Sa1nT_SoLd1eR Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 the Media houses are back to their regular business, celebrating christmas after ruining a family, I don't know why the hell is the governement responding to these media houses, at best these people only cater to the elites of Indian Society, and at the best are onlycatering to 4% of the population, and that too only those living in Metro cities like Delhi and Mumbai. Most of these guys protesting on streets belong to rich families, and want to run the Indian government American style.... they are far away from ground realities and problems of the poor. The Indian Government has really failed at protecting the democracy of this country, by giving undue weightage to people who donot deserve it, and just because they have the means to broadcast the whole thing as if it respresents the whole of India, does not mean what they are saying is right. There should be a sever crackdown on these Media houses, and they should be held accountable alongwith opportunistic leaders like Sushma Swaraj and Sheila Dixit for the death of this constable. Even the son of the Constable is holding the crowd responsible for his father's death, and none of these bloody Hippies are coming out to even offer a few words of sympathy towards them. To hell with leaders like these, and to hell with the so called 'FREE' and 'UNBIASED' Media of this country. I hope you all rot in helll !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 The protest was call of the hour....it was need to wake the government and there were genuinely young college going students specially girls who were protesting for their safety and more stringent law and punishment for rapes...until some criminal and polticial parties started getting involved in this big time. The role of Delhi police and leaders and their attitude have been so pathetic all these years that people's anger had to erupt at one time....so blaming everything on protestors is stupidty and just overacting....they have the right to protest and they did with nothing more than candles and banners...It was all over the tv but now if criminals start taking advantage of it ...what is the fault of all the protestors ....those people involved in killing that police have been caught and hope the officer does get justice as well.sad to see that the even peaceful protests in this country can only result in violence and death.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Tomar's death: Kejriwal accuses cops of falsely framing AAPhttp://news.oneindia.in/2012/12/25/tomars-death-kejriwal-accuses-cops-falsely-framing-aap-1120224.html And its already started .... big politics games being played over this death. Congress and Delhi police will try to make public and other political parties look bad so blame them...with such pathethic people here in ploticial system and administration ..... you can never say what level they can stoop to score points....how much truth is it that to his death...god only knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sa1nT_SoLd1eR Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 The protest was neutral only for the first 3 days, as soon as the media flamed the fire with ridiculous debates with Biased Arnab Goswami and Rahul Kanwal demanding Death Penalty without looking at the pros and cons, and soon the whole of media was in a rat race to make their buck out of this issue. On the fourth day BJP RSS started putting out their political outfits into motion, with ABVP joining in, and then Bhagat singh kranti sena and so many more, all of which are affiliated to the BJP -RSS combine. They politicised this whole issue, and wanted to create a law and order situation for gheraoing the centre government on this issue, just to score their political brownie points, and the BJP sponsored channels like AjjTak, Times NOW, Headlines Today were hand in glove working to incite the mob, with periodic flashes of messages on these channels, of things being said by LOMBDI"s like Sushma Swaraj and Sheila Dixit. Kejriwal also pushed in his MANGO MEN to get his pound of flesh of this whole thing. After the 4th day it was nomore a elite student movement, but had taken a political face, and media houses and leaders are back into the comfort of their own houses after ruining a family, leaders like Sushma Swaraj has nothing to say today, and yesterday they were doing press conferences from presiden't house. Sheila Dixit was busy crippling the police by asking resignation of CP in such a critical stage Sushma Swaraj was busy claiming the sole leadership over the whole of youth and asking police to not resort to lathi charge. JUST TOTAL BS. In a city with over 4 crore population and only a few thousand cops, how in the hell can anyone expect to see 0% crime rate. It's just naive to even think like that, and just goes on to show the level of immaturity that exists among youngsters of today. You want to change the country first change your ownselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 The protest was neutral only for the first 3 days, as soon as the media flamed the fire with ridiculous debates with Biased Arnab Goswami and Rahul Kanwal demanding Death Penalty without looking at the pros and cons, and soon the whole of media was in a rat race to make their buck out of this issue. On the fourth day BJP RSS started putting out their political outfits into motion, with ABVP joining in, and then Bhagat singh kranti sena and so many more, all of which are affiliated to the BJP -RSS combine. They politicised this whole issue, and wanted to create a law and order situation for gheraoing the centre government on this issue, just