ΨΨ babloos ΨΨ Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 f**k thanks to this mofos.tp wont be same again,there is no more value to word TRUST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
вι¢ннσσвαвα Posted February 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Sc0rp!0GuY dude its upto you to decide wat to do... I hope everyone has learnt a lesson and this fraud will make ppl think twice and be very cautious while trading online.. I feel things shud be sorted out among urself than goin legal way since the money is refunded now.. instead of posting everything here u guys speak out n clarify any doubts you have Hey Creed, i know that its upto me to decide what to do and will discuss with respective people who were cheated and decide on whether to file a law suit or an FIR. As for the "I feel things shud be sorted out among urself than goin legal way since the money is refunded now.. instead of posting everything here u guys speak out n clarify any doubts you have" If i had wanted to sort this between ourselves than i would not have Posted a topic like this here. The reason for me to POST was to let everyone know that there are sophisticated Fraudsters out there and we need to be careful & cautious while dealing. I am happy that i became a victim of the Fraud(good i had a friend like Obaid and got the money back or on the contrary i would have felt devastated that i lost such huge amount), cause : If this had not happened to me, i would never have contacted killzone123/Obaid for HELP and we would have never been able to know who the culprit is. which resulted in a chain reaction and we were able to unearth that this Avinash is the same person who is using multiple ID's and has also cheated dan, reaper and gsahmed - TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
вι¢ннσσвαвα Posted February 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 ^^ after scorpios reply pretty much convinced but wont judge nything ,,@scorpio if u need ny help regarding laws and legal opinion i can get u sum help Thanks castiel, will surely let you know if i require any help regarding the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rAgHaV Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Its pretty clear Deepak is faltering with all this shocking evidence coming to his face. He has not given concrete answers to most questions, and whatever answers he has given are quite vague and dont make sense at all. He keeps using the "I didnot know about it" card. Scorpioguy, if are up for it, go ahead with the lawsuit. + 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killzone123 Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 yes ur right, it is Vishwas, ..poor fellow he dosent even know who has transferred this money to his account, he has just withdrawn the money and handedover it to Rakshit the Culprit as they have requested it from him.....thats it...lets not involve that guys who has got nothing to do with this...& i dont really know what date scorpioguy transferred money to his account.... they used my other cousins account because they did not want to reveal their identity..it s simple...i also doubt that they have any bank accounts.. & yes my cousin didn't reveal this issue to me thinking that i will make this a big issue with their family & also he might have thought he could handle this alone...& Kiran (my cousin never gave me money or withdrew money from his account) it would be very difficult for me to answer post by post...i will try to answer all together...let the doubts or Qs comin in... there are also some Questions which i cant really answer & cook up big stories without knowing anything [scorpioguy->]Kiran himself told that you were the person who mentioned this incident and you gave him my number to contact me. I also have proof that you know that this incident happened. Your uncle(Mr.Ramachandra) mentioned this to you on Sunday and his son(Vishwas.R) also confrimed the same. So dont Bulls**t me saying that you never knew abt this incident. As for the money not being handed over to you by your cousin, thats another crap story. Because Vishwas.R clearly mentioned that he withdrew the money and gave it to DEEP@K. (If ur name is DEEP@K then it means he handed over the money to you) If your saying that Vishwas.R is lying, then i would be more than glad to call Mr.Ramachandra and confrim that information for you and ask him to talk to you also regarding the same. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- well deepak one of your cuzins vishwas r himself told he withdrew and gave to deepak your uncle Mr Ramachandra himself told he mentioned it to you on sunday your other cuzin kiran himself told scorpio guy that you were the person who mentioned the incident to you well i think its all points out who the culprit is..and i again say that old member or a new member is not the point..anyone who is found guilty the neccessary action should be taken by the admins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastAvenger Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 I will help as much as i can from myside. I can contribute though research work and general help I will give my number whoever needs help but i am just about to complete my first year of law and i can't practice law else I would have helped in filing suit if i had my license but that is still 4 years down the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shantz Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 I am also of the opinion that Deepak does not have a valid alibi. In the online world, you cannot have a doubt when money is related, and in this case, I can't see any kind of doubt so far. Everything seems just too far fetched. I doubt that even a crappy bollywood director would use this story in the most crappiest of his movies, because even rickshaw wallas would see through it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shantz Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 BTW, I have a suggestion to curb a "bit" of this scamming menace. You can keep any kind of post limit / other limit to allow someone to join the TP but no one should be allowed to "sell" things before they "buy". Anyone willing to sell somthing on GI should have a minimum number of "buying" feedback points couple with a time limit before being allowed to sell. An example policy would contain these 3 rules: 1. Minimum 50 posts to post in TP. 2. Minimum 3 buying feeback points before being allowed to sell. 3. Minimum membership of 3 months before being allowed to sell. These might not deter a scam if being committed by some old member but atleast they would have to do it form their real ID rather than just creating a new one overnight, filling up their quota of min. posts (any number, does not matter) in a week or so and then go on a scamming spree. Moreover, another side point. We've got to have a min. turn around time thing for payment and shipping. e.g. the item absolutely MUST reach the buyer within x days (a week?) of payment confirmation. If not, total refund should be in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killzone123 Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 I will help as much as i can from myside. I can contribute though research work and general help I will give my number whoever needs help but i am just about to complete my first year of law and i can't practice law else I would have helped in filing suit if i had my license but that is still 4 years down the line well bro..even your little help will be good enough research is i think the most important ...thanks for the offer I am also of the opinion that Deepak does not have a valid alibi. In the online world, you cannot have a doubt when money is related, and in this case, I can't see any kind of doubt so far. Everything seems just too far fetched. I doubt