Somebody Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Guys let me clear this for u guys i am 100% sure i was not involved in this....100% sureall this has happened in my Cyber Cafe ( the Cyber cafe which i own) involving some guys including one of my cousin i have got to know about this only yesterday from my cousin.... i will explain in detail what has happened...i am off to Aero India now, once i am back i explain what has happened... ^^ Gautham i can only say that u dont have to worry....very very disappointed with what has happened.... guys pls do not come to conclusion without knowing any facts.... what deals...it was those refund deals which was closed by me, but they have still not closed it because they think the same way that i have 2 IDs...infact it was from one of the mod in TE informed that those ID have been created from the same IP & PC...only then yesterday i came to know about the scams... it is very difficult for me answer some of ur questions when i dont even know the full details of this issue...just trying to find out... never expected to be in such horrible situation....i will try to explain what ever correct facts i know... after going thru the thread all I can say is that, If i had planned something like this I would have done in a much better way…….. I have been in GI since a year now….why the hell would I even think doing such sales after being part of such a big community…. and how would I even think of selling my so called duplicate ID… all this so called scam has been done in my cyber cafe...(the cyber cafe which I have been running from the past 8 yrs....GI member like Assassins Creed and Psywarrior (Anip - Consoul) have visitesd my cyber....yes i am the Damn proprietor ands at this very moment i am right there in my cyber café typing this explanation) 4 guys (including one of my relative called Rakshit are involved in this), they have done done it in such a way that even if something goes wrong the fingers would be pointed at me…. They have seen/watched me using GI for quite some time, whenever I am in my cyber my GI windows always used to be open/logged in, I never used to logout..(I used Mozilla, it saves user IS & Pass)…..they have used some of the PCs to create IDs at my cyber to post their sales…I don’t really know which PS3 they might have used to click those pics….(also chances are that the PS3 being the one which I was using to play MGS4 before I purchased my PS3 as some of them used to game at my house aswell)…… Thanks to my cousin Kiran who has already cleared up some of the refunds, he had taken this initiative deliberately not wanting me to get to know about these issues…. Also thanks to Karthik / scorpioguy. I cant really answer regarding the photos clicked from E71, that is something which I cant answer and which I cant take a guess…… but will surely find it out…and yes as some of u guys said they might have used my cell phone itself….chances are high… TE Deals – don’t really want to answer about TE deals here but I will clear some things out,……yes I had sold my E71 & one LCD monitor to two guys in TE, due to some shipping/financial reasons I was not able to deliver the items & also there was some delay in me refunding the amount to them….few days back i have refunded the full amount to both the buyers…. Since there was a delay in refund the Mods in TE had opened thread asking me to clear up those 2 issues…. Now they are linking up my ID with those duplicate ID as they were accessed from the same IP & Machine… @scorpioguy…yes I was the one who asked for the ICICI account number from Mr. Ramchandra, as Rakshit (the scam head) needed a ICICI account for some online transaction, he rejected when I offered to give my HDFC account details…he was particular about ICICI for all these damn reasons which got to know now…. I have also found out that they have taken money from another guy from GI for a Xbox 360 sale, will get in touch with that guy and try to resolve the issue asap… also if there is any other guy who has to receive money pls let me know…. @Sam/Admins/mods..it is totally up to you guys..u can go ahead and ban me or take whatever action with respect to the GI forum rules & reg…. @Babloos..u don’t have to worry about ur HD Component cable as I have already shipped it.. @Loose_King….i have already shipped gears 1…again u don’t have to be concerned @Gautham…I have already spoken to you, will meet u in mysore tomorrow …. @HSP…I still have ur MGS4 copy, if possible I will meet u in person to handover the copy or pls PM me ur addres I will ship it to u… @Arguid….. I still haven’t shipped the LBP copy which I had borrowed from you, will do t on Monday… I have tried to clear things ups as far as i know….. if there is something which has not been answered pls ask me I will try to clear things up as much as I can… & I know I can’t really convince everyone … I reiterate that I am not involved in this so called scam…. Very disappointed/feeling low & ashamed at what has happened… thanks guys ^^ yes dude i lost my job almost a month back... and i do not want to answer about those deals in TE...also i was not able to ship the cell phone to thru those non trust able couriers thats the reason i decided not to take risk in shipping..& just because i have lost my job it dosent mean that i cant purchase any stuffs.....