to score their political brownie points, and the BJP sponsored channels like AjjTak, Times NOW, Headlines Today were hand in glove working to incite the mob, with periodic flashes of messages on these channels, of things being said by LOMBDI"s like Sushma Swaraj and Sheila Dixit. Kejriwal also pushed in his MANGO MEN to get his pound of flesh of this whole thing. After the 4th day it was nomore a elite student movement, but had taken a political face, and media houses and leaders are back into the comfort of their own houses after ruining a family, leaders like Sushma Swaraj has nothing to say today, and yesterday they were doing press conferences from presiden't house. Sheila Dixit was busy crippling the police by asking resignation of CP in such a critical stage Sushma Swaraj was busy claiming the sole leadership over the whole of youth and asking police to not resort to lathi charge. JUST TOTAL BS. In a city with over 4 crore population and only a few thousand cops, how in the hell can anyone expect to see 0% crime rate. It's just naive to even think like that, and just goes on to show the level of immaturity that exists among youngsters of today. You want to change the country first change your ownselves. 30% of the securiity forces in this country is used for VVIP-VIP security...that is hell of a lot...now nobody is talking about 0% crime rate ..that may never happen...but rape is something that has gone beyong limit and the lack of proper justice after rape is also what incites people more... I do agree that media though plays a poor role here...they do intesify many such situations and like i said politcal parties here did took undue advantange of it..and made this protest look bad and ugly....it was a people's movement and they knew it could start something into bigger so all went and tried to take advantage of it..from ruiling party that can stoop to any level to oppositions who are sailing in same boat. Sushma swaraj is stupid ...sheila is just trying to look sorry for it and all..they all want to wash their hand of this as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sa1nT_SoLd1eR Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 The Media + politician nexus is pretty clear to all intellectual Indians, everyone know which channels are sponsored by BJP and which one's are affiliated by Congress. But the way they have been constantly subverting the democratic procedures and institutions of this country is just shameful, and here you get leaders like Sushma Swaraj asking for special session just to score their brownie points, and shiela Dixit trying to blame the CP and crippling him in such a critical situation, and media just scheming to get their profit share out of the whole thing. it is just BS. I am all for better policing, but every sane individual knows that lighting candles in streets and shouting from the top of their voices is not going to anything. One has to change his own self, and live his life according to greater higher ideals, and only then hope for a change in society. Instead of lighting candles in streets like a bunch of retards, they should be lighting these candles in the homes of poor and using their education to make more Indians educated and literate. I mean who are the rapists, the murderers, are they coming from Mars ???? they are coming from amongst us only, while i was there at INDIA gate on Tuesday day I asked a few of them, will they go and teach poor people's children in small villages and far away places, and all of these candle light holders were quiet. Just hypocrites of the first order. These are the one's who are the first to ask for transfers to their hometowns, since their spouse or elderly parents need them. No one comes forward then .... Then what in the hell is the need of these protests, which end up in ruining a family and provide no concrete results whatsoever .... only leads to bloody politics by opportunistic leaders of this country !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 The Media + politician nexus is pretty clear to all intellectual Indians, everyone know which channels are sponsored by BJP and which one's are affiliated by Congress. But the way they have been constantly subverting the democratic procedures and institutions of this country is just shameful, and here you get leaders like Sushma Swaraj asking for special session just to score their brownie points, and shiela Dixit trying to blame the CP and crippling him in such a critical situation, and media just scheming to get their profit share out of the whole thing. it is just BS. I am all for better policing, but every sane individual knows that lighting candles in streets and shouting from the top of their voices is not going to anything. One has to change his own self, and live his life according to greater higher ideals, and only then hope for a change in society. Instead of lighting candles in streets like a bunch of retards, they should be lighting these candles in the homes of poor and using their education to make more Indians educated and literate. I mean who are the rapists, the murderers, are they coming from Mars ???? they are coming from amongst us only, while i was there at INDIA gate on Tuesday day I asked a few of them, will they go and teach poor people's children in small villages and far away places, and all of these candle light holders were quiet. Just hypocrites of the first order. You being very impratical here...no offence.....You want every day people to leave their jobs/education their livelihood to go and teach poor children...though a noble cause but you cannot expect them to do this ...it is not possible also for them...the rapists are among