silentassassin Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Kohli will be out of the team in 2 years if he remains captain. 4 tests as captain , 4 test 100's Yea..He'll be out of team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Banz Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 He might be batting better when he's the captain, but overall he's a terrible captain. I don't think he even understands cricket deeply enough to take this responsibility. All he's been talking about is "aggression" like it's some new word he learnt. He doesn't really know what he means. 4 Tests as captain and he's already pulled out defeat from the jaws of victory twuce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentassassin Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 He might be batting better when he's the captain, but overall he's a terrible captain. I don't think he even understands cricket deeply enough to take this responsibility. All he's been talking about is "aggression" like it's some new word he learnt. He doesn't really know what he means. 4 Tests as captain and he's already pulled out defeat from the jaws of victory twuce. Once.. Blaming him for the defeat in 1st test in Aus is not good.. No one really thought we'll even go for a win..We did play really well in that test match.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funnyadit Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Once.. Blaming him for the defeat in 1st test in Aus is not good.. No one really thought we'll even go for a win..We did play really well in that test match.. Yeah, I thought thats the way they would go about it , but it seemed really unreal leaving every delivery and defending others, no effort to score...Dhawan should have played his usual game....Easy chance of winning was there but I feel it was some management maybe Shastri's approach to the game...They took that 4th innings max chase of 120 very seriously instead of playing freely..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sach4life Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Yeah, I thought thats the way they would go about it , but it seemed really unreal leaving every delivery and defending others, no effort to score...Dhawan should have played his usual game....Easy chance of winning was there but I feel it was some management maybe Shastri's approach to the game...They took that 4th innings max chase of 120 very seriously instead of playing freely..... He is talking about the furst test match again Australia and not this match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funnyadit Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 He is talking about the furst test match again Australia and not this match. Yeah I know, thats what I was also saying, the approach there really made everyone feel positive with the winning intent they showed there...And likewise I expected similar approach to this SL match total as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Lol @ dhoni fans. Lol @ Kohli haters. 1000 Dhoni bhi Kohli ke Dhone ke kaabil nahi hai BC. Kohli miles ahead of him. As for captaincy. Make Aaron the captain and see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 I dont think Dhoni was any Tactics guru. Its all in the selection, picking up Rohit Sharma means 25% match is already lost. Vijay being out and Saha's history being disgraceful either sides of the stumps, in total 50% game was gone anyway before 1st ball was bowled. that's what i meant that dhoni was poor tactically but this guy is even worse... not bowling Ashwin straight away in 2nd session on day 1 which allowed them to score >120, giving HB the 1 over at end of day 2 , when mishra had just taken a wicket from that end, just to justify his 5 bowler theory opening with 2 seamers on day 3 despite Ashwin having had KS & Angelo in 1st innings & on that wicket with these 2 duffers bowling they're lucky KS didn't score a double. but I guess that's left for the next test. all that B.S. talk of aggression went phuss at first opportunity.. pak had chased down 99 in 11 overs in their 4th innings on the same pitch. now that is aggression. his aggression talk is going to annoy as much as dhoni 's processes talk now only hope is he loses all the matches so someone sensible is brought on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Exactly. He can take his aggression and put it in his batting. He isn't captaincy material at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harsh1387 Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Selectors are so naive. They have a perfect candidate for Captain- Nohit. He will never get out of form(cos he is never in form), will have plenty of style and class and natural talent( which we mortals can never see). Major plus is he will play forever, maybe longer than Sachin(cos he is God's favorite child and also selectors). Also, no stupid aggression talks or processes or whatever. He will just shrug his shoulders. Job done. In any case we are gonna lose to all major teams(with humiliation) so they should do it ASAP. On a serious note Ashwin seems to be level headed Captain material. Kumble did a great job in his brief stint and I am sure Ashwin can do the same. The issue is selectors are always biased towards star power rather than seeing the capability. Sent from my Nexus 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funnyadit Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 On a serious note Ashwin seems to be level headed Captain material. Kumble did a great job in his brief stint and I am sure Ashwin can do the same. The issue is selectors are always biased towards star power rather than seeing the capability. Sent from my Nexus 4 Yeah I do agree but dont know whether they will change or try Ashwin unless VK gets injured...But even then I think they would think of Rahane as the replacement..We need some player like say Ganguly or even Dhoni to tell that Ashwin can do the job for the team as a captain...He matures with games, I am sure when given the opportunity he wil rise... Until then VK will remain the captain as captaincy is not something to be shuffling much thats what the board or management will feel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banz Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) Once.. Blaming him for the defeat in 1st test in