& is there any rules that i cant work & do a business simultaneously..... & also i don't know if they have used my user ID to post in GI...that is something which i have to find out they used my other cousins account because they did not want to reveal their identity..it s simple...i also doubt that they have any bank accounts.. & yes my cousin didn't reveal this issue to me thinking that i will make this a big issue with their family & also he might have thought he could handle this alone...& Kiran (my cousin never gave me money or withdrew money from his account) it would be very difficult for me to answer post by post...i will try to answer all together...let the doubts or Qs comin in... there are also some Questions which i cant really answer & cook up big stories without knowing anything i am signing off now.. me off to Mysore...will answer all ur queries later tonite or once i come back tomorrow...thank you also to clear things out Kiran informed me to transfer some amount to Karthiks account as he was very busy with his office....(infact we both were wroking for the same company before i lost my job), i did transfer some amount the transfer didnt happen...so he deposited the cash to karthiks account...but i never knew the transfer was for this reason OMG...whats happening guys.... just because i lost my job does it mean that i cant get into any other company...& this is something very personnel why should reveal all those things to u guys....& office can also mean cyber or another business or work for that matter... ^^that neg feedback in TP was changed by the mods...thinking that it is my duplicate ID & i would request you guys not take that drastic step of law suit or something like that...that would turnout to be one big headache for everyone here including me...and also most of the guys have received the refund its totally upto u guys i dont really want to force u guys .... u guys should decide what is best...& yes lesson learnt... & only thing i can make usre is that this dosent get repeated again...& u have totally mistaken about the withdrawals in the ATM...that was not my cousin Kiran @Mods/Admins...if they decide about filing a law suit u can lock this thread....or else i will try to answer maybe tomorrow... thanks guys yes ur right, it is Vishwas, ..poor fellow he dosent even know who has transferred this money to his account, he has just withdrawn the money and handedover it to Rakshit the Culprit as they have requested it from him.....thats it...lets not involve that guys who has got nothing to do with this...& i dont really know what date scorpioguy transferred money to his account.... guys dont worry i am not going to makeup any stories... i know even if i write the truth no one is gonna belive me....cause it looks like u guys have already decided that i was also involved... i actually decided to explain everything again...but there is no point in doing so.. i just want to answer one qustion to KIllzone.... Kiran took up the initiative to return funds because he his the brother of Rakshit the guy behind this scam.... never in my life i had this type of a problem where all the neg points are pointed at me even though i am not involved. the only thing i can say is that all those money will be returned to whoever has paid from Kiran.... i am in such a situation because i have nothing to prove that i am not involved...that is how is has been planned. its almost like some of the guys are pressurising me to accept that i was involved.... this is how the way my gaming craze ends...and also a huge lesson learnt in life.... @HSP & others need not worry about ur games..i will send it to u guys... @Sam it is totally upto u guys to decide to ban me or not... i am not gonna question.. i sincerely hope this ends here.... pls donot drag it any further.. which again compicates things.. i donot want to answer anymore and make things complicated.... i can only blame myself.... thank you... all of deepak's posts in this thread anyway, read the stuff i highlighted in red. He keeps saying that he'll explain later... explain later... explain later and now he comes and says he cant explain coz there's no point in explaining. edit: i know the post is a little too long but, hp, read this since u haven't been following this thread much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastAvenger Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Deepak - getting banned from this place or anyother should be your last headache. You need to worry about the criminal charges if a class action suit is filed or any suit is filed against you for fraud. I think its gonna be better if you explain properly and provide a proper argument which will make you prove innocent. If you end up saying diplomatic things, you will end up in more trouble m8. I don't think you are understanding the seriousness of this situation. If people can go with the trouble of getting their money back , filing a suit is not a big deal for them and don't come under wrong expression and under estimate the legal system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godspeed4476 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Deepak - getting banned from this place or anyother should be your last headache. You need to worry about the criminal charges if a class action suit is filed or any suit is filed against you for fraud. I think its gonna be better if you explain