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^ I totally agree with you m8. Sometimes its genuine and sometimes its a planned fraud. The stakes are high. Its just pissing off that people take advantage of the mere trust and create hindrances for other people. In my first post in this thread, i have clearly said the following :

 

IPC Section 418

Also this case can be taken under Indian Contracts Act 1872 under Section 17 and 18 which deals with Fraud and Mis-representation.

 

I am gonna suggest to file a class action law suit.

thanks LA for the important info..surely will talk with scorpioguy and let him know about it..and since you know so much about all this will ask him to take your help..i am sure bro you will be there to help him out too with info...

i dont know what action will be taken here or not..but surely scorpio can look in the possibilities of legal action also ...

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well it will be a headache surely but atleast the guilty will be brought to justice...will surely give LA advice to scorpio guy tonite...its not about recieving funds..its the crime that is done here...a fraud...and even if you did not know atleast you too should be happy that next time you yourself will be cautious and the guilty guys behind it will get what they deserve...LA idea is really good...

 

its totally upto u guys i dont really want to force u guys .... u guys should decide what is best...& yes lesson learnt... & only thing i can make usre is that this dosent get repeated again...

 

 

& u have totally mistaken about the withdrawals in the ATM...that was not my cousin Kiran

 

 

@Mods/Admins...if they decide about filing a law suit u can lock this thread....or else i will try to answer maybe tomorrow...

 

 

thanks guys

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thanks LA for the important info..surely will talk with scorpioguy and let him know about it..and since you know so much about all this will ask him to take your help..i am sure bro you will be there to help him out too with info...

i dont know what action will be taken here or not..but surely scorpio can look in the possibilities of legal action also ...

 

yeah you should do that.. just because he(xboxindian) chose the internet as a medium for his theft does not mean that he should be spared..

 

if someone rushes into our house and steals 30000rs will we spare him ? i guess not.. the difference is just that xboxindain wanted to do this from the comfort of his home..

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& u have totally mistaken about the withdrawals in the ATM...that was not my cousin Kiran

deepak...the atm withdrawal that i gave you ..it was done from a atm..and i guess you know to do that you need a debit card....it was done as soon as scorpio money got deposited in your cuzin's account ,whose name is Vishwas R(he said he is your cuzin,his parents said you are his cuzin).

well i guess that answer you....

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deepak...the atm withdrawal that i gave you ..it was done from a atm..and i guess you know to do that you need a debit card....it was done as soon as scorpio money got deposited in your cuzin's account ,whose name is Vishwas R(he said he is your cuzin,his parents said you are his cuzin).

well i guess that answer you....

 

 

yes ur right, it is Vishwas, ..poor fellow he dosent even know who has transferred this money to his account, he has just withdrawn the money and handedover it to Rakshit the Culprit as they have requested it from him.....thats it...lets not involve that guys who has got nothing to do with this...

& i dont really know what date scorpioguy transferred money to his account....

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There is also something called "Due Diligence" which needs to be practiced by a cyber cafe owner specially in today's scenarios. EVen if he is not directly involved, he surely seems to have a multiple count of failure in practicing due diligence which is very dangerous for people in general.

 

Today its mandatory for a cyber cafe to keep a record of its clients using their services/PCs, and here we are talking about a major failure of statutory rules.

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yes ur right, it is Vishwas, ..poor fellow he dosent even know who has transferred this money to his account, he has just withdrawn the money and handedover it to Rakshit the Culprit as they have requested it from him.....thats it...lets not involve that guys who has got nothing to do with this...

& i dont really know what date scorpioguy transferred money to his account....

look deepak i dont have anything against you or your cuzins...but as per you now mentioning that your cuzin did not know what the money was for and he withdrew it and gave it away...and then your other cuzin does all the refunds to all the members...and you dont have any clue about it...such a thing was going on and your cuzins did not inform you...its really a big coincidence all i can say...

 

There is also something called "Due Diligence" which needs to be practiced by a cyber cafe owner specially in today's scenarios. EVen if he is not directly involved, he surely seems to have a multiple count of failure in practicing due diligence which is very dangerous for people in general.

