The Cricket Thread

[b!T]

Surya shouldn't be called SKY anymore. The only relation he had with sky was looking at it while walking back after getting out with a score < 20. Smh.

[GunnerY2J]

Agree 50-50 format should be scrapped, day night matches also are imbalanced in one days.

 

Test and 20-20.

Although, 20-20 doesn't excite me.

Tests have become lively with bowling friendly wickets.

Ashes and india Australia and India England test series were the best matches watched in 15 plus years across all formats.

[Takeda]

47 minutes ago, hazard12345 said:

So angry with rohit yesterday, we were 80/1 after 10, you had Kohli on the other end. They had to play 1 final time a long innings together. 

 

Gill Iyer Sky were not meant to play more than 10 overs in WCF

Same. I blame Rohit sloppy shot for our loss. When run rate was healthy, he should have played sensible cricket for 15 to 20 overs. 

Edited November 20, 2023 by Kazarka

[Takeda]

7 minutes ago, GunnerY2J said:

Agree 50-50 format should be scrapped, day night matches also are imbalanced in one days.

 

Test and 20-20.

Although, 20-20 doesn't excite me.

Tests have become lively with bowling friendly wickets.

Ashes and india Australia and India England test series were the best matches watched in 15 plus years across all formats.

Yeah i hate that pitch changes so drastically after 1st innings. Day and night cricket, fking sucks. Start in morning, finish it by evening.

[TAZ]

I feel from now on, we need 2 teams, totally separate. One for T20’s only with different coaches, support staff & players. Other ODI + Test again different coach, staff and again totally different players from t20 team. If one team goes overseas it takes 2-3 months, and you end up playing 3 t20’s, rather than that have 2 teams touring different countries that way workload can be reduced and play more format oriented games.

 

This team is perfect for another 2 years for odi + test. Build totally new T20 Young team and nurture them for future. We select ipl players then give them 3 matches, then bench them, how can you expect them to win you matches when they play 3 games in 6 months. we need youngsters team for T20 and play at least 20 games globally touring UK, Australia, NZ, SA each year And avoid playing SL every 6 months. 

[Takeda]

31 minutes ago, b!T said:

Surya shouldn't be called SKY anymore. The only relation he had with sky was looking at it while walking back after getting out with a score < 20. Smh.

SKY cant be blame entirely, he didn't get many batting opportunities this WC as our top and middle order was doing fantastic job.

 

Rahul Dravid during PC said pitch became really slow and ball was not coming on to bat after 30 overs In 1st innings. Sky and Rahul were struggling to rotate strike and keep runs going. Rahul made 62 in 110 balls, that should tell you everything. 

 

 

[harsh1387]

5 minutes ago, Kazarka said:

SKY cant be blame entirely, he didn't get many batting opportunities this WC as our top and middle order was doing fantastic job.

 

Rahul Dravid during PC said pitch became really slow and ball was not coming on to bat after 30 overs In 1st innings. Sky and Rahul were struggling to rotate strike and keep runs going. Rahul made 62 in 110 balls, that should tell you everything. 

 

 

What rubbish by Dravid.

Kohli was taking singles easily. KL didn't even try to take singles let alone hit boundaries. Why didn't they send SKY and Jadeja up the order against Netherlands when they knew they didn't had much batting match practice. Was coach and captain sleeping? Did they cared more about winnings against Neds than preparing for semis and finals.

 

Why didn't the played Ishan and Ashwin against Neds to keep bench strength in groove. Why was sky in the team in first place. 3 ducks in a row. Ishan and even sanju Samson performing better than him in their opportunities but favoritism once again did the selection than merit. Why wasn't ashwin played on Ahmedabad slow pitch in place of Siraj who has done nothing great all world cup and is absolutely dead with the bat especially when hardik isn't there. These management guys only have excuses. Aussies had the execution so they won. Simple.

[rushab oswal]

10 minutes ago, harsh1387 said:

Aussies had the execution so they won. Simple.

I think thats sums everything up. Rest everything is If's and But's . sad thing is we dont learn from our mistakes . hope we do this time.

[Takeda]

21 minutes ago, harsh1387 said:

What rubbish by Dravid.

Kohli was taking singles easily. KL didn't even try to take singles let alone hit boundaries. Why didn't they send SKY and Jadeja up the order against Netherlands when they knew they didn't had much batting match practice. Was coach and captain sleeping? Did they cared more about winnings against Neds than preparing for semis and finals.