properly and provide a proper argument which will make you prove innocent. If you end up saying diplomatic things, you will end up in more trouble m8. I don't think you are understanding the seriousness of this situation. If people can go with the trouble of getting their money back , filing a suit is not a big deal for them and don't come under wrong expression and under estimate the legal system. As i said the money has already been spent on , games, liqours and hookers, now the "Raju and company" needs to scam some1else to pay the guys in GI. But dont u guys need to File an NC or a FIR, before taking the matter to court case? i think an FIR or NC should be good enough to scare the scamsters in paying the money back with accured interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killzone123 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Deepak - getting banned from this place or anyother should be your last headache. You need to worry about the criminal charges if a class action suit is filed or any suit is filed against you for fraud. I think its gonna be better if you explain properly and provide a proper argument which will make you prove innocent. If you end up saying diplomatic things, you will end up in more trouble m8. I don't think you are understanding the seriousness of this situation. If people can go with the trouble of getting their money back , filing a suit is not a big deal for them and don't come under wrong expression and under estimate the legal system. absolutely right bro...i dont know if scorpioguy will go ahead with it legally or not till now..i advised him to do it...if god forbid something like that had happened with me...i would have surely gone ahead with it legally ofcourse because the matter here is quite serious...deepak words that people use his cyber cafe without his knowledge what they are doing...is the most dangerous statement in the present scenario of terrorist attacks etc...someone tomorrow will send a suspicious email from his cyber cafe and he will give this logic to the cops....plus the extent of a well planned fraud with the sole intention to fool innocent targets is a grave crime in itself ...its upto scorpioguy if he wants to pursue it legally too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somebody Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 i know even if i write the truth no one is gonna belive me....cause it looks like u guys have already decided that i was also involved... i actually decided to explain everything again...but there is no point in doing so.. never in my life i had this type of a problem where all the neg points are pointed at me even though i am not involved. the only thing i can say is that all those money will be returned to whoever has paid from Kiran.... i am in such a situation because i have nothing to prove that i am not involved...that is how is has been planned. its almost like some of the guys are pressurising me to accept that i was involved.... this is how the way my gaming craze ends...and also a huge lesson learnt in life.... i sincerely hope this ends here.... pls donot drag it any further.. which again compicates things.. i donot want to answer anymore and make things complicated.... i can only blame myself.... wth is that post abt ?? why wouldn't all negative points be pointed at u if u did all that bullshIt in TE and giving excuses every single time somebody asks u to return money or explain abt what really happnd ?? TE Deals – don’t really want to answer about TE deals here but I will clear some things out,……yes I had sold my E71 & one LCD monitor to two guys in TE, due to some shipping/financial reasons I was not able to deliver the items & also there was some delay in me refunding the amount to them….few days back i have refunded the full amount to both the buyers…. Since there was a delay in refund the Mods in TE had opened thread asking me to clear up those 2 issues….oh... so, u had financial reasons for not refunding money but u still had enough money (37.5k+PS3 price+fifa09 price) to buy all those at the same exact time whom're u trying to fool deepak ? Us or yourself ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killzone123 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 wth is that post abt ?? why wouldn't all negative points be pointed at u if u did all that bullshIt in TE and giving excuses every single time somebody asks u to return money or explain abt what really happnd ?? oh... so, u had financial reasons for not refunding money but u still had enough money (37.5k+PS3 price+fifa09 price) to buy all those at the same exact time whom're u trying to fool deepak ? Us or yourself ?? really wish we all have financial problems like that where we go ahead and buy hdtv,ps3 ,fifa 09 etc etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karooo Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 deepak is pawnd lmao... KZwa ftw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinitwins Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 kz123 - pls change your avatar pic - every time you make a post, i end up wasting 10mins staring at that girl V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killzone123 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 kz123 - pls change your avatar pic - every time you make a post, i end up wasting 10mins staring at that girl V thats the whole point..its to make sure that people rush to read my post first and then keep staring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karooo Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 ^^ lol there is another girl also, i think he found it in gametrailers but that girl is very cuuute!