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1 minute ago, Big Boss said:

Saha is also among the 3 kept in self isolation. Representing country has its perks and responsibilities too. He has put the whole team at risk. No idea how many will get infected. Also Covid can affect performance. Chelsea football player Havertz had medium symptoms and his form dropped badly after recovering and took him few months to come back to his best. His whole season almost was derailed. Who knows how much it will affect Pant. Hopefully not much as he has taken first dose, but this is definitely delta variant. So fingers crossed he recovers fast.

I am sure all of them would have got two vaccines by now. Ya there is danger of spread but then see what happened to England team, this thing some how finds a loop hole and gets to you. More then cricket, i am worried about Olympics, that is going to be crazy.

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Saha is also among the 3 kept in self isolation. Representing country has its perks and responsibilities too. He has put the whole team at risk. No idea how many will get infected. Also Covid can affect performance. Chelsea football player Havertz had medium symptoms and his form dropped badly after recovering and took him few months to come back to his best. His whole season almost was derailed. Who knows how much it will affect Pant. Hopefully not much as he has taken first dose, but this is definitely delta variant. So fingers crossed he recovers fast.
As per reports out of 2 player one is already negative in Tests. So, it could be Pant. Also, both players are asymptomatic. But ya, highly irresponsible from Pant and whoever else was roaming around England.

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Ya. Didn't get any real support. Only Roy was impressive. Malan should never open. Bairstow is the best opener in white ball and his place shouldn't be tinkered with. And Morgan looked like he is holding the bat for first time. He has been below average since long but keeps his place being world cup winning captain.

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Morgan is terribly out of form.
I think if he doesn't score in Wt20 or win the Wt20, he'll be dropped.

Malan is opening as Butler is not playing. Hence Bairstow playing at no 3.
Once Butler comes in, he'll automatically open the innnings.

Target was too steep yesterday. Run rate was good, but they dint have enough wickets.
Pakistan held on to all their catches and took some good ones as well. This would have surprised England a great deal :lol: 

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Babar Azam said "F__k You" to the people who selected ICC T20 Team of the Year and didn't include Babar Azam in it. He has been a better player than Kohli in recent times.

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Babar Azam said "F__k You" to the people who selected ICC T20 Team of the Year and didn't include Babar Azam in it. He has been a better player than Kohli in recent times.
Thia is pure recency bias.

T20 stats-

Kohli has 3159 runs at 139 strike rate with an average of 52.65

Azam has 2120 runs at 131 strike rate with an average of 48.

Do tell me how Azam is better.

Even in tests Babar has 2169 runs at 43 average.

Kohli has 7547 runs at 52 AVG.

And I won't even get into ODI stats where Kohli is way ahead of even people like Williamson, root, Smith.

No way Babar has a claim or deserves to be in ICC team of the year.

He is the best Pakistani batsman to play in sometime but no way he is World best.

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7 minutes ago, harsh1387 said:

Thia is pure recency bias.

T20 stats-

Kohli has 3159 runs at 139 strike rate with an average of 52.65

Azam has 2120 runs at 131 strike rate with an average of 48.

Do tell me how Azam is better.

Even in tests Babar has 2169 runs at 43 average.

Kohli has 7547 runs at 52 AVG.

And I won't even get into ODI stats where Kohli is way ahead of even people like Williamson, root, Smith.

No way Babar has a claim or deserves to be in ICC team of the year.

He is the best Pakistani batsman to play in sometime but no way he is World best.

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V Kohli avg 42 , Babar Azam 58. (2019-21 in Tests)
V Kohli avg 58 , Babar Azam 77. (2019-21 in ODIs).

 

Loosebuschange avgs 72 in Tests during same period. 

 

Avg in T20s for Kohli is miles ahead of Babar but runs and matches are same for both.

 

and If Babar Azam isnt anywhere compared to Kohli, why is he ranked above Kohli in ICC Rankings. https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/icc-rankings/t20-batting

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V Kohli avg 42 , Babar Azam 58. (2019-21 in Tests)
V Kohli avg 58 , Babar Azam 77. (2019-21 in ODIs).
 