 

Why didn't the played Ishan and Ashwin against Neds to keep bench strength in groove. Why was sky in the team in first place. 3 ducks in a row. Ishan and even sanju Samson performing better than him in their opportunities but favoritism once again did the selection than merit. Why wasn't ashwin played on Ahmedabad slow pitch in place of Siraj who has done nothing great all world cup and is absolutely dead with the bat especially when hardik isn't there. These management guys only have excuses. Aussies had the execution so they won. Simple.

Hardik is all rounder right? They should have given him match practice and Ashwin should have played instead of SKY. It sucks they didn't test bench against Netherlands. 

 

 

Rohit said he wanted to keep same team as they were winning all matches,  maybe that's why he didn't change team much. 

[Takeda]

14 minutes ago, rushab oswal said:

I think thats sums everything up. Rest everything is If's and But's . sad thing is we dont learn from our mistakes . hope we do this time.

 

Bottomline if Australian is in finals of any ICC tournament, we not winning. End of the story. Australian team becomes something else in Finals. Fking unstoppable man. They win ICC tournaments so regularly, its insane. Indian team gets more pay and best facilities money can buy and they still struggle against Australia. 

Edited November 20, 2023 by Kazarka

[Takeda]

51 minutes ago, TAZ said:

I feel from now on, we need 2 teams, totally separate. One for T20’s only with different coaches, support staff & players. Other ODI + Test again different coach, staff and again totally different players from t20 team. If one team goes overseas it takes 2-3 months, and you end up playing 3 t20’s, rather than that have 2 teams touring different countries that way workload can be reduced and play more format oriented games.

 

This team is perfect for another 2 years for odi + test. Build totally new T20 Young team and nurture them for future. We select ipl players then give them 3 matches, then bench them, how can you expect them to win you matches when they play 3 games in 6 months. we need youngsters team for T20 and play at least 20 games globally touring UK, Australia, NZ, SA each year And avoid playing SL every 6 months. 

England got that setup and its not helping them much. 

[Takeda]

Ricky Ponting, Michael Vaughan and Nasser Hussain call out India for tactical pitch ‘backfire’

 

 

India’s controversial pitch manipulation may have blown up in the host team’s face.

 

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/icc-world-cup/ricky-ponting-other-greats-call-out-india-for-tactical-pitch-backfire/news-story/8ddccfe7bc279b98c8f0aff1e3f52e93

 

Australian media talking sh*t. 

 

[Takeda]

"Former England captain Michael Vaughan said of the Aussies: “Strategically they are a very clever team. They’ve clearly got a very clever think-tank. I don’t think they are a 320 side, they are a 280 side and preparing a pitch like this gave Australia a chance.

 

 

“They did exactly what Pat Cummins said they would, they’ve silenced the crowd. They’ve done it in great fashion. I don’t know anyone who thought the game would be done in 43 overs with Australia coasting to the target.”

 

 

Damn brutal. :/

Edited November 20, 2023 by Kazarka

[Vamos]

For all the big drama about biggest stadium in the world, the official attendance was less than MCG. 

 

 

 

[KnackChap]

44 minutes ago, Kazarka said:

Hardik is all rounder right? They should have given him match practice and Ashwin should have played instead of SKY. It sucks they didn't test bench against Netherlands. 

 

 

Rohit said he wanted to keep same team as they were winning all matches,  maybe that's why he didn't change team much. 

stop spamming ffs.

hardik is injured and out and not  because he’s not having match practice. Shows youre just spamming this thread for the sake of it. 
 

take some time out man
 

 

[harsh1387]

1 hour ago, rushab oswal said:

I think thats sums everything up. Rest everything is If's and But's . sad thing is we dont learn from our mistakes . hope we do this time.

What learning.

 

BCCI is busy counting IPL Money all year long. Rest of the time they are busy in politics. 

 

Selectors are idiotic as usual and select players only on basis of IPL for every format, even tests.

 

Coach and Captain will select team only on basis of favoritism and not on basis of form. Newcomers only warm benches even if they perform better than people getting selected.

 

Players earns in crores and least bothered to play domestic and iron out their flaws. They don't have time to play domestic and improving their game but have ample time to do ads all year long along with playing precious ipl for 2 months. 

