KnackChap Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 There's no doubt that the Xbox 360 seems to have more technical issues than a junky used car. With that said, an old, existing error is now rapidly becoming a not-so-phantom menace. From a personal standpoint, it's really amazing to see how well Microsoft's Xbox 360 console sells on the market. Granted, the Wii console from Nintendo kicks it around financially, the numerous hardware issues Microsoft has had to face should lead one to believe that the consumer market would actually stray away from the faulty equipment. Strangely enough, that hasn't happened, and from a sales point-of-view, the gaming community prefers the Xbox 360 over its same-level adversary (with less technical faults, no less), the PlayStation 3. That's based on numbers, of course. To add on top of the Red Ring of Death issue and lawsuits stemming from the company's supposed knowledge of faulty hardware before the initial shipment, Microsoft recently faced huge problems once it released the new interface, the NXE. Additionally, an older error--dubbed E74 due to an error code displayed on the screen-- has rapidly increased in number since the release of NXE back in November 2008; the two may or may not be related. On the technical end, the E74 error stems from the integrated HDMI: the solder on the ANA/HANA scaling chip apparently comes loose. Because it's an internal issue, gamers aren't aware of the problem until snow or lines begin to cross the screen. The one red light in the lower right-hand quadrant eventually comes on. Many Xbox 360 owners have resolved the issue by wrapping pennies in electrical tape and weighing the ANA/HANA down, however that's not an official fix and will void the console's warranty. So why would the new Xbox 360 interface aggravate the HDMI hardware problem? According to an analysis done by Joystiq (link), it's speculated that the entire system is being taxed by the NXE or, more importantly, Microsoft may have changed the system diagnostics test to report a Red Ring of Death error as E74 instead. The latter is probably unlikely, however if that were the case, gamers inflicted with Error E74 would thus have to cough up more than $100 for the repair if the error occurs later than 12 months after purchase, as Error E74 is not covered under the 3-year extended warranty set in place for the Red Ring of Death malfunction. Posing the Red Ring of Death error as E74 would save Microsoft millions. Still, a Google Trends chart clearly shows an immediate increase in hardware failure since November 2008 (link), even more so since October 2008, so the problem isn't imaginary, it isn't fiction. The hardware revisions made to the overall Xbox 360 design have thus not addressed the current Error E74 issue. At one point, Microsoft even said it was looking into the matter. However just recently, Joystiq received this official statement: E74 is a general hardware error on Xbox 360 indicated by a single red flashing light in the Xbox Ring of Light and an error message visible on the television. This error is unrelated to the three flashing red lights error and there is not a single root cause. We encourage anyone who receives this error to contact Xbox Customer support through www.xbox.com/support or 1-800-4-MY-XBOX. The majority of customers who own Xbox 360 consoles continue to have a terrific experience from their first day, and continue to, day in and day out. By the statement, it is obvious that Microsoft is avoiding any public announcements regarding Error E74, however the company will ultimately have to face the thousands of consumers already complaining. And, if Joystiq isn't exaggerating the consumer feedback, it looks as if more will continue to pour in. "When we recently posted about the Xbox 360's E74 error and asked for your input, we weren't prepared for the staggering response we'd receive," reads Joystiq. "Within a few hours, we had dozens of emails from readers like you who had experienced this particular hardware failure (typically caused, according to unofficial web reports, by a loose scaling chip). It was surprising to touch such a nerve, but what really knocked us for a loop was what we found when we started compiling the data sent to us." While the Xbox 360 does have a great library of games, consumers may want to weigh the hardware technical issues against Sony's PlayStation 3. Of course, although all three current consoles suffer hardware issues to some degree, the Xbox 360 oozes with hardware design failures, feeling almost as if the console was hastily thrown together rather than designed with the consumer in mind. Stay tuned for more information regarding Error E74, as this problem will more than likely not be resolved for some time. http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Xbox-360-E74-E...,news-3665.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithuvien Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Poeple buy the 360 because: 1) Its cheap 2) It can be modded, thereby allowing the user to play pirated games. 3) Western audiences associate more easily with a Microsoft product, speically if it si churning out games like Gears of War and Halo. As for the hardware failiures, they have supreme confidence in MS that it will replace the faulty consoles, which it has more or less done, till date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMNTR Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 ^ Pretty much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaiTaaNi billi Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Microsoft may have changed the system diagnostics test to report a Red Ring of Death error as E74 instead. The latter is probably unlikely, however if that were the case, gamers inflicted with Error E74 would thus have to cough up more than $100 for the repair if the error occurs later than 12 months after purchase, as Error E74 is not covered under the 3-year extended warranty set in place for the Red Ring of Death malfunction. Posing the Red Ring of Death error as E74 would save Microsoft millions. :cry: mofo's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Batman_ Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 oh no, M$ has done it again we can expect to more new errors in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffMonkey Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 LOL! if they made it so that the RROD problem shows up as a E74 error... theyre basically saving themselves so much cash... and its soo under the belt lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftrunner Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Still, a Google Trends chart clearly shows an immediate increase in hardware failure since November 2008 (link), even more so since October 2008, so the problem isn't imaginary, it isn't fiction. The hardware revisions made to the overall Xbox 360 design have thus not addressed the current Error E74 issue. At one point, Microsoft even said it was looking into the matter. However just recently, Joystiq received this official statement: Wow so they ran a google trends search and declared that the hardware failure is on the increase. Thats very reliable and professional. BTW here are the top google trends for today. Make of them what you will and write your own "expert report" on them. No joke, they are copied and pasted direct from the site. 1. old king clancy 2. missingmoney.com 3. missing money 4. bulletproof clothing 5. regina lasko 6. ted mosby is a jerk 7. please touch museum 8. sarah paulson 9. paper cuts 10. canadian sex acts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffMonkey Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 ^^ yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftrunner Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Hmm Canadian sex acts are on the increase. Damn those Canadians. Always getting some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doobz Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 i HAD THIS ERROR like 7 months ago , its cuz ure mother board get damaged and sm of its components do not get and power. I have only encountered this once and that too was the replacement i got. I guess it got dmged in transit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doobz Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Hmm Canadian sex acts are on the increase. Damn those Canadians. Always getting some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Hellsboy_ Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 *Sigh* F**k you microsoft.If only the 360 didnt have live One thing is true for 360 lovers.360 is like the hot bitch in your college.She has flaws yes,but damn she is sexy so we keep going back to her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffMonkey Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 *Sigh* F**k you microsoft.If only the 360 didnt have live One thing is true for 360 lovers.360 is like the hot bitch in your college.She has flaws yes,but damn she is sexy so we keep going back to her so you agree that you wanna stick it in your xbox360? cos if i remember correctly...theres an RRoD manual somewhere that teaches you how to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithuvien Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Take care to unplug the XBOX before you do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Hellsboy_ Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Man I just creamed at the thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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