Loosebuschange avgs 72 in Tests during same period. 
 
Avg in T20s for Kohli is miles ahead of Babar but runs and matches are same for both.
 
and If Babar Azam isnt anywhere compared to Kohli, why is he ranked above Kohli in ICC Rankings. https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/icc-rankings/t20-batting
We should take the whole career. Not pick and choose the years. By that Logic we should only compare both of them when Babar has played the same number of matches Kohli has played. When you play longer you get form slumps. Look at Cook, he was claimed as the one to break Sachins Test records but form slump at the end of career made sure he wasn't anywhere near it.

Like Martin Crowe said Kohli is the part of Fab 4. He should only be compared to Root, Smith and Williamson as these guys started there cricket Journeys together so their longevity is comparable.

Don't get me wrong. I enjoy Babar's batting but he still has many years to prove being better than Kohli.

Also, please don't believe in rankings. Do you seriously believe Dawid Malan is the no.1 T20 player in the world cos rankings says so? ICC rankings are flawed cos they deduct points if players miss series and Kohli misses a lot of T20 internationals.

I will still say, Johnny Bairstow is the best white ball player right now. Even better than Kohli. That guy is playing on a whole different level since few years.



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Just now, harsh1387 said:

We should take the whole career. Not pick and choose the years. By that Logic we should only compare both of them when Babar has played the same number of matches Kohli has played. When you play longer you get form slumps. Look at Cook, he was claimed as the one to break Sachins Test records but form slump at the end of career made sure he wasn't anywhere near it.

Like Martin Crowe said Kohli is the part of Fab 4. He should only be compared to Root, Smith and Williamson as these guys started there cricket Journeys together so their longevity is comparable.

Don't get me wrong. I enjoy Babar's batting but he still has many years to prove being better than Kohli.

Also, please don't believe in rankings. Do you seriously believe Dawid Malan is the no.1 T20 player in the world cos rankings says so? ICC rankings are flawed cos they deduct points if players miss series and Kohli misses a lot of T20 internationals.

I will still say, Johnny Bairstow is the best white ball player right now. Even better than Kohli. That guy is playing on a whole different level since few years.



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You missed the part where I said "recent times" in my 1st post. Cheers. 

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You missed the part where I said "recent times" in my 1st post. Cheers. 
No, I didn't. Let's agree to disagree

World cup groups got announced yesterday. India is paired with Pakistan, NZ and Afghanistan. Finally we meet Pakistan again in World cup
The other group is much tougher.

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I am not even excited to hear about Ind vs Pak anymore. India usually dominates and Pakistan isn't is even comparable now a days. Not following their recent cricket, maybe the got better but I enjoy India against a stronger team like Aus, SA, Eng etc.

That recent series win against Aus with only youngsters in our side still gives me goosebumps!

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I am not even excited to hear about Ind vs Pak anymore. India usually dominates and Pakistan isn't is even comparable now a days. Not following their recent cricket, maybe the got better but I enjoy India against a stronger team like Aus, SA, Eng etc.

That recent series win against Aus with only youngsters in our side still gives me goosebumps!
In T20 Pak has a good team. They defeated England yesterday by scoring 232. Can't take them lightly. And India Vs Pak is always special. It's a different kind of satisfaction defeating them. Although since last decade or so I rate Aussies as our favourite rivals.

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I am not even excited to hear about Ind vs Pak anymore. India usually dominates and Pakistan isn't is even comparable now a days. Not following their recent cricket, maybe the got better but I enjoy India against a stronger team like Aus, SA, Eng etc.

That recent series win against Aus with only youngsters in our side still gives me goosebumps!
In T20 Pak has a good team. They defeated England yesterday by scoring 232. Can't take them lightly. And India Vs Pak is always special. It's a different kind of satisfaction defeating them. Although since last decade or so I rate Aussies as our favourite rivals.

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1 hour ago, harsh1387 said:

ICC rankings are flawed cos they deduct points if players miss series

I don't think it happens this way. You don't lose points if you don't play. Other players who play cross you in rankings because they gain points.  

 

edit : you are right on this and I'm wrong. You DO lose points. 

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