 

This has been going on since way long and will continue. Only fans care who actually pay with their wallet and time to watch these guys and get disappointed again and again. 

 

Trust me. Rinse and repeat will go on.

[san_Assassin]

On 11/15/2023 at 5:57 PM, san_Assassin said:

ashwin should play in place of surya till hardik comes back

as I said earlier, shoonya kumar yadav never deserved to be in this ODI team.  even siraj was quite mediocre, only 1 good match he had and that was against SL. 

 

we were doing so well and were so close.  dil toot gaya yar 

[AtheK]

all this talks, India plays Australia for T20 series starting Thursday and stadiums will be full again, BCCI will count money and say now wait for T20 WC.

 

On top of that this is the condition of selectors that a series with Aus in 3 days from now and the team has yet not been announced. I understand 15 players are playing WC and are busy but what are selectros sleeping on, such sorry state sometimes.

 

Kohli and KL rahul should be kept out of T20 setup forever, ROhit ideally was also a candidate, but he has shown promise and with his leadership skills and unselfish game play I hope they retain him as captain for T20 and he gets one last chance to win a WC trophy next year.

[nitinveer]

1 hour ago, harsh1387 said:

What learning.

 

BCCI is busy counting IPL Money all year long. Rest of the time they are busy in politics. 

 

Selectors are idiotic as usual and select players only on basis of IPL for every format, even tests.

 

Coach and Captain will select team only on basis of favoritism and not on basis of form. Newcomers only warm benches even if they perform better than people getting selected.

 

Players earns in crores and least bothered to play domestic and iron out their flaws. They don't have time to play domestic and improving their game but have ample time to do ads all year long along with playing precious ipl for 2 months. 

 

This has been going on since way long and will continue. Only fans care who actually pay with their wallet and time to watch these guys and get disappointed again and again. 

 

Trust me. Rinse and repeat will go on.

 

That is bit harsh on selectors, coach and captain!

 

Most of the players were selected and given a run based on their performance in both domestic and their international exposure. Both Gill and Siraj were best ODI batsmen and bowler from 2022 onwards (as their numbers suggest). Iyer in the middle over is proven performer and very good against spin (which was critical for this WC) and has great numbers as a middle order batsman, the only doubt was on Rahul which he proved very well in Asia cup so it was fair call, Rohit and Kohli were automatic selections. Of course SKY was definitely a weak selection being trump card and never clicked entire year; he would have not played if Pandya was fit. If you followed what Dravid and Sharma kept saying last 6 months, they were very clear who the 13 players will be and literally 9 players were in full form by the time finals started except SKY and to some extent Siraj. 

Ishan has not done anything great against good teams except that Pakistan match in Asia cup and we had no middle order batsmen. As we have seen previously newcomers may not handle WC pressure as well as you think (case in point, Varun Chakrovarthy, Arshadeep Singh in both T20 WCs recently and Zaheer in 03 finals and even Gill yesterday where he has played  two IPL finals on the same ground and had stellar year in ODIs and this is his favourite ground.  

 

The main culprit of course is BCCI. Unlike how Stokes/Starc/Cummins decided to not play IPL and prioritise international cricket, our cricketers are forced to play even if they do not want to as BCCI as employer forces them. This was clearly evident this year when Sharma was asked about WTC finals within a week of IPL final and his response that franchises need to help players out (which they won't obviously once again for money). 

 

However nothing will change as you said unless BCCI changes the mentality of not only going after money and caring for Indian fans! 

 

[nitinveer]

10 minutes ago, AtheK said:

all this talks, India plays Australia for T20 series starting Thursday and stadiums will be full again, BCCI will count money and say now wait for T20 WC.

 

On top of that this is the condition of selectors that a series with Aus in 3 days from now and the team has yet not been announced. I understand 15 players are playing WC and are busy but what are selectros sleeping on, such sorry state sometimes.

 

Kohli and KL rahul should be kept out of T20 setup forever, ROhit ideally was also a candidate, but he has shown promise and with his leadership skills and unselfish game play I hope they retain him as captain for T20 and he gets one last chance to win a WC trophy next year.

So true! I hope selectors are clear now whom to select for T20s. Both KL & Kohli has to go and even if Sharma however T20 WC is only 6 months away so there is no point to change the captain if he continues to play like he did in this WC. I hope they select youngsters and stick with them!