mshingore Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 Can anyone fill me up what went wrong b/w BCCI and ex ICC president and now CSA president Haroon Lorgat ? BCCI threatened they'll pull out the tour if he's the president... Also seems BCCI wants to curtail India's tour to SA... http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=TOIM/2013/07/22&PageLabel=18&EntityId=Ar01800&ViewMode=HTML Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted July 22, 2013 Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 I think third umpire should be allowed to call a super faint hotspot inconclusive and give the decision in favour of the batsman. When it's deemed inconclusive, none of the teams should lose a review from their quota of two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Root is having fun. Good new face of England. joe root looks like a combo hilary swank & princess diana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angad. Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Regarding DRS, I think a better implementation would be if they did not deduct the referral from the referring team's kitty incase it results in an 'on-field umpire's call' as that means the doubt was justified since it was close enough to have gone either way. Also, if it is a no-ball, even then the referral should not be deducted from the kitty, as the fielding side reviewed the decision presuming it was a legal delivery as it was not called by the on-field umpire!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheK Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 ^^agreed, i think in cricket Umpires are let off too easy, they should have some penalties for howlers by umpires too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 Regarding DRS, I think a better implementation would be if they did not deduct the referral from the referring team's kitty incase it results in an 'on-field umpire's call' as that means the doubt was justified since it was close enough to have gone either way. Also, if it is a no-ball, even then the referral should not be deducted from the kitty, as the fielding side reviewed the decision presuming it was a legal delivery as it was not called by the on-field umpire!!No.Lets say if the batsman has been adjudged caught behind wrongly, it goes to third umpire, he finds the replay inconclusive. Now what you are suggesting is that 3rd umpire should go with on-field umpire and let the batting team keep that 1 referral but batsman should be still given out. That's wrong! Read my earlier post, the inconclusive tech analysis should always give benefit of doubt to batsman. But referring team shouldn't be docked off one referral in any such cases. About your point regarding no-ball, that is correct, as it is already being handled outside the DRS purview, as in batsman can check for no-ball when DRS isn't even in play, and it goes for both over-the-line above-waist-height deliveries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angad. Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) No. Lets say if the batsman has been adjudged caught behind wrongly, it goes to third umpire, he finds the replay inconclusive. Now what you are suggesting is that 3rd umpire should go with on-field umpire and let the batting team keep that 1 referral but batsman should be still given out. That's wrong! No, in that case the benefit of doubt should go to the batsman. I dont know what gave you this idea from my post but anyways, I never suggested that in such a case the 3rd umpire should go with the on-field umpire's call. What my post referred to was the "On-Field Umpire's" calls that are made for the LBW decisions. In such cases, whatever the final decision maybe, the referring team should not be deducted a review, as the call was close enough for it to go either way and thus it makes it a genuine review for which they should not be penalized. Edited July 23, 2013 by Angy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 This is balls. Sorry but once third umpire has been activated it is foolish to give the decision back in on field umpires' hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angad. Posted July 23, 2013 Report Share Posted July 23, 2013 This is balls. Sorry but once third umpire has been activated it is foolish to give the decision back in on field umpires' hands. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angad. Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 I hope India lose to Zimbabwe today.....atleast there would be some interest ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dranjithk Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 (edited) India playing Zimbabwe today?! Wow.. Consecutive interesting tours Edit: Not bad, almost everyone from the senior team is playing.. I thought they'd field an A-team Edited July 24, 2013 by dranjithk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 This is balls. Sorry but once third umpire has been activated it is foolish to give the decision back in on field umpires' hands.No no no...it's more complicated ---- When a not-out LBW decision is evaluated, and if the replay demonstrates the ball has made impact more than 2.5m away from the wickets, various additional criteria apply to account for the uncertainty of the ball's potential direction after pitching. For example, if the ball pitches more than 2.5m from the wicket and travels less than 40 cm before hitting the batsman, then any not-out decision given by the on-field umpire stands. It has also been decided that if the batsman is more than 3.5m from the wicket, then again not-out decisions will stand. The only picture in which an LBW decision will be reversed in favor of the bowler is if the batsman is 2.5-3.5m away from the wicket and the ball travels more than 40 cm after pitching before hitting the batsman. In that case, some part of the ball must be hitting the middle stump, and the whole ball must be hitting the stumps below the bails; otherwise, the result is again inconclusive and the call stands. In cases where the original decision is out, the 2.5m or 40 cm distances do not apply, as in that state Hawk Eye must show the ball to be completely missing the stumps in order for the umpire to undo his decision. --- But since players won't know about all this going for appeal, so in close calls its ok not to dock off the reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshingore Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 This is balls. Sorry but once third umpire has been activated it is foolish to give the decision back in on field umpires' hands. No no no...it's more complicated ---- When a not-out LBW decision is evaluated, and if the replay demonstrates the ball has made impact more than 2.5m away from the wickets, various additional criteria apply to account for the uncertainty of the ball's potential direction after pitching. For example, if the ball pitches more than 2.5m from the wicket and travels less than 40 cm before hitting the batsman, then any not-out decision given by the on-field umpire stands. It has also been decided that if the batsman is more than 3.5m from the wicket, then again not-out decisions will stand. The only picture in which an LBW decision will be reversed in favor of the bowler is if the batsman is 2.5-3.5m away from the wicket and the ball travels more than 40 cm after pitching before hitting the batsman. In that case, some part of the ball must be hitting the middle stump, and the whole ball must be hitting the stumps below the bails; otherwise, the result is again inconclusive and the call stands. In cases where the original decision is out, the 2.5m or 40 cm distances do not apply, as in that state Hawk Eye must show the ball to be completely missing the stumps in order for the umpire to undo his decision. --- But since players won't know about all this going for appeal, so in close calls its ok not to dock off the reviews. They've done away with the 2.5 m system and now it's just plain hawkeye predictions which apparently has now improved its own accuracy post WC 11 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshingore Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 I m amazed at how Vinay Kumar is still playing international cricket.. Even against Zimbabve!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 They've done away with the 2.5 m system and now it's just plain hawkeye predictions which apparently has now improved its own accuracy post WC 11 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 So the hawk-eye projected trajectory is considered as it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshingore Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 (edited) They've done away with the 2.5 m system and now it's just plain hawkeye predictions which apparently has now improved its own accuracy post WC 11 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 So the hawk-eye projected trajectory is considered as it is? Yep there are no special stats made available regarding pitching and hitting distance now. What we see on tv is what the third umpire sees. Although an independent feed for these tools like hawkeye and hotspot will be made available to the third umpire soon, it will still be devoid of those impact distance stats Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Edited July 24, 2013 by mshingore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 Ok. I need to read about this. So mishra got a match today. Raza 82 runs, wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentassassin Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 I m amazed at how Vinay Kumar is still playing international cricket.. Even against Zimbabve!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Bowled well in first 5 overs , then got thrashed Come on Vinay , u can do better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheK Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 15th ODI Century from Kohli, neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshingore Posted July 24, 2013 Report Share Posted July 24, 2013 Equals Sehwag n Md Yusuf Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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