HundredProofSam Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 we cant ask members for their personal information....they have a right to their privacy and it isnt necessary information for membership on a forum and i dont see the point of increasing the post count limit to 100 or 150 either....there are always ways to cheat your way to it, the only thing is it will take more time....and members like alekhkhanna who actually got there the right way will be deprived because of a few miscreants regardless of what rules we put in place, an overanxious buyer can and will get scammed....buyers need to be a little more precautious when dealing with others online peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castiel Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 and due to such fraud peoples wont trust new members and wont trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 and i dont see the point of increasing the post count limit to 100 or 150 either....there are always ways to cheat your way to it, the only thing is it will take more time....and members like alekhkhanna who actually got there the right way will be deprived because of a few miscreants regardless of what rules we put in place, an overanxious buyer can and will get scammed....buyers need to be a little more precautious when dealing with others online peace Somebody did read it.. Thanks for understanding Sam.. OT:- Happy B'Day too..!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbhoj74 Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 I think apart from the post count to list a product on GI, there should be other measures to ensure the authenticity of the person. Like maybe a upload of Passport copy (the page with photo & number), or a Voter ID card copy, or anything that can establish a genuine photo ID which can be produced to help the authorities and help them at the time of a fraud. Edit: Privacy is all right for all the members. But this restriction should be made only when someone wants to trade. After all one cannot trade on its own confined island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassins Creed Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 ^ dude not gonna happen.. it ll make things complex.. ppl wud stop trading... and admins n mod need not involve in this its only upto the traders +1 for Sams post Post count doesnt matter.. we cannot trust a member if he has more posts.. for ppl who trade online TRUST is the only thing each one shud do and respect others.. its better to have personal trades in the same city in case of a new member.. one instance like this will make ppl to think twice bfr buyin stuff frm now on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersim Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 I think apart from the post count to list a product on GI, there should be other measures to ensure the authenticity of the person. Like maybe a upload of Passport copy (the page with photo & number), or a Voter ID card copy, or anything that can establish a genuine photo ID which can be produced to help the authorities and help them at the time of a fraud. brotha not everyone has a voterID card or passport. and Sam said this we cant ask members for their personal information....they have a right to their privacy and it isnt necessary information for membership on a forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castiel Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 but personal info shud b made compulsory for tp or there cud also b a third person involved in the trade like a person whom both parties trust and all the transfer and xchange can b done through him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killzone123 Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 just spoke to Deepak on phone he is off to air show, he will comeback and explain the whole story of how he was involved and he got owned in his own cyber cafe.. and you guys will be shockd to hear whose ps3, lbp n mgs was put on sale in TP by avinash and xbox indian.. i am sure he will come up with explanations bro...but is this not such a big coincidence...this whole fraud was going on for more then 2-3weeks...in techenclave the mods made a sticky that dont deal with deepak quite some time back...in the trading feedback of deepak it mentioned that he used multiple id's to boost ratings.... and just yesterday scorpioguy revealed everything...and deepak also came to know about this fraud yesterday....it really looks a big coincidence to me...not pointing fingers at deepak but felt this so mentioning it... scorpioguy talked a lot with me regarding whter to mention deepak's name in this issue or not(since he is a old member)...and we went through a check on deepak's previous trades etc...and really felt something is seriously wrong thats why mentioned his name here...because his name was a big shocker to scorpio and me too... and lastly thanks to everyone who appreciated me...GI is a part of my life and i love this place...its one of the best things that happened in my life.... all i can say we cant stop these things..banning guilty is just a part of this solution...because again they will come with new faces and new identities...the best we can do is take precautions ourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersim Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 but personal info shud b made compulsory for tp or there cud also b a third person involved in the trade like a person whom both parties trust and all the transfer and xchange can b done through him finding a middleman/negotiator for very deal would be ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castiel Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 yup it wud b but atleast u will b able to trade without ny worries which is also imp .. btw nice work killzone ,really appreciate wat u did there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joy Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 but personal info shud b made compulsory for tp or there cud also b a third person involved in the trade like a person whom both parties trust and all the transfer and xchange can b done through him This won't be possible.Online trading on forums is based on trust and