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2 hours ago, Joe Cool said:

I don't see any reason for Sam not to handle over things to Ninja or some active admin as he is busy with other things and barely ever posts on forum. If Ninja wasn't active, god knows how long or if at all the forum would have recovered after this. 

Ask him how many times I've suggested this to him. As recently as last week.

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Just now, HundredProofSam said:

Neither of those is supported by AWS. They only have the option of adding cards. No third-party services

 

I didn't mean they would go to AWS directly. Being a Pvt Ltd company, you must have a bank account for the company. They can go there, and then can be used for payments, giveaways etc. As it is, being a Pvt Ltd means you have to go through auditing etc via a CA, filing statements and all. 

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26 minutes ago, Joe Cool said:

Last, what is the solution for the trading/traders? There were some ongoing disputes with new members and now due to data loss, they are completely gone. The feedbacks are also gone. 

 

Can admins manually increase feedbacks? If so people who have lost their feedbacks can ask to reinstate their feedback on giving a proof ( email, tapatalk notifications, etc.). This is just a suggestion. 

 

Also can the forum be rented for a longer period of time? Members can contribute a little and we can rent it for a longer period so it doesnt crash in future. And also there is no reason for a single person (HPS) to keep paying for a service all of us are using. 

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39 minutes ago, G33kgamer said:

@HundredProofSam

 

Ditch AWS, go with Vultr. It will run @ max $20 plan and even less and have double performance of aws instance. It has integrated one click backup and snapshots. AWS requires config and is not good, so much overcharge. I can provide free assistance if needed.

 

you're welcome to move/migrate/maintain it. I'd like to see double the performance of AWS at lesser price. 

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Yes, members can and should donate a little to keep the forum alive. I agree with @Mizanurification.

If someone can help in other technical ways rather than by paying money, that should also be welcomed. It is a community and people should share the responsibilities, if they are capable.

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3 hours ago, Mizanurification said:

Can admins manually increase feedbacks? If so people who have lost their feedbacks can ask to reinstate their feedback on giving a proof ( email, tapatalk notifications, etc.). This is just a suggestion.

 

Too much drama, and then again no cross-verification without threads. =/

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23 minutes ago, sathyabhat said:

it's a t2.micro instance + t2.small Aurora RDS

 

Please check https://www.vultr.com/products/high-frequency-compute/

 

$24 plan would be enough. Geekbench 11149 | Should be good for 100K monthly visits.

 

t2 micro Geekbench: 3216

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/790238

 

Even the next plan @ $48, geekbench: 15390   will be massively cheaper than current EWS $100. 

 

Vultr has free Plesk upto 3 domains, we can use that so the server will be easy to maintain security wise.

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Please check https://www.vultr.com/products/high-frequency-compute/
 
$24 plan would be enough. Geekbench : 11149 | Should be good for 100K monthly visits.
 
t2 micro Geekbench: 3216
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/790238
 
Even the next plan @ $48, geekbench: 15390   will be massively cheaper than current EWS $100. 
 
Vultr has free Plesk upto 3 domains, we can use that so the server will be easy to maintain security wise.

I’m not sure what sort of server resources IVG is using now but before we shifted to AWS, our host was unable to handle the forum activity. We used to have frequent 500 server errors. After the switch to AWS we haven’t had that issue.


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2 minutes ago, HundredProofSam said:


I’m not sure what sort of server resources IVG is using now but before we shifted to AWS, our host was unable to handle the forum activity. We used to have frequent 500 server errors. After the switch to AWS we haven’t had that issue.


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Vultr is not shared hosting, it is KVM based cloud server just like AWS and its tier scalable like AWS.

 

https://www.vpsbenchmarks.com/compare/ec2_vs_vultr : Refer: ops/hour

 

 

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1 hour ago, G33kgamer said:

 

Please check https://www.vultr.com/products/high-frequency-compute/

 

$24 plan would be enough. Geekbench 11149 | Should be good for 100K monthly visits.

 

t2 micro Geekbench: 3216

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/790238

 

Even the next plan @ $48, geekbench: 15390   will be massively cheaper than current EWS $100. 

 

Vultr has free Plesk upto 3 domains, we can use that so the server will be easy to maintain security wise.

 

you need to understand the workload before you throw random numbers based random metrics. The geekbench numbers are useless because the forum isn't CPU heavy, it's IO Heavy. I looked up CloudWatch metrics, the average CPU utilization is less than 15%. 

 

There's a reason we have separate managed database and compute instance: the compute instance is quite cheap (less than $8 per month) and the heavy work(and expense) is done by the managed database. The forum is extremely database heavy and the IO workload choked the web server and as a result we ended up with 500 errors. And IVG was on a dedicated server(which IIRC cost 2x our current monthly bill), not a shared host.

 

I don't know how "plesk 3 domains" will be easy to maintain security wise, please enlighten me. And like I said, if you're interested in taking over running the servers and maintaining them, I'd be more than happy.

 

Funfact:, IVG does 150k+ views daily with half of it being absorbed by cloudflare with over 2Gigs of bandwidth. 

 

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And IVG was on a dedicated server, not a shared host.

20 minutes ago, sathyabhat said:

The forum is extremely database heavy and the IO workload choked the web server and as a result we ended up with 500 errors. And IVG was on a dedicated server, not a shared host.

 

 

 

 

I bet that choking would be because of the HDD in the dedicated server in those days. So, do you think that we would get similar choking in NVME SSDs?

 

But, I understand your choice, if separate DB server is needed we won't save much.

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And IVG was on a dedicated server, not a shared host.
I bet that choking would be because of the HDD in the dedicated server in those days. So, do you think that we would get similar choking in NVME SSDs?
 
But, I understand your choice, if separate DB server is needed we won't save much.

Not a dedicated server but a VPS, which if I’m not mistaken is somewhere between shared and dedicated hosting. And yeah we were paying double of what we’re paying AWS so I’m happy with AWS. Just wish it was more user friendly.

For those suggesting a donation option: I don’t mind that but we just need to figure out where those donations go, how those are then used to pay the website costs, what happens to the excess money and what the tax implications are.

If anyone has does this before, please share details.

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^Since you already have an IVG account that is used to pay bills, we can credit directly to it. Money coming in, as long as it is spent for running the website and is used as an expense for IVG, there should be no tax implications, as you won't be generating any income.

 

Excess money: use it for longer renewals, or, the "crowd funding" thread can be updated to reflect if you've reached your monthly/yearly requirement, and members can stop contributing till the time the thread is updated again. 

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11 hours ago, HundredProofSam said:


Not a dedicated server but a VPS, which if I’m not mistaken is somewhere between shared and dedicated hosting. And yeah we were paying double of what we’re paying AWS so I’m happy with AWS. Just wish it was more user friendly.

For those suggesting a donation option: I don’t mind that but we just need to figure out where those donations go, how those are then used to pay the website costs, what happens to the excess money and what the tax implications are.

If anyone has does this before, please share details.

 

Besides donations, other option we could look at is ad and subscription based. People who don't mind donating/paying can subscribe for the website that doesn't have ads while the regular users will have ads around. NeoGAF has had ads for the longest time and I think it is fine as long as we don't over do it. Now I think both NeoGAF and ResetERA started subscription models. 

 

Ultimately it is your call as to which route you'd want to take. I feel the ad model will generate a stable income but donations, members will do few times initially but down the line you'd have to ask when needed. 

 

Hope it is a valid suggestion. 

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