lastAvenger Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 ^ I totally agree with you m8. Sometimes its genuine and sometimes its a planned fraud. The stakes are high. Its just pissing off that people take advantage of the mere trust and create hindrances for other people. In my first post in this thread, i have clearly said the following : IPC Section 418 Cheating with knowledge that wrongful loss may ensue to person whose interest offender is bound to protect Whoever cheats with the knowledge that he is likely thereby to cause wrongful loss to a person whose interest in the transaction to which the cheating relates, he was found, either by law, or by a legal contract, to protect, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to three years, or with fine, or with both. Also this case can be taken under Indian Contracts Act 1872 under Section 17 and 18 which deals with Fraud and Mis-representation. I am gonna suggest to file a class action law suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a5hr1th Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 ^^ OT, are you a lawyer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Leaving that, we are having atleast one spammer a day now bumping up all threads, double posting and making useless comments everywhere to reach 50 posts. Either take some action against these obvious ones or remove the 50 post limit so that we won't atleast have the spams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastAvenger Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 ^ Mods/Admins do take actions by zeroing the posts whenever this member has been found or reported by others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rAgHaV Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Leaving that, we are having atleast one spammer a day now bumping up all threads yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D33P@K Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 never expected to be in such horrible situation....i will try to explain what ever correct facts i know... after going thru the thread all I can say is that, If i had planned something like this I would have done in a much better way…….. I have been in GI since a year now….why the hell would I even think doing such sales after being part of such a big community…. and how would I even think of selling my so called duplicate ID… all this so called scam has been done in my cyber cafe...(the cyber cafe which I have been running from the past 8 yrs....GI member like Assassins Creed and Psywarrior (Anip - Consoul) have visitesd my cyber....yes i am the Damn proprietor ands at this very moment i am right there in my cyber café typing this explanation) 4 guys (including one of my relative called Rakshit are involved in this), they have done done it in such a way that even if something goes wrong the fingers would be pointed at me…. They have seen/watched me using GI for quite some time, whenever I am in my cyber my GI windows always used to be open/logged in, I never used to logout..(I used Mozilla, it saves user IS & Pass)…..they have used some of the PCs to create IDs at my cyber to post their sales…I don’t really know which PS3 they might have used to click those pics….(also chances are that the PS3 being the one which I was using to play MGS4 before I purchased my PS3 as some of them used to game at my house aswell)…… Thanks to my cousin Kiran who has already cleared up some of the refunds, he had taken this initiative deliberately not wanting me to get to know about these issues…. Also thanks to Karthik / scorpioguy. I cant really answer regarding the photos clicked from E71, that is something which I cant answer and which I cant take a guess…… but will surely find it out…and yes as some of u guys said they might have used my cell phone itself….chances are high… TE Deals – don’t really want to answer about TE deals here but I will clear some things out,……yes I had sold my E71 & one LCD monitor to two guys in TE, due to some shipping/financial reasons I was not able to deliver the items & also there was some delay in me refunding the amount to them….few days back i have refunded the full amount to both the buyers…. Since there was a delay in refund the Mods in TE had opened thread asking me to clear up those 2 issues…. Now they are linking up my ID with those duplicate ID as they were accessed from the same IP & Machine… @scorpioguy…yes I was the one who asked for the ICICI account number from Mr. Ramchandra, as Rakshit (the scam head) needed a ICICI account for some online transaction, he rejected when I offered to give my HDFC account details…he was particular about ICICI for all these damn reasons which got to know now…. I have also found out that they have taken money from another guy from GI for a Xbox 360 sale, will get in touch with that guy and try to resolve the issue asap… also if there is any other guy who has to receive money pls let me know…. @Sam/Admins/mods..it is totally up to you guys..u can go ahead and ban me or take whatever action with respect to the GI forum rules & reg…. @Babloos..u don’t have to worry about ur HD Component cable as I have already shipped it.. @Loose_King….i have already shipped gears 1…again u don’t have to be concerned @Gautham…I have already spoken to you, will meet u in mysore tomorrow …. @HSP…I still have ur MGS4 copy, if possible I will meet u in person to handover the copy or pls PM me ur addres I will ship it to u… @Arguid….. I still haven’t shipped the LBP copy which I had borrowed from you, will do t on Monday… I have tried to clear things ups as far as i know….. if there is something which has not been answered pls ask me I will try to clear things up as much as I can… & I know I can’t really convince everyone … I reiterate that I am not involved in this so called scam…. Very disappointed/feeling low & ashamed at what has happened… thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D33P@K Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 @ Sam pls let me know if i can participate in KZ2 steelbook offer or