 

Today its mandatory for a cyber cafe to keep a record of its clients using their services/PCs, and here we are talking about a major failure of statutory rules.

absolutely right bro...with so many terrorist attacks on..even the small cybercafe in my area keeps a check on things...you cant enter without proper documents like voter id etc...plus the sites i am going through they keep a check on it...

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Sc0rp!0GuY dude its upto you to decide wat to do... I hope everyone has learnt a lesson and this fraud will make ppl think twice and be very cautious while trading online.. I feel things shud be sorted out among urself than goin legal way since the money is refunded now.. instead of posting everything here u guys speak out n clarify any doubts you have

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Sc0rp!0GuY dude its upto you to decide wat to do... I hope everyone has learnt a lesson and this fraud will make ppl think twice and be very cautious while trading online.. I feel things shud be sorted out among urself than goin legal way since the money is refunded now.. instead of posting everything here u guys speak out n clarify any doubts you have

If i were scorpio i defnitely wouldve reported this to the cops and the legal representatives. Loosing 15k is no joke. Its hard to even imagine myself loosing 15k and the seller jes packing off to another country. its a fricking NIGHTMARE.

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Sc0rp!0GuY dude its upto you to decide wat to do... I hope everyone has learnt a lesson and this fraud will make ppl think twice and be very cautious while trading online.. I feel things shud be sorted out among urself than goin legal way since the money is refunded now.. instead of posting everything here u guys speak out n clarify any doubts you have

yea right it upto scorpio to decide how to move ahead...agree to that

but i disagree to the rest you said bro...first of all as its a big fraud ..i personally would have taken legal action to...just like saha said also above...

and posting here is to make people aware of what things are and make them learn from it also...plus if any person is found guilty and the mods and admins can take whtever steps they feel necessary...

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now that was quite a fraud happened , deepak bhai theres a lot goin on against u ,and i don know wat u can do know to regain the confidence but sumthing neded to b done and that too fast

about that law suit , i dont hav a say in it but if u ask me a law suit wud take a big amount of time and money and than to u hav no surety of wat actions wud b taken , being a law student i know how far civil law suits go and how uncertain they are , and i aslo feel that action against such actions is necessary and sumone has to take the initiative i dont know if nything can b done xcept for a law suit but if u r gonna go for law suit plz eliminate every other option of action to b taken frst and than file the complaint

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^^ yes dude i lost my job almost a month back... and i do not want to answer about those deals in TE...also i was not able to ship the cell phone to thru those non trust able couriers thats the reason i decided not to take risk in shipping..

& just because i have lost my job it dosent mean that i cant purchase any stuffs.....& is there any rules that i cant work & do a business simultaneously.....

& also i don't know if they have used my user ID to post in GI...that is something which i have to find out

they used my other cousins account because they did not want to reveal their identity..it s simple...i also doubt that they have any bank accounts..

& yes my cousin didn't reveal this issue to me thinking that i will make this a big issue with their family & also he might have thought he could handle this alone...& Kiran (my cousin never gave me money or withdrew money from his account)

it would be very difficult for me to answer post by post...i will try to answer all together...let the doubts or Qs comin in... there are also some Questions which i cant really answer & cook up big stories without knowing anything

 

I agree"There is no Rules which say that if a person loses a job he cant buy things". But you cannot keep somebody's money with you when you havent shipped them their item and you your self go on a shopping spree. you should feel ashamed to even argue this matter.

 

this is the PM from hmsalia mentioning that you delayed the money in refunding because you lost your job:

http://www.techenclave.com/members/hmasalia.html

hmasalia user_offline.gif vbmenu_register("postmenu_", true); Overloaded Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Visakhapatnam Age: 25 Posts: 990 reputation_pos.gifreputation_pos.gifreputation_pos.gifreputation_pos.gifreputation_pos.gifreputation_highpos.gifreputation_highpos.gificon1.gif Re: HI Hi!

Got back my money back in full from him.

He had lost his job n hence he was busy lookin for a new one and plus he was tensed with the entire affair.

