Felix the cat Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 35 minutes ago, Bauji said: What happened? Same old statement....baap baap hota hai..bla bla bla? Ha bhai, these news channels became more sadak chaap than real SC. I mean why its needed, those days of shahid afridi, akhtar, bhajji, gautam gambhir are long gone. There is hardly any bad boys on either side. The boys on both sides are descent. That ind-vs-pak sporting rivalry is still there but there's respect also between the players. I still remember the day we loose to pak in t20wc in 21, both sides were friendly. Wo log jersey and bats exchange kr hai, aur ye media and entertainment industry wale abhi bhi wahi fati hui been bajane me lage hue hai. The only bad boys left are in media and audiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hope Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Vamos said: This age old argument is just stupid and flawed. All you remember is Akram, Mcgrath, Warne but forget the many average bowlers he also faced. The current day bowlers have better fitness levels, access to more tech and analytics in the sport to create better strategies against players. Same with fielding too. Modern day fielders have improved their fitness and it's harder to sneak singles and twos now than in Sachin's era. Just because more centuries are scored these days doesn't make it easier. It just indicates the player's adaptability in chasing 300+ scores more often. And there's no guarentee of winning even after scoring a 100. Wrong bro. Better fitness levels and tech is useless when you dont have craft and that edge factor in your bowling. Everything is easier for the batsmen now. Hardly any good bowlers. Sachin has faced holding,ambrose to start with and ended with Steyn. Logic of average bowlers makes hardly any impact. Kohli has faced average bowlers 95% of the time in his career. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix the cat Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 (edited) 3 minutes ago, hope said: Wrong bro. Better fitness levels and tech is useless when you dont have craft and that edge factor in your bowling. Everything is easier for the batsmen now. Hardly any good bowlers. Sachin has faced holding,ambrose to start with and ended with Steyn. Logic of average bowlers makes hardly any impact. Kohli has faced average bowlers 95% of the time in his career. And also look at the degrading state of teams like sri lanka, west indies, and Zimbabwe. Its just not fair to expect current eras bowlers to perform like old legends, when ICC has taken every advantage from them. Edited February 24 by Felix the cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zod Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, Felix the cat said: Ha bhai, these news channels became more sadak chaap than real SC. I mean why its needed, those days of shahid afridi, akhtar, bhajji, gautam gambhir are long gone. There is hardly any bad boys on either side. The boys on both sides are descent. That ind-vs-pak sporting rivalry is still there but there's respect also between the players. I still remember the day we loose to pak in t20wc in 21, both sides were friendly. Wo log jersey and bats exchange kr hai, aur ye media and entertainment industry wale abhi bhi wahi fati hui been bajane me lage hue hai. The only bad boys left are in media and audiences. Media is garbage but I support roasting of Pakistan players. I love way Arnab insults them on his show lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zod Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Felix the cat said: And also look at the degrading state of teams like sri lanka, west indies, and Zimbabwe. Bangladesh players can hit century against Pakistani bowlers today. They used to piss their pants against Wasim, Akhtar n all. USA team full of Patels and Punjabis playing international cricket for first time smashed Pakistani bowlers in T20 WC. This proves how bad bowling is today of teams like Pakistan, Sri lanka, west indies n all. Edited February 24 by Zod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix the cat Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 54 minutes ago, Zod said: I agree with Akhtar. He exposing his own bowlers lol What akhtar said is the summary of everything that has changed and what has been taken from the bowlers. With current rules it is impossible to create bowlers like those legends, its also unfair to expect that level of performance from current bowlers with these rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zod Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Felix the cat said: What akhtar said is the summary of everything that has changed and what has been taken from the bowlers. With current rules it is impossible to create bowlers like those legends, its also unfair to expect that level of performance from current bowlers with these rules. Well today's Australian bowlers and Indian bowlers are quite good, not as good as Sachin and Gavaskar era ones but they still good. So its possible to create good bowlers even under current rules. Pakistani bowlers just suck and politics inside PCB destroyed Pakistani cricket imo. Same politics destroyed West Indies, sri lanka and many other cricketing nations. Also Today's bowling of India is better than bowling lineup of Sachin era Indian bowlers. Bumrah, Shami better bowlers than Javagal Srinath, Zahir and Irfan khan imo. Edited February 24 by Zod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamos Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, hope said: Wrong bro. Better fitness levels and tech is useless when you dont have craft and that edge factor in your bowling. Everything is easier for the batsmen now. Hardly any good bowlers. Sachin has faced holding,ambrose to start with and ended with Steyn. Logic of average bowlers makes hardly any impact. Kohli has faced average bowlers 95% of the time in his career. If scoring is so easy peasy now, then why isn’t everyone scoring 100s like Kohli and why isn’t everyone reaching milestones like he does? And you believe that bowlers and skills in bowling have not evolved in the last 20-30 years? Bowlers have only gotten better. If you asked the hypothetical Akram or Warne or Lee to play in today’s conditions, they would also concede more runs. Maybe you are feeling old and unable to come out of how cricket was played back in the day. You are weighing everything on nostalgia. Edited February 24 by Vamos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix the cat Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 45 minutes ago, Zod said: Well today's Australian bowlers and Indian bowlers are quite good, not as good as Sachin and Gavaskar era ones but they still good. So its possible to create good bowlers even under current rules. Pakistani bowlers just suck and politics inside PCB destroyed Pakistani cricket imo. Same politics destroyed West Indies, sri lanka and many other cricketing nations. Also Today's bowling of India is better than bowling lineup of Sachin era Indian