a little precaution on your part. I myself have bought so many stuff in the past 1 year mainly on TE and one from here on GI , all on the basis of trust without even seeing the face of any one of those sellers , these things can't be stopped as mentioned by Obaid bro , it will always come in some way or the other. I hope such incidents don't take place anymore , this type of fraud can't be forgiven , strict legal action should be taken against the guilty members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassins Creed Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 If its too tough to trust each other.. thn yes a middleman wud be preferred and he shud be reputed member in the forum, a mod may be! but who do u think will be free to carry out evry deal.. so better off to ebay in case u need to trade safely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HundredProofSam Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 as for deepak's trading post feedback, he has positive feedback from Markettantrik, Godspeed4476, ...AnMoL..., lastAvenger, and STICK3Rboy...these are members i trust and wouldnt hesitate trading with....i also know that its highly unlikely that either of them would have falsely given him positive feedback....so as long as his behavior on GI has been upright, there is no reason (yet) for any action to be taken against him his dealings on TE have nothing to do with his membership on GI....those who feel he cant be trusted, don't deal with him, but if the above members have had good experiences in dealing with him, that's good enough for me peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VelivolusDas Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 thnks 4 posting this scorpio...... this is really helpful who r new to trading....... nd thank GOD tht u got ur money back......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killzone123 Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 as for deepak's trading post feedback, he has positive feedback from Markettantrik, Godspeed4476, ...AnMoL..., lastAvenger, and STICK3Rboy...these are members i trust and wouldnt hesitate trading with....i also know that its highly unlikely that either of them would have falsely given him positive feedback....so as long as his behavior on GI has been upright, there is no reason (yet) for any action to be taken against him his dealings on TE have nothing to do with his membership on GI....those who feel he cant be trusted, don't deal with him, but if the above members have had good experiences in dealing with him, that's good enough for me peace i have seen deepak's feedbacks that mt,gs ,la and others have given...and yea they are good...all i can say to that is its like i make five usernames....4 of my usernames do all kinds of frauds etc...and one username of mine maintain a very good rep in the forums...again its a possibility that it can happen...not saying that deepak did it actually... the basic and most important result of making this open was not to find the guilty or punish them because even if we do again they will come up with new identities... firstly for me it was to educate the other members to be careful in future about trades even if they are trading with a new or old guy...take your precautions and go ahead when you are completely sure about the deal and have the necessary details about the person you dealing with... secondly and lastly it was to make whoever is guilty and even those guys who have such things in mind,think twice before doing all this.to be frank its like people who have such notorious ideas in mind will also learn from this thread and also think of new ways to come up next time...so it we who have to be careful in our dealings so that nothing of this sort happens to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftrunner Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 i think mods shud hav a background check on new members here ,they shud hav all the info regarding them with there address to there phone number and if ny info corresponds they shud b banned , i know this is big but is a need for a forum with more than 3k members Are you insane? This is GI not FBI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dienekes Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Exactly. Trading section is just a part of this great open-to-all forum and not a primary business area of a for-profit organization. As the name itself says, IndianVideoGamer main purpose isn't to buy/sell your games n stuff, it's to get the like-minded Indians together for discussing gaming activities and help grow the network in India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulovski Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 bottom line - we can come up with a lot of ideas - but ppl who want to trade just apply COMMON SENSE. Some pointers to trades going well: 1. If something sounds too good to be true, it usually is. That includes the 360 / PS3 selling at dirt cheap rates. 2. Speak / chat / exchange contact information with the person before finalizing the trade. 3. Demand a pic of the item if you want to see what you're buying. If in the same city go check it out. And lastly it's your own money that you're spending - be careful. GI has some good trades going on and like all trade forums bad trades also happen. Just be a bit extra cautious and the bad trades will not happen. No amount of rules can supplant a bit of caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftrunner Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 @Bulo I agree with most of that. But I still think getting a pic of the item on sale should be compulsary. Its not asking too much from any member selling anything. And I think most people will agree with that. And we should increase the post limit to 100 for TP. If it wont stop scammers it will at least deter spammers. Too many threads get bumped by idiots like ethan (bulo reset his post count please) with two word replies and its annoying as f**k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithuvien Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Geez. Scamsters everywhere these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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