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 thats the whole point..its to make sure that people rush to read my post first and then keep staring OT: Do you know her name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killzone123 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 OT: Do you know her name? well..you think if i knew i would tell you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 Aah good ol killzone, always leading the front when it come to pawn a xbot j/k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersim Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 really wish we all have financial problems like that where we go ahead and buy hdtv,ps3 ,fifa 09 etc etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imrahn Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 lol @ Deepak still trying to be smartass and fool us off....Cafe,same PC,same IP....MY BALLS!!!! If anyone wanna move legally, count me in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
вι¢ннσσвαвα Posted February 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 i agree with Obaid, he had enough chances to prove his innocence, but nothing deepak has said so holds any ground.whats worse is tht deepak has replied in the deal thread , "saying it as a good price", now this was not possible without him being not involved/running in the scam. Deepak says tht he had left his ID on in the cafe and his cousins accessed it, i say thts bullcrap, even if thts the case he is responsible for handling His ID carefully. and yes, just because a person looks nice and Sober in actual does not mean tht he is not a scamster, i mean do all the Scamster's behave in EVIL and untowards way right from the birth? +1 ....i agree with obaid and GS, all scamsters look nice and sober. a good example. the great scam known to everybody which happened recently. Satyam/maytaS: Ramalinga Raju & Rama Raju. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
вι¢ннσσвαвα Posted February 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 absolutely right bro...i dont know if scorpioguy will go ahead with it legally or not till now..i advised him to do it...if god forbid something like that had happened with me...i would have surely gone ahead with it legally ofcourse because the matter here is quite serious...deepak words that people use his cyber cafe without his knowledge what they are doing...is the most dangerous statement in the present scenario of terrorist attacks etc...someone tomorrow will send a suspicious email from his cyber cafe and he will give this logic to the cops....plus the extent of a well planned fraud with the sole intention to fool innocent targets is a grave crime in itself ...its upto scorpioguy if he wants to pursue it legally too I would surely like to take legal action against DEEP@K, kindly let me know as what needs to be done. I know that this will surely put his cousin and relatives in to big problem as their Bank Accounts were involved in the Transactions. The reason for DEEP@K being MUM is that he has no more reasons to post and just by acting diplomatic it will not prove you innocent DEEP@K. I feel bad for your parents who are upset after they came to know about this issue from your uncle :Mr.Ramachandra and you still act as if nothing has happened. After doing a crime if you close your eyes tight, it does not mean that nobody will see the crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-JeRi Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 @Scorpio Dude if you do not take legal action against scums like this. you will be doing the biggest mistake in your life. If you let them go they will think that they can do anything and get away with it..as long as this is india and online sites...and some kids invlvoed. Make them know that ALL ARE NOT KIDS. AND ALL ACTIONS HAVE REACTIONS. What deepak saying is not on level. Only a mentally retarded person can be played like this... what so he doesnt know anything that happens to him Take the action. Atelast a criminal record against all the guys name will be enuff. Will Teach them good when they try for a Visa, Job, Marriage. DO IT AT LEAST FOR KEEPING OTHERS TRUST. DO IT FOR THE HUNDREDS THAT DO ONLINE TRADE TRUSTING THE OTHER. @Obaid.. You deserve a medal. @qshahmed,reaper,DaN You guys have no reason to take sh*t like this. Yes you got the money. but that never means someone can play you. You got your money coz you were lucky. God knows what would have happened if obaid was not ther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amul_capri Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 ^KZ and Obaid are the same. Something new over here as well: http://www.IndianVideoGamer.com/forums/index....mp;#entry300292 Not cool. Not cool at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abhi90 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 OT:- sam/vinit put up a special smiley for this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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