Razpor Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 As i expected India lacked strokemakers in the lineup,anyone other than rayudu would have scored more than run a ball in this situation,he isnt cut ouy for t20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harsh1387 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 idiot selection will produce chutiyapanti only. Sent from my Nexus 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentassassin Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 This match justifies the point about middle orderi made yesterday..No real threat... I blame Dhoni for the defeat..Sheer over confidence..2 balls he dint run..Rayudu is a fkin batsman not a tailender..Y the fk did he refuse the single ? Really retarded.. Its not like Dhoni was 80 of 30 balls , even he was struggling to get his timing right.. RR was less than 9 for last 5/ 6 overs..We royally screwed it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sach4life Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 This match justifies the point about middle orderi made yesterday..No real threat... I blame Dhoni for the defeat..Sheer over confidence..2 balls he dint run..Rayudu is a fkin batsman not a tailender..Y the fk did he refuse the single ? Really retarded.. Its not like Dhoni was 80 of 30 balls , even he was struggling to get his timing right.. RR was less than 9 for last 5/ 6 overs..We royally screwed it up Dhoni has done this a lot of times before. Comes in when the rr is around 8-9. Wastes delieveries and shoots the rr to 12-13 and then tries to become a hero in the last over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razpor Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 This match justifies the point about middle orderi made yesterday..No real threat... I blame Dhoni for the defeat..Sheer over confidence..2 balls he dint run..Rayudu is a fkin batsman not a tailender..Y the fk did he refuse the single ? Really retarded.. Its not like Dhoni was 80 of 30 balls , even he was struggling to get his timing right.. RR was less than 9 for last 5/ 6 overs..We royally screwed it up You really cant blame dhoni the batsman,dhoni the captain was the culprit fir selecting rayudu in the first place,he scored frikkin 3 runs off 5-6 balls.Did you really expect him to hit 2 sixes in the end to save the match.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sach4life Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 You really cant blame dhoni the batsman,dhoni the captain was the culprit fir selecting rayudu in the first place,he scored frikkin 3 runs off 5-6 balls.Did you really expect him to hit 2 sixes in the end to save the match.? Dhoni was one of the reasons why we got to that position. He himself was at 10 off 11 at one point. The rr was below 9 when he came. He shooted it up to 12 before trying to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentassassin Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) You really cant blame dhoni the batsman,dhoni the captain was the culprit fir selecting rayudu in the first place,he scored frikkin 3 runs off 5-6 balls.Did you really expect him to hit 2 sixes in the end to save the match.? Really ? Not Dhoni but Rayudu ? Dhoni should have run on those 2 balls Trust him.. I agree with u on captains part.. This is the problem with Dhoni as captain..Does'nt trust players..Makes em feel insecure.. Picks Binny does'nt bowl him.. Picks Rayudu does'nt let him bat.. How will players perform if they know the captain wont trust them.. Edited September 7, 2014 by silentassassin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) well said SA. Wth was with dhoni's tactics? Not taking singles! It's not like it was a bowler at the other end. & ultimately we lost by the margin of number of refused singles. If this was Pakistan ppl would've said fixed. » Rahane's dismissals are softer than a baby's bottom. Even Nohit would be embarrassed by them. » So much for Raina version 2.0. Fizzled out after 2 matches. » Shami's first over was so good - all Yorkers on the spot. but after that.. » Moeen had been out twice now trying to copy Raina's uppish extra cover drive. » Have Eng also woken up to the fact like many others that jadeja doesn't turn the ball a lot, he's been hit quite a bit in last 2 matches. » Mohit Sharma gets exposed once more but will still keep his place while Umesh who at least has pace gets one chance & gets dropped » With Indian bowlers I get feeling that how well they do depends on the intent shown by opposing batsman. If they don't show any intent (like Eng in first 3 odi's) then they are on top. Moment they show intent (like in last 2 matches) they don't have an answer. Edited September 7, 2014 by Chewie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 I think a group stage exit is imminent in WC. 2007 all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 GG was right to criticize this BS tactic of dhoni. Even if it works once in awhile there's more chance of it failing then succeeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harsh1387 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Last 2 games have shown team composition is not right. We have no one except for Dhoni to enforce run rate lower down. They need to correct these in WI odis