bowlers. Bumrah, Shami better bowlers than Javagal Srinath, Zahir and Irfan khan imo. Same dirty politics is also the reason why funds are not being allocated correctly by ICC to diff cricket boards and to the one where cricket can grow better if there is proper flow of funds. India (majorly), Eng, and Australia getting all the funding. Im not saying that ICC was good before, actually icc management was never good. It was used by Eng and Australia before and now its being dictated by India. I think India dont want more nations in cricket, they trying to limit the competition on international level, its simple, the more frequent india plays the semis and finals of ICC tournament the more profit it will garner, bht if cricket grows in other oart of the world who knows what will be the odds for india reaching semis and finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamos Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Big Boss said: Sachin>>>>Kohli+Sharma+Gill, and I am not even a Sachin fan. But facts are facts. Yes, and no one says otherwise. The only thing I’m saying is - Kohli’s stats and milestones are in no way less valuable than Sachin’s. There is no need to scrutinise Kohli for something he has no control over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauji Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Felix the cat said: Ha bhai, these news channels became more sadak chaap than real SC. I mean why its needed, those days of shahid afridi, akhtar, bhajji, gautam gambhir are long gone. There is hardly any bad boys on either side. The boys on both sides are descent. That ind-vs-pak sporting rivalry is still there but there's respect also between the players. I still remember the day we loose to pak in t20wc in 21, both sides were friendly. Wo log jersey and bats exchange kr hai, aur ye media and entertainment industry wale abhi bhi wahi fati hui been bajane me lage hue hai. The only bad boys left are in media and audiences. Ya, not just with cricket but everything these news channels report on is usually crap, click bait stuff. Shudnt even call themselves "news" channels. When Abrar's spell ended Kohli went to him and praised his bowling straight away. Kohli...of all people. And the usual mutual respect all of a sudden because of IPL isnt applicable here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix the cat Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bauji said: Ya, not just with cricket but everything these news channels report on is usually crap, click bait stuff. Shudnt even call themselves "news" channels. When Abrar's spell ended Kohli went to him and praised his bowling straight away. Kohli...of all people. And the usual mutual respect all of a sudden because of IPL isnt applicable here. Have you seen after prime-time shows, after 10pm every news channel goes nuts, they report any random a*s news from pak, with video clips of some paid youngster having mic in his hand doing QnA on pak street. I observed that those reporter' mic usually dosnt have any logo of any news agencies, I wonder if anyone in pak even get to watch those clips. I mean are they selling these reporting bits directly to indian news media to telecast here, bcs if those videos get telecast in pak than its very unlikely that those reporters wouldn't get lynched. Edited February 24 by Felix the cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hope Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 2 hours ago, Vamos said: If scoring is so easy peasy now, then why isn’t everyone scoring 100s like Kohli and why isn’t everyone reaching milestones like he does? And you believe that bowlers and skills in bowling have not evolved in the last 20-30 years? Bowlers have only gotten better. If you asked the hypothetical Akram or Warne or Lee to play in today’s conditions, they would also concede more runs. Maybe you are feeling old and unable to come out of how cricket was played back in the day. You are weighing everything on nostalgia. The debate is Sachin vs Kohli not if kohli is good or not. He is obviously good and better than most in the current lot. Sachin is light years ahead of Kohli be it batting or handling pressure. Hypothetical Akram or Donald would kill todays batsmen. See how difficult it is to play Bumrah... a marquee bowler. Your so called t20 batters would crumble ahead of Warne and Muralitharan. Maybe you are too dismissive of the cricket which was played back then which was far more competitive and tough . Did you know Sachin tendulkar`s idol? It is Mr. Sunil Gavaskar who played without Helmet against Marshall and Thompson and is considered all time greats. Kohli is inferior as a batter forget Sachin or Gavaskar but below Dravid as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zod Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 It sucks Afghanistan not in same group as Pakistan. Afghans play crazy good when they go against Pakistan lol. Last year's Afghanistan vs Pakistan WC match was epic lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zod Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, hope said: The debate is Sachin vs Kohli not if kohli is good or not. He is obviously good and better than most in the current lot. Sachin is light years ahead of Kohli be it batting or handling pressure. Hypothetical Akram or Donald would kill todays batsmen. See how difficult it is to play Bumrah... a marquee bowler. Your so called t20 batters would crumble ahead of Warne and Muralitharan. Maybe you are too dismissive of the cricket which was played back then which was far more competitive and tough . Did you know Sachin tendulkar`s idol? It is Mr. Sunil Gavaskar who played without Helmet against Marshall and Thompson and is considered all time greats. Kohli is inferior as a batter forget Sachin or Gavaskar but below Dravid as well. Yup, Gavaskar had 14 centuries against most dangerous bowling lineup of that era. Show one bowler today as lethal as these W.I bowlers? Edited February 24 by Zod 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauji Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 5 hours ago, Felix the cat said: Have you seen after prime-time shows, after 10pm every news channel goes nuts, they report any random a*s news from pak, with video clips of some paid youngster having mic in his hand doing QnA on pak street. Nopes. Guess there is audience for anything & everything these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hope Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 https://x.com/theprayagtiwari/status/1893914175392403652?t=SO6KGxiQ4-Vpju9uK85B5g&s=19 Hilarious stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerY2J Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 13 minutes ago, hope said: https://x.com/theprayagtiwari/status/1893914175392403652?t=SO6KGxiQ4-Vpju9uK85B5g&s=19 Hilarious stuff Calling an international sportsperson pandya chapri on national news is disrespectful. Other than that hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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