that even a crappy bollywood director would use this story in the most crappiest of his movies, because even rickshaw wallas would see through it... absolutely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satanicsaint Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 I feel things shud be sorted out among urself than goin legal way since the money is refunded now.. instead of posting everything here u guys speak out n clarify any doubts you have Though you have a right to your opinion, its still f**ked up. Apologies for the profanity but its to that extent I don't agree with it. This whole issue is just not about money, it involves multiple frauds and will have significant implications on trading post and so it needs to come out. I have been going through the posts and still not very clear how this could have happened. Lot of layering and loose ends in the chain of events, maybe that's how( and that's why) it was planned in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godspeed4476 Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 BTW, I have a suggestion to curb a "bit" of this scamming menace. You can keep any kind of post limit / other limit to allow someone to join the TP but no one should be allowed to "sell" things before they "buy". Anyone willing to sell somthing on GI should have a minimum number of "buying" feedback points couple with a time limit before being allowed to sell. An example policy would contain these 3 rules:1. Minimum 50 posts to post in TP. 2. Minimum 3 buying feeback points before being allowed to sell. 3. Minimum membership of 3 months before being allowed to sell. These might not deter a scam if being committed by some old member but atleast they would have to do it form their real ID rather than just creating a new one overnight, filling up their quota of min. posts (any number, does not matter) in a week or so and then go on a scamming spree. Moreover, another side point. We've got to have a min. turn around time thing for payment and shipping. e.g. the item absolutely MUST reach the buyer within x days (a week?) of payment confirmation. If not, total refund should be in order. there is no need for making any new changes to the rules, this incident is a classic example of how even the best of the members can thug another member, bringing any more changes will not make the system foolproof. i agree a bad incident has happened, but there is no need to punish other new members just coz of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMeFiraz Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 i too have a bad trading experience with deepak guys he told me that he will buy little big planet from me and kept me on hold for two weeks and then told me that if any one else is interested then sell ti to them so i sold it to supersim after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
вι¢ннσσвαвα Posted February 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 I will help as much as i can from myside. I can contribute though research work and general help I will give my number whoever needs help but i am just about to complete my first year of law and i can't practice law else I would have helped in filing suit if i had my license but that is still 4 years down the line Sure mate as Obaid mentioned it will be helpful whatever little help we can get. I am also of the opinion that Deepak does not have a valid alibi. In the online world, you cannot have a doubt when money is related, and in this case, I can't see any kind of doubt so far. Everything seems just too far fetched. I doubt that even a crappy bollywood director would use this story in the most crappiest of his movies, because even rickshaw wallas would see through it... Well if there are people with no brains to watch, then the director will surley run this story for 100 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shantz Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 there is no need for making any new changes to the rules, this incident is a classic example of how even the best of the members can thug another member, bringing any more changes will not make the system foolproof.i agree a bad incident has happened, but there is no need to punish other new members just coz of this. This is not about "punishing" *new* members. This is about saving ALL the members from another incident like this. I don't think deepak (if he was indeed the main culprit) would have pulled it off from his main ID if he didn't have any other option. A change is not a bad thing. And incidents are what force a change. If everything goes on hunky-dory, then there is no need to change. But rules indeed need to be atleast re-looked at, in the aftermath of an incident so that it doesn't recur. For many people this is an issue just because the money involved is in 10s of Ks. But there are a lot of students here on GI, for whom 1.5 k they paid out for a game holds much more value than someone else's 15 K. If we are just going to consider not "punishing" new members, then why do we even have a 50 post count limit. Lets remove it altogether and be done with it. After all, its just the buyer's headache to confirm everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rana Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 i was not too sure if deepak was involved in this until reading scorpioguy's post.........dude i say take permission from the mods and proceed legally :) ......whoever responsible should be punished...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 ^+1 I really dont see why not getting access to TP for a bit longer is so much of a big deal. I think most new members here are only here to access the TP and not to be part of the community otherwise. Everyone keeps cribbing about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killzone123 Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 ^+1 I really dont see why not getting access to TP for a bit longer is so much of a big deal. I think most new members here are only here to access the TP and not to be part of the community otherwise. Everyone keeps cribbing about this. right bro... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castiel Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 c i came to know of this community as a trading after a while i get to know about this community being a gaming other than trading , and peoples dont like such rule cause they restrict their action ,,,i put up my frst offer long after 50 post but that 50 post always felt like restriction but if a person seriously give his contribution to the community 50 post count is nthing and the members here support a lot so the effort u put in community pays of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 ^There is no restriction. Not getting access to TP is not a major restriction. You can always buy something. And I dont get it! Cant you sell off the item later on when you've made a rep for yourself on the forum. No one is judging you castiel but new members should understand that these steps are taken to help every member including them to be protected to some small extent. The smallest efforts in the right direction will help everyone. At the end of the day, GI is surely not responsible for TP as its at the discretion of the trading parties, so they have the option of not changin rules at all, but I feel some changes are necessary. I will never buy the "new members feel restricted" card, IMO strictly. A lot of rules to ensure safety exist at many places which cause a lot of inconvenience to people, but they're there to help us only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castiel Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 buddy read the full post the bottom line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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