not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killzone123 Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 TE Deals – don’t really want to answer about TE deals here but I will clear some things out,……yes I had sold my E71 & one LCD monitor to two guys in TE, due to some shipping/financial reasons I was not able to deliver the items & also there was some delay in me refunding the amount to them….few days back i have refunded the full amount to both the buyers…. Since there was a delay in refund the Mods in TE had opened thread asking me to clear up those 2 issues…. Now they are linking up my ID with those duplicate ID as they were accessed from the same IP & Machine… well regarding your TE deal...you refunded the money back to the guy whom you sold you E71...and you gave the reason that you lost the job to him...scorpioguy has a pm from that guy because i asked him to find out what went wrong... http://www.IndianVideoGamer.com/forums/index....512&st=9300 http://www.IndianVideoGamer.com/forums/index....512&st=9580 these are the recent purchases you made...very unlikely for a guy who just lost his job...plus as per you ,you own a cyber cafe...well can you please clear it out... Thanks to my cousin Kiran who has already cleared up some of the refunds, he had taken this initiative deliberately not wanting me to get to know about these issues…. Also thanks to Karthik / scorpioguy. such a big thing was on ...your name was involved ..and your cousin kiran never wanted you to know about it...and kept you in dark and went ahead clearing people's dues...you got a awesum cuzin thats all i can say... 4 guys (including one of my relative called Rakshit are involved in this), they have done done it in such a way that even if something goes wrong the fingers would be pointed at me…. They have seen/watched me using GI for quite some time, whenever I am in my cyber my GI windows always used to be open/logged in, I never used to logout..(I used Mozilla, it saves user IS & Pass)…..they have used some of the PCs to create IDs at my cyber to post their sales…I don’t really know which PS3 they might have used to click those pics….(also chances are that the PS3 being the one which I was using to play MGS4 before I purchased my PS3 as some of them used to game at my house aswell)…… you never use to logout...fine...but why you thinking they used your username? because in the next line you are saying they created ids and posted things to sale...well you yourself dont know what you want to say here and most important if they are two or three guys who are using your cyber cafe pc etc etc why they will deposit funds to your cuzin's account...anyone who wants to make money will deposit to a account from where he can withdraw money.... and if your cuzin gave them money by withdrawing from his account....he still did not tell you...its all pretty much coincidences here ....and pretty much confusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D33P@K Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 ^^ yes dude i lost my job almost a month back... and i do not want to answer about those deals in TE...also i was not able to ship the cell phone to thru those non trust able couriers thats the reason i decided not to take risk in shipping.. & just because i have lost my job it dosent mean that i cant purchase any stuffs.....& is there any rules that i cant work & do a business simultaneously..... & also i don't know if they have used my user ID to post in GI...that is something which i have to find out they used my other cousins account because they did not want to reveal their identity..it s simple...i also doubt that they have any bank accounts.. & yes my cousin didn't reveal this issue to me thinking that i will make this a big issue with their family & also he might have thought he could handle this alone...& Kiran (my cousin never gave me money or withdrew money from his account) it would be very difficult for me to answer post by post...i will try to answer all together...let the doubts or Qs comin in... there are also some Questions which i cant really answer & cook up big stories without knowing anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somebody Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 ^^ well said KZ..... btw, regarding ur refunding on the TE website, looks like u took way too long to refund money even if u had ur own set of problems. It does not concern the buyer and it is ur basic duty to send him the item or atleast refund asap. Since u said that u refunded the ppl completely a few days ago and seeing that the TE deal pages u said u'd be sending the monitor on Dec 2nd 2008... it's almost like 2 and a half months for a refund/sale. have u imagined what all the buyer must've gone thru to keep thinking abt whatmight happen to his 6k money ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ΨΨ babloos ΨΨ Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 hey did u courier?/ no dude will do it tomorrow morning..was late from office today..its already packed this was pm from deepak on 12th feb 2009 for me,can u explain this deepak edit:deepak u said lost ur job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D33P@K Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 i am signing off now.. me off to Mysore...will answer all ur queries later tonite or once i come back tomorrow...thank you also to clear things out Kiran informed me to transfer some amount to Karthiks account as he was very busy with his office....(infact we both were wroking for the same company before i lost my job), i did transfer some amount the transfer didnt happen...so he deposited the cash to karthiks account...but i never knew the transfer was for this reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D33P@K Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 no dude will do it tomorrow morning..was late from office today..its already packed this was pm from deepak on 12th feb 2009 for me,can u explain this deepak OMG...whats happening guys.... just because i lost my job does it mean that i cant get into any other company...