Mr. Comingle Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 (edited) 2 minutes ago, PhantomShade said: They can't keep it up forever, like even Jio started like free for one year? then the data packs were cheap for what they were offering, and now the prices have been hiked. Nintendo is playing it's own game and Sony is now comfortable with putting it's games on PC( probably other platforms too if it made sense financially ), wouldn't take long for the C-Levels over there to have a mindset change and switch to a "software only" business model like other companies in the past, because hardware doesn't make ( enough ) money apparently. Nothing of value would be lost tbh. You're grossly mistaken if you think any of the big 3 are in the business of selling hardware. Edited February 5 by Mr. Comingle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomShade Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Just now, Mr. Comingle said: You're grossly mistaken if you think any of the big 3 are in the business of selling hardware. Yes ikr they sell the consoles at a loss and make money off the paid multiplayer( now ) and earlier by whatever licensing fee they charge for putting games on their platform. Then again even Steam charges the 30% cut for putting a game on steam store, and they don't have any hardware overhead to get that. Sony will probably become a game publisher like SEGA, Nintendo plays it's own game and doesn't "compete" with the other two in the first place, and MS is already big 3rd party games publisher now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggr happy ss Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 2 hours ago, radicaldude said: Knew it Spartacus would be a shitty service . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Comingle Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 2 hours ago, PhantomShade said: Yes ikr they sell the consoles at a loss and make money off the paid multiplayer( now ) and earlier by whatever licensing fee they charge for putting games on their platform. Then again even Steam charges the 30% cut for putting a game on steam store, and they don't have any hardware overhead to get that. Sony will probably become a game publisher like SEGA, Nintendo plays it's own game and doesn't "compete" with the other two in the first place, and MS is already big 3rd party games publisher now. Steam also doesn't have a walled garden on which no one else can well on. Your comments are somewhat out of touch especially at a time when PC gaming has priced itself out of the reach of vast majority of regular people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 14 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said: PC gaming has priced itself out of the reach of vast majority of regular people. If Mac was big on gaming, the problem would've been solved. Apple make their own chips and can keep the market less fragmented. But nVidia being at helm for serious GPUs, PC gaming could never be affordable for common folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomShade Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 26 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said: Steam also doesn't have a walled garden on which no one else can well on. Your comments are somewhat out of touch especially at a time when PC gaming has priced itself out of the reach of vast majority of regular people. Arre that's because of the chip shortage + miners , even console supplies are affected, like you never see PS5SeriesX available to buy anywhere at MRP without those "pre-order" type muhurats they come up with. Otherwise it's best time to be PC gamer, you have exclusives from both teams on PC, because of MS buying Bethesda and Acti you will probably get those titles on GP also, plus there is Epic game store and their discounts. 9 minutes ago, Right said: If Mac was big on gaming, the problem would've been solved. Apple make their own chips and can keep the market less fragmented. But nVidia being at helm for serious GPUs, PC gaming could never be affordable for common folks. They don't have the fabs, same as Nvidia or AMD( technically, GlobalFoundries used to be AMD owned long ago ). Nvidia may be greedy but the current insane prices are not their fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Comingle Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 10 minutes ago, Right said: If Mac was big on gaming, the problem would've been solved. Apple make their own chips and can keep the market less fragmented. But nVidia being at helm for serious GPUs, PC gaming could never be affordable for common folks. Intel could potentially solve it considering they're using a different type of chip from AMD and Nvidia (don't know the exact term but that's the gist of it as per Linus). Since they're using unused capacity and manufacturing mid range chips it could potentially benefit the market. Other than that, the MSRP is crazy enough and then scalping on top of it is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Comingle Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 (edited) 6 minutes ago, PhantomShade said: Arre that's because of the chip shortage + miners , even console supplies are affected, like you never see PS5SeriesX available to buy anywhere at MRP without those "pre-order" type muhurats they come up with. Otherwise it's best time to be PC gamer, you have exclusives from both teams on PC, because of MS buying Bethesda and Acti you will probably get those titles on GP also, plus there is Epic game store and their discounts. Even the MSRP is bullshit. Constant price creep even after accounting for inflation. And the supply side problem is not going to solved anytime soon. It has existed for what half a decade now? Bitcoin kameenapanti isn't dying in the next 5 years either. PS5 and XSX supply has been far better even in all this supply chain bullshit. You know why? The interests of the hardware maker are reliant upon their hardware reaching maximum people. This is not the case with PC component manufacturers who will take every opportunity to extract every single penny out of your a*s for the hardware. Now that Nvidia, AMD, etc have seen people are willing to pay crazy sh*t for hardware, the prices are never going down. If you see right now on ivg, pretty much everyone who wanted a ps5 has it and I'd say 90% have paid only MRP for it. Edited February 5 by Mr. Comingle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 45 minutes ago, PhantomShade said: They don't have the fabs, same as Nvidia or AMD( technically, GlobalFoundries used to be AMD owned long ago ). Nvidia may be greedy but the current insane prices are not their fault Its their fault obviously. They fragment the market by creating low-mid-high segments, and do this every year, so top end card always tend at same or higher pricing, then slightly older card start disappearing from the shelves, because supply chain is maintained by OEMs so natural price decline never really kicks in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWolf Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2022-02-04-microsoft-boss-plays-down-activision-blizzard-buyout-being-blocked Satya not worried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 2 hours ago, WhiteWolf said: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2022-02-04-microsoft-boss-plays-down-activision-blizzard-buyout-being-blocked Satya not worried As opposed to sh*tting bricks in public :p MS had long run with Anti-trust sh*t. They got this....totally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 Spending $70b, yet couldn't make games exclusive. On a serious note, day 1 on GP would still hurt PS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsk_colossus Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 28 minutes ago, radicaldude said: Spending $70b, yet couldn't make games exclusive. On a serious note, day 1 on GP would still hurt PS. you can rest easy now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Comingle Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 (edited) Dat sweet sweet FTC clearance. Lol at the Corporate PR speak "To be clear, Microsoft will continue to make Call of Duty and other popular Activision Blizzard titles available on PlayStation through the term of any existing agreement with Activision. And we have committed to Sony that we will also make them available on PlayStation beyond the existing agreement and into the future so that Sony fans can continue to enjoy the games they love." Doesn't talk about franchises or future games, only titles. Could just mean currently available games will never be pulled from playstation. Assholes. Edited February 9 by Mr. Comingle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven Angel Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 Does anyone care about COD in here?.. How many are playing Vanguard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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triggr happy ss Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 So existing IPs will remain and new ones will be exclusive. Probably they anticipated some road blocks on the AB acquisitions so made this announcement as soon as possible. Day 1 GP will be the best deal anyways. Will be interesting to see how sony moves forward when they acquire a publisher. I am guessing on these lines only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Comingle Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 7 minutes ago, triggr happy ss said: So existing IPs will remain and new ones will be exclusive. Probably they anticipated some road blocks on the AB acquisitions so made this announcement as soon as possible. Day 1 GP will be the best deal anyways. Will be interesting to see how sony moves forward when they acquire a publisher. I am guessing on these lines only. Titles =/= IP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pacifier Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 22 minutes ago, triggr happy ss said: Will be interesting to see how sony moves forward when they acquire a publisher. I am guessing on these lines only. Nope. SONY =/= MICROSOFT. Can Sony Buy out Microsoft? No Can Microsoft Buy out Sony? Yes Now with Above "Yes" , if microsoft continues to buy other studios and continues to grow big, eyes will be on Microsoft only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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