itself before aussies. Yuvi is the right guy for that place and they must try him once. Rahane is not dependable. Plays too many loose shots. But we don't have many options as dhawan is a bigger idiot. So Nohit and Rahane as Openers with dhawan out of the door. Sent from my Nexus 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 It's good we lost last 2 matches else team would've come back on a underserved high with the faults covered over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 MS believes in his "captain cool" image too much. weird tactics, taking things to last over even when not needed etc with this strategy of taking it to last over he makes the situation such that he & only he can win it, no one else. whereas if he played normally/aggressively from ball 1 as other, non-srini chachu, players are expected to then maybe even if he fails then someone else at least has a chance. say for eg y'day he got out with 17 off 2 overs needed then even raydu/ashwin/bhuvi could've maybe got that. but if he'd got out with 17 needed off last over then no way they would've got that. in any event even with him there we didnt. seems he only trusts csk mates & the sharmas. i bet if mohit sharma had been there at other end y'day he wouldnt have refused those singles things are looking bleak. it seems only if virat does well can we do well & he's no sachin who did that regularly in all formats since '87 we followed up decent/good WCs with bad/disastrous ones. looks like pattern is going to be maintained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 since '87 we followed up decent/good WCs with bad/disastrous ones. looks like pattern is going to be maintained. Yes. 92 bad, 96 semis (should have won that WC), 99 bad, 2003 final (Australia was way better), 2007 f**king TERRIBLE CAMPAIGN, 2011 won as expected. 2015? Knock out at QF. Our group is easy. Only difficult opponent is SA. Pak we will win by default, WI loves to hit 6s, and on big Australian grounds it will be very difficult. So QF spot is guaranteed. I am very interested in how SA does at WC. Historically they have done better outside subcontinents in WCs. Should have won 92 and 99, choked terribly at 2003 and 2007, 2011 didn't have a chance. 2015 is their best chance, with the kind of bowling attack and batsman they have. Sri Lanka also look good, and Australia obviously. No clear favorites IMO. I would rate SA>Aus>SL>Rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razpor Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 This world cup is going to very competitiveGonna get some amazing games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harsh1387 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 My semi final teams for dis world cup - Aus, SL, SA, Ind. I believe India has a very good chance. Whatever we say about Dhoni it's a fact he is too good in world cups. Luck or whatever I will bet on him. Sent from my Nexus 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 dont forget about NZ who will be playing most matches at home & have a very good side. will probably perform best of all teams in first round. my S/F prediction - Aus NZ Ind (more hope than belief) WI/SL (both are, like India, dependent on just few players but if they click they have good chance) hoping SA will choke out in Q/F. if they get through that then it'll probably be SA vs NZ final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 get the feeling with dhoni that odi's is his sweet spot. tests are too slow for him & he drifts, t20 too frenetic. odi's allow him to control middle overs (no such thing in t20s) & while batting he needs time to get into groove which isnt there in t20. we critcised yuvi for his batting in final but its not like MS was able to time anything in the 10 or whatever balls that he was there. this is not 1st time he's remained not out & we lost by a small margin. this match is eerily similar (Virat 50+ & we lose by 1 run) http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-new-zealand-2012/engine/match/565820.html also remember this match vs Eng (though this was more Sir's fault. 1 of the 2 wt20 exits he's responsible for) http://www.espncricinfo.com/wt202009/engine/match/356010.html dhoni has not got a single fifty in T20 internationals and has the lowest strike rate among the top 7 Indian batsman y'day he came in to bat when it was 14.2 overs, at that stage india needed just 50 runs of the 34 balls, the asking rate was just 8.82 at that stage, with so many wickets in hand & so many balls still remaining most teams would have achieved that target easily but he complicated everything after this. before that final over he had made just 14 off 12 balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 SA is gonna win the world cup 2015 Final will be SA vs Aus and it will be epic. Semi Final will have SA, Aus, NZ and IND/NZ (more chance of NZ) and that's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 SA is gonna win the world cup 2015 Final will be SA vs Aus and it will be epic. Semi Final will have SA, Aus, NZ and IND/NZ (more chance of NZ) and that's that. bhai, are you from Jo'burg or Durban? & NZ so good they are going to seal 2 S/F spots? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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