I hope this clears up everything

 

Kiran himself told that you were the person who mentioned this incident and you gave him my number to contact me. I also have proof that you know that this incident happened. Your uncle(Mr.Ramachandra) mentioned this to you on Sunday and his son(Vishwas.R) also confrimed the same. So dont Bulls**t me saying that you never knew abt this incident.

 

As for the money not being handed over to you by your cousin, thats another crap story. Because Vishwas.R clearly mentioned that he withdrew the money and gave it to DEEP@K. (If ur name is DEEP@K then it means he handed over the money to you) If your saying that Vishwas.R is lying, then i would be more than glad to call Mr.Ramachandra and confrim that information for you and ask him to talk to you also regarding the same.

 

 

i am signing off now.. me off to Mysore...will answer all ur queries later tonite or once i come back tomorrow...thank you

 

also to clear things out Kiran informed me to transfer some amount to Karthiks account as he was very busy with his office....(infact we both were wroking for the same company before i lost my job), i did transfer some amount the transfer didnt happen...so he deposited the cash to karthiks account...but i never knew the transfer was for this reason

Kiran himself told that you were the person who mentioned this incident and you gave him my number to contact me. Now how would this be possible that Kiran did not even mention this to you. Eeither he is lying or you?

 

OMG...whats happening guys.... just because i lost my job does it mean that i cant get into any other company...& this is something very personnel why should reveal all those things to u guys....& office can also mean cyber or another business or work for that matter...

 

When you mean office it means office and not cyber cafe, unless your the kinda person who treats Work is next GODLINESS.

 

 

its totally upto u guys i dont really want to force u guys .... u guys should decide what is best...& yes lesson learnt... & only thing i can make usre is that this dosent get repeated again...

 

 

& u have totally mistaken about the withdrawals in the ATM...that was not my cousin Kiran

 

 

@Mods/Admins...if they decide about filing a law suit u can lock this thread....or else i will try to answer maybe tomorrow...

 

 

thanks guys

 

Well about the lawsuit, i think i will surely go with it after discussing with gsahmed/sameer, DAN, & Reaper. This will not only cause you problems but also to the people who gave their account numbers for the online tranfers. Even if they are innocent, they will be dragged into it because of your ignorance.

 

yes ur right, it is Vishwas, ..poor fellow he dosent even know who has transferred this money to his account, he has just withdrawn the money and handedover it to Rakshit the Culprit as they have requested it from him.....thats it...lets not involve that guys who has got nothing to do with this...

& i dont really know what date scorpioguy transferred money to his account....

 

Because Vishwas.R clearly mentioned that he withdrew the money and gave it to DEEP@K. (If ur name is DEEP@K then it means he handed over the money to you) If your saying that Vishwas.R is lying, then i would be more than glad to call Mr.Ramachandra and confrim that information for you and ask him to talk to you also regarding the same. Vishwas has also mentioned that he doesnot know anybody by the name Kiran. So dont try saying again that you did not receive the money. I will call Vishwas.R to confirm if necessary.

 

In my eyes you are "as Guilty as charged" no matter what any body thinks. What ever you say does not make sense or match with the statemnets put by others*.

 

*=(KIRAN, MR.Ramachandra and Vishwas.R)

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^^^

i think scorpio post clearly proves that deepak knew it long time before..and his replies that he did not about this fraud...and just yesterday when scorpioguy opened this thread..he too suddenly came to knew about it

 

each time deepaks own cuzins and his family confirmed that they gave money to deepak,deepak asked kiran to call scorpioguy...

well i think its time mods and admins look into this seriously

there is enough proof against him...plus his replies that he did not know..his cuzins did not inform him...its all looks false after this revelation by scorpioguy...

a person is a new member or a old member...noone should be above justice and truth...

i really request sam and vinit to look at this seriously and take the necessary actions they feel is right...

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+1 Its pretty clear Deepak is faltering with all this shocking evidence coming to his face. He has not given concrete answers to most questions, and whatever answers he has given are quite vague and dont make sense at all. He keeps using the "I didnot know about it" card. Scorpioguy, if are up for it, go ahead with the lawsuit.

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