Aus is not good. He was right there when the defeat happened. He allowed the batsmen around himself to just throw their wickets away. There was no reason to go after the bowling so much. We had one full session to around a hundred runs. They were playing as if our required run rate was higher than 6. In the end we got bowled out with a quite some time left. He should have simply told the other batsmen to hang around, hit the bad balls if they come, and try and rotate the strike. Virat was batting brilliantly at that time. He let Saha throw his wicket away and after the match he said that he let the batsmen just bat the way they wanted. What kind of a captain just lets everything drift away like that? PS. Apparently Dhawan is now injured and will be replaced by Binny. We were already one batsman short, now he's replacing one proper batsman and replacing him with an allrounder. Edited August 17, 2015 by Banz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funnyadit Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Why is Irfan Pathan not playing cricket, left or just to earn money dancing?? He is a good all arounder, better than Binny.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puruzi10 Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Why is Irfan Pathan not playing cricket, left or just to earn money dancing?? He is a good all arounder, better than Binny..Yup,he is a good allrounder and he can make a comeback hopefully in the coming months.Btw the money he is earing from dancing is going to a foundation which was started by the Pathan bros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funnyadit Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Yup,he is a good allrounder and he can make a comeback hopefully in the coming months. Btw the money he is earing from dancing is going to a foundation which was started by the Pathan bros Thanks for that info did not know that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentassassin Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Why is Irfan Pathan not playing cricket, left or just to earn money dancing?? He is a good all arounder, better than Binny.. Yup,he is a good allrounder and he can make a comeback hopefully in the coming months. Btw the money he is earing from dancing is going to a foundation which was started by the Pathan bros His fitness sucks rats a*s , getting injured everey 2/ 3 games..Dint even get a single game for CSK. Played like 4/5 games for SRH before that.. Cant even get into IPL at this moment.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 that's what i meant that dhoni was poor tactically but this guy is even worse... not bowling Ashwin straight away in 2nd session on day 1 which allowed them to score >120, giving HB the 1 over at end of day 2 , when mishra had just taken a wicket from that end, just to justify his 5 bowler theory opening with 2 seamers on day 3 despite Ashwin having had KS & Angelo in 1st innings & on that wicket with these 2 duffers bowling they're lucky KS didn't score a double. but I guess that's left for the next test. And where does this book of tactics come from? Every tactic is a fail if it doesnt bring out the outcome, and every tactic is awesome which brings the result. recalling the T20, in which Dhoni didnt give strike to Rayudu and hoped to hit a sixer to seal the deal. Now we have seen Dhoni, he can finish with six and he has done chases after getting the game to the wire. Was it a poor tactics, perhaps not, was it conventional and goes against general belief, YES! And that is what tactics is not a big deal. This is why I dont give a f**k about tactics. I would rather judge instincts to select right people to do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) And where does this book of tactics come from? Every tactic is a fail if it doesnt bring out the outcome, and every tactic is awesome which brings the result. no. good tactics is just common sense.. bowler who's bowling well, in rhythm, troubling all batsmen & is not tired you keep bowling him from the end he's picking wickets. instead to bowl someone who's low on confidence, has lost his zip, just because he's around, is stupid. it cost us a good 50 runs at least in 1st innings. to open with 2 pacers together when batsmen are not settled, 2 pacers who are duffers & cannot keep any control & leak runs let alone pick wickets is stupid. again another 50 runs minimum. if you want to see what help they can get then bowl 1 seamer at one end & a spinner at another. all this is not rocket science. it's common sense. dhoni's bouncer tactics at lords may have won the match but i said it then that they were lucky that eng fell in the trap. any smarter team wouldnt have. what happened few months later at gabba? a match we should've won was gifted away by persistin with those same stupid short ball tactic. sachin had promoted robin singh in an odi & he failed. later, saurav did the same & it suceeded. a tactic is smart or it is not, irrespective of the outcome like banz said even in ADL they went too hard too early. instead if they'd waited till the last 15 overs of the match the RRR would've manageable to get & if they lost top order wickets then it would've been easier for even lower order just to bat out the remainder. This is why I dont give a f**k about tactics. I would rather judge instincts to select right people to do the job. well on the evidence so far virat doesnt have the instincts or the tactics. how anyone could've lost that match i still dont know. it's categorically the worst loss of the last i dont know how may years. i'm struggling to remember a match which we gifted away from such a position. second worst is that b mac 300 match (& virat was the main culprit there too) but there we at least got away with a draw (thanks to virat being given not out to an edge) Edited August 17, 2015 by Chewie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 no. good tactics is just common sense.. b. all this is not rocket science. it's common sense. So you agree that good tactics is common sense as in simpleton thinking applied which a commoner sitting in a drawing room can have, that is not tactics. tactics is what you mentioned, dhoni bowling bouncers successfully in lords, repeating it not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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