avkash Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Mahela Jayawardhane is overrated, lol - man he can play every shot in the book, as late or as early as he wishes, to hit any gap he wants, and looking absolutely stylish at that, he is godly On Sunday ,nothing to worry if we win the toss, if we lose it, god help us against Anderson. Also I find too many similarities in Dhawan and Sehwag, he is as cocky as Sehwag, ek Jaat bahar, doosra andar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Mahela Jayawardhane is overrated, lol - man he can play every shot in the book, His overseas record is poor compared to greats like Sachin, Dravid etc. And I guess Arvinda De Silva has better record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avkash Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 He is not Sachin or Dravid of course But he is an incredible batsman, incredible finesse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 That finesse which mostly works in sub-continent. Hence overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) OMG there are haters of Mahela Jayawadene He is one of the best cricketer SL has produced, a classic batsman. Just saw people calling him over-rated Edited June 21, 2013 by dante77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 OMG there are haters of Mahela Jayawadene He is one of the best cricketer SL has produced, a classic batsman Who said hater? I like to watch him bat, even against India. I hated him during WC 2011 final though. But facts are facts, his overseas record is mediocre and his ODI record is also poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Ok, not a hater but he NOT over-rated. Your face is over-rated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 He overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Sachin is over-rated #flamesuit on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) Look at Mahela's Test stats: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/49289.html?class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;host=1;host=2;host=3;host=5;orderby=start;template=results;type=allround;view=match Outside subcontinent. 29 matches 1694 runs 141 highest 30.80 average 4 hundreds ODI stats outside subcontinent: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/49289.html?class=2;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;host=1;host=2;host=3;host=5;orderby=start;template=results;type=allround;view=match 127 matches 3410 runs 144 highest 31.00 average 4 hundreds Far from greatest or godly. Edited June 21, 2013 by Rock Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avkash Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) how many foreign batsman have a good record in the subcontinent, funny how they are not thought of as overrated Edit: the whole idea of record in overseas is overrated Edited June 21, 2013 by avkash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheK Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Yup, he is not overrated, maybe not amongst the top but he def sits pretty on the second tier. And i agree, not sure why people take out Overseas book all the time. That way what was Ponting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avkash Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 he was Bhajji's best friend, the sole reason why bhajji could play for so many years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Look at Mahela's Test stats: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/49289.html?class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;host=1;host=2;host=3;host=5;orderby=start;template=results;type=allround;view=match Outside subcontinent. 29 matches 1694 runs 141 highest 30.80 average 4 hundreds ODI stats outside subcontinent: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/49289.html?class=2;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;host=1;host=2;host=3;host=5;orderby=start;template=results;type=allround;view=match 127 matches 3410 runs 144 highest 31.00 average 4 hundreds Far from greatest or godly. He is NOT over-rated. And records only show whether a player is good not but it doesn't prove whether he is bad. yes there is a difference. A player like Klusner never had good record yet he was one of the best all-rounder of his time. Azharuddin's ODI record as a batsman was not good either. Pollard made his first fifty in IPL this season but he was always a key player for mumbai, he won them many matches, A very good record obviously means a player is good but if record is not very good, it doesn't mean he is bad or over-rated. Crucial knocks where it matters counts too, there is a reason they are called crucial knocks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) That way what was Ponting... Meh. Ponting was that. maybe not amongst the top but he def sits pretty on the second tier This. A player like Klusner never had good record yet he was one of the best all-rounder of his time DAFUQ Dante, DAFUQ. 40+ batting average with 3500+ runs and almost 90 striker rate along with 192 wickets with 6 five wicket hauls at economy of 4.70 is not a good record? http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/45821.html And Azhar's ODI record is not good? It is still better than Jaya. 36+ average and 9300 runs is no joke. Mohammed Azharuddin http://www.cricket365.com/player-stats/6444/Mohammad-Azharuddin Edited June 21, 2013 by Rock Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshingore Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 The English attack can be pretty potent if the conditions are in their favour, Anderson being the key. The fact that they've learnt reverse swing helps as well. It's a well rounded off attack with Broad being the guy who can deliver good bouncers and swann/ tredwell handling the spin department well too.. If the conditions are anything like yday's match then expect it to be a tough challenge for India else we can handle them well.. They might actually test Shikhar Dhawan with bouncers over his shoulder since he seems to be a compulsive hooker of the ball.. Raina being the only weak link against pace n bounce I still feel we can do well against them though.. Even tredwell was impressive when they toured India so lets wait n watch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 (edited) Mahela Jayawardhane is overrated, lol - man he can play every shot in the book, as late or as early as he wishes, to hit any gap he wants, and looking absolutely stylish at that, he is godly so does Rohit Sharma but he's criticized for not scoring. still his average is similar to MJ even though he's played some 250+ matches less & can still grow temperamentally. how good your shots look counts for nothing if you dont put up scores how many foreign batsman have a good record in the subcontinent, funny how they are not thought of as overrated Edit: the whole idea of record in overseas is overrated put that down to media bias. but atleast for me foreign batsmen that dont have a good record in the subcontinent are overrated for eg Ponting. whereas someone like M Hussey who scores everywhere IMO is a better batsman than him i dont think "the whole idea of record in overseas" is overrated. if a player can score/take wickets in conditions that are different from one he's grown up in that shows his skill level. so yes, while you cant judge a player only on his overseas record it is a big component. if you're averaging low 30's (however "pretty" your shots are) when you're in middle order & are 1 of 2 or 3 of your sides main batsman then you're not doing your job. i'd take a "ugly" batsman who averages 40's than such a "pretty" batsman any day also thankfully our players dont think like you regd overseas records or 0-8 losses would be the norm Edited June 22, 2013 by filmguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 i hope india & shikhar dont do a csk & mike hussey on sunday i.e. super strong till final then phusss... here's hoping Rohit makes a blistering 100, SRJ & Ishant take 5 wickets each in a big win that also takes the monkey off their backs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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godspeed4476 Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Why do they even bother having the finals if they can't have a reserve day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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