Didn't we win t20 world cup in SA. Issue isn't country anymore. It's the winning finals mentality.

 

Should do complete overhaul of ODI team. No t20. Only that format specialists who don't have the baggage of yesteryears.

In last 10 years we havnt won anything. 

 

 

 

And im talking about ODI. I really dont take t20 WC seriously. ODI WC is real deal.

[Takeda]

29 minutes ago, harsh1387 said:

I think most of us will agree we would have won if we were facing SA in finals. Just because SA chokes better than us when it matters. Aussies are just built different. The way they raise their game to Elite level when it matters most is inspiring and worthy to look into..

 

Look at their players. Head isn't a cricket superstar but like Gambhir he played the knock which mattered. Labs isn't a good white ball player but played perfect fiddle to heads attacking cricket. Even Smith wasn't out if he had taken the review. Their fielding was amazingly good. They gave just 12 extras in 50 overs. Compare all that to our side. Lackluster fielding and no evident game plan. They had perfect field settings and Bowling plans for everyone.

 

Our Coach was sleeping when it was time to make plans. Playing deadweight like SKY and benching Ashwin for Siraj knowing fully well how good Ashwin has been against Aussies and especially left handers. We needed 10 wickets and Rohit had no slips in position once score crossed 100. Look at KL not even bothering to rotate strike while batting and playing dots like a man possessed not to hit a boundary. You were 3 down, not 7 down to shut off attack completely. No attacking mindset in batting and Bowling. No planning. Can't win finals like that. 

 

Why is Jaddu in team. I haven't seen him bat well when needed in a long time. Doesn't win matches with bowling. His fielding has been great but that alone shouldn't warrant a permanent place. Axar has been much better player than him in last 2 years and unfortunate he was injured. 

 

But is bcci bothered. Nope.

So, I ain't bothered too.

ODI are gonna be dead anyways. No one I know watches them outside of World cups and with this defeat no one will bother.

I look forward to t20 which gives entertainment in short bursts and the real cricket which is Tests between good teams. 

 

Can't wait for Pant to come back in the side. We need more people like him who have the strong attacking winning mentality like Aussies. KL isn't mentally strong and it was evident yesterday.

They should have made a flat flast batting pitch. Indian batting shines on such pitches, they clearly struggle on slow pitch looks like against good bowling lineup. 

 

Ahemdabad pitch was garbage for batters at the start of innings and then got better for batters in 2nd iinnings. Rohit clearly failed to judge the pitch properly. 

 

That's what every ex cricketer saying on news.

[rushab oswal]

We as fans instead of finding actual faults keep goint after Pitches, crowd , toss.

Overcast weather tha in 2019 dont know what excuses we had for other knockout matches. How much crowd support australia had? ZLICH - ZERO ! The fact is we went on defensive yet again (Something we did not do this worldcup). Credits to australia came with a plan, esp that plan to surya was so on point.

Anyway the Positives This world Cup-

1) Fantastic team atomsphere , best i have ever seen

2) Played agressive cricket till the final hope we continue

3) Bowling unit was really really good , i enjoyed watching them

4) The medal thing was nice enjoyed that too

Things we need to change

1) Nee more all rounders - australia used 7 bowlers.

2) Keep the attack mode on - look at head was beaten an entire over of bumrah still went on to hit next over 

3) Teach our batters to bowl and esp our bowlers to bat. Our bowlers cant even rotate strikes that needs to change.

 

All in all happy with the performance , but this cup was ours 

[Vamos]

1 minute ago, rushab oswal said:

We as fans instead of finding actual faults keep goint after Pitches, crowd , toss.

I don’t think anyone is blaming the pitch. 
 

They are blaming the BCCI for failing to take home advantage while selecting the finals venue. 
It’s as simple as that. 

As much as we’d like to deny it, it played a big role in the final. 
 

When was the last time India lost a CWC match at Mumbai/Bangalore/Chennai/Eden 

[AtheK]

scarp the ODI WC altogether, increase more teams for T20I worldcup, pump some money in other countries, elevate teams like Netherlands and Afghanistan. Till around 80% of this world cup hardly anyone cared that a WC is happening, it's just that India lit up the scene with amazing performances that people took notice in the end phase. This is a dying format. Stadiums were mainly 50-60% full, some india matches there were lot of empty seats. Compare it to IPL where stadium is jam packed before a ball is bowled.

 

Look at FIFA WC 48 countries next time, look at Cricket, 10 Countries, that don't constitute a world, need to increase the popularity of game or this will just be a 4-5 team battle. None of the asian team except India could make it to knockout, a lot of introspection needs to be done by ICC to what next. 

[rushab oswal]

13 minutes ago, Vamos said:

I don’t think anyone is blaming the pitch. 
 

They are blaming the BCCI for failing to take home advantage while selecting the finals venue. 
It’s as simple as that. 

As much as we’d like to deny it, it played a big role in the final. 
 

When was the last time India lost a CWC match at Mumbai/Bangalore/Chennai/Eden 

Im not denying that. But we also have lost at other venues too. Im saying something is amiss in the team when it comes to big stage matches, we need to fix that rather than going after something we can't control(we aren't always going to be host).

 

14 minutes ago, AtheK said:

scarp the ODI WC altogether, increase more teams for T20I worldcup, pump some money in other countries, elevate teams like Netherlands and Afghanistan. Till around 80% of this world cup hardly anyone cared that a WC is happening, it's just that India lit up the scene with amazing performances that people took notice in the end phase. This is a dying format. Stadiums were mainly 50-60% full, some india matches there were lot of empty seats. Compare it to IPL where stadium is jam packed before a ball is bowled.

 

Look at FIFA WC 48 countries next time, look at Cricket, 10 Countries, that don't constitute a world, need to increase the popularity of game or this will just be a 4-5 team battle. None of the asian team except India could make it to knockout, a lot of introspection needs to be done by ICC to what next. 

Make it 40 overs, more bowler friendly. Best of both sides. Also yes cricket needs to get out of this same 10 teams , out of which only 6 are always at the top. 

[hazard12345]

So angry with rohit yesterday, we were 80/1 after 10, you had Kohli on the other end. They had to play 1 final time a long innings together. 

 

Gill Iyer Sky were not meant to play more than 10 overs in WCF