us ...so are the terrosits ...yet they are brutally killed by americans ...why because they dont want to let them go unpunished...exactly same these people are asking to not let them go unpunished and make stricter law to improve situation here...thats it...people here has to change that is true but on individual level you cannot expect everyone to become saint .....there will always be assholes like those rapists,criminals who killed the officer,politicians the biggest mc's int his country....and expecting to change themselves is asking for a miracle...only through sheer will of such moments and voice of people can there be more attention from the leaders here to people's plight. Tell me just one thing.....what was the government exactly doing all over the years when rape after rape was happening?? nothing...and there were no protest also...now with this particular rape case they have started to put plansfor fast track court,police are been pressured to do more,more stringent law is to come etc....people voice and anger can only bring these people to get them do their work..otherwise there chalta hai attitude will lead us to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Saint, take a chill pill dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sa1nT_SoLd1eR Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Here is a glimpse of the impractical ..... Police to people ratio in India 1 : 1000 National average, state wise average is even worse Indian economy is roughly 2 Trillion, USA economy is 14 Trillion, 7 times that of India Indian Population is around 1.3 Billion, USA's Population around 33 Crores and i can go on and on .... JUST see at the disparity, this is exactly what I am saying about the immaturity of the so called educated literate youths of this country, there is literally no comparison and therefore to expect Indian government to deliver like USA is just plain ridiculous Now a2nd day most of those gathered at India gate were students, and I asked people who were going to look for jobs in the near future, and noone could even say it downright 100% that they are ready to sacrifice their pleasures for serving the country in a better way. This is not the noble cause I am talking about, this is the national reality, 2000 schools were shut down yesterday in Punjab because less than 20 children were enrolling in such schools, and no teacher was ready to come an teach in schools located at villages.... over 80,000 teaching jobs are lying vacant in UP, and there are literally no takers for these, and those who do want to take these jobs, don't even know the abcd of teaching in the first place. Isn't it the duty of the so called Elites of Delhi and other major cities to impart education to people who don't have the means to do so., but all they can do is light candles in streets. Then how do you expect this country to change, and that is why i call these people a bunch of retarded hypocrites, because all they can do is light candles on streets instead of lighting up the lives of their fellow citizens !!! WHat all these violent protests have led to is ruining of a family, assurances by government, who know what the ground reality is, and they know that is all they can do with the resources at hand, with over 4 crore cases pending in Indian courts what else can the government of the day do, judges are alredy burdened to extremes in India all this has only led to opportunistic politicians earning their brownie points, and the Bastard Media houses after killing a policeman is back to their jingle bell as usual !!! That's all this protest has done !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloy Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 ^you are right.Development can be done only by the citizens of the country.Government can not do it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 So basically there should be protesting about corruption and crime and in stead teach in the schools. Because protesting makes them hypocrites. Hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sa1nT_SoLd1eR Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Nope what it means is that instead of wasting time and energy into useless candle marches, and violent protests people should change their own attitude and invest this time and energy into lighting up the lives of the undeserved of this country, even if you can't go to far off places, then atleast try to change your ownself and put your own house in order, instead of ruining someone else's just for the heck of protesting !!!! That is all I am trying to say here !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanjosh Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 They're not protesting against poverty. They're protesting against the unsafe environment. It's the governments job to make sure every woman is safe ie women of ALL income groups. I don't know how you brought the issue of poverty and teaching in village schools here. That's not what the protest is about. edit; Also, its not as useless as you think. It only becomes useless if they suddenly stop and lose all interest ie what happened with the Anna Hazare thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 The rape victim was trying to do exactly that, studying Para-med, so that she can help so many in the way she can. She wasn't studying so she can be part of a candle march, one day. And what she got? Your rant is solely based on assumption that everyone is trying to draw mileage out of this...doing this cuz they have some vested interests Or they want to show their elitism. If people would have thought this way no one would have contrIbuted in Indian freedom struggle