& this is something very personnel why should reveal all those things to u guys....& office can also mean cyber or another business or work for that matter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechGuitar Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Looking for Deepak's TP feedback he doesn't really seem like a fraud but he does have 1 -ve feedback. I am gonna suggest to file a class action law suit. I totally agree with you. People must do this....othwise these things will keep going on and on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somebody Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 ^^ and all his -ve feedbacks here and on TE are the same thing. He claims to be selling something and takes the money. He then claims to have shipped/shipping the item. then he says some problem and then some problem with the money transfer. coincidence ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D33P@K Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 ^^that neg feedback in TP was changed by the mods...thinking that it is my duplicate ID & i would request you guys not take that drastic step of law suit or something like that...that would turnout to be one big headache for everyone here including me...and also most of the guys have received the refund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killzone123 Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 ^^ yes dude i lost my job almost a month back... and i do not want to answer about those deals in TE...also i was not able to ship the cell phone to thru those non trust able couriers thats the reason i decided not to take risk in shipping.. praveen words btw, regarding ur refunding on the TE website, looks like u took way too long to refund money even if u had ur own set of problems. It does not concern the buyer and it is ur basic duty to send him the item or atleast refund asap. Since u said that u refunded the ppl completely a few days ago and seeing that the TE deal pages u said u'd be sending the monitor on Dec 2nd 2008... it's almost like 2 and a half months for a refund/sale. have u imagined what all the buyer must've gone thru to keep thinking abt whatmight happen to his 6k money ? & just because i have lost my job it dosent mean that i cant purchase any stuffs.....& is there any rules that i cant work & do a business simultaneously..... sure you can buy as many things as you want..but when you have taken money from someone and not sent the thing...and making him wait for 2 1/2months and going yourself on a shopping spree..well thats awesum they used my other cousins account because they did not want to reveal their identity..it s simple...i also doubt that they have any bank accounts.. and your cuzins take big payments like this in his account for people who come to your cyber cafe...and then uses his atm card to withdraw money and giv to them in the morning HIS WITHDRAWALS 10,000 27JAN ATM 11.04 AM 6,100 26 JAN ATM 11.05 AM 100 28 JAN 8.32 AM these are the atm withdrawls from your cuzin account...he does all this without your knowledge for your cyber cafe customers..and then other cuzin kiran goes about refunding money to people without informing you also...so much happening behind your back..it will help if at times you look back and analyze things whats happening..and really good cuzins you got there... there are also some Questions which i cant really answer & cook up big stories without knowing anything banning you or not banning you is not my intention..we had our doubts so put it up here..because no matter how much we ban people even if they are found guilty they will again come with new identities...ban or not that is upto the mods and admin to decide...but people should know what happening and take precautions even if they deal with a old member (new too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rAgHaV Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 ^^ and all his -ve feedbacks here and on TE are the same thing. He claims to be selling something and takes the money. He then claims to have shipped/shipping the item. then he says some problem and then some problem with the money transfer. coincidence ? this is what a guy said on TE lol....Deepakc has come up with a nice way to take out interest free short-term loans one cannot get away by saying i have refunded the money.. I am gonna suggest to file a class action law suit. it is not a small matter imo.. TE 16000 + GI 16000 + DAN n REAPER's 3000 = 35000rs let the law decide who the real culprit is and by the way avinash/xboxindian has presented his threads on TE and GI with those smart replies makes him look like a pro in this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killzone123 Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 ^^that neg feedback in TP was changed by the mods...thinking that it is my duplicate ID & i would request you guys not take that drastic step of law suit or something like that...that would turnout to be one big headache for everyone here including me...and also most of the guys have received the refund well it will be a headache surely but atleast the guilty will be brought to justice...will surely give LA advice to scorpio guy tonite...its not about recieving funds..its the crime that is done here...a fraud...and even if you did not know atleast you too should be happy that next time you yourself will be cautious and the guilty guys behind it will get what they deserve...LA idea is really good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 @Deepak, the lawsuit should be filed so that the crooks who did this never do it again on any forum. If you think what has happened was wrong and you are innocent then you have nothing to fear. It may cause a little inconvience not only to you but also to the members who were cheated. And lawsuit is not a drastic step, its the right one. Of course its for the members who were conned to decide what step they want to take. If you are innocent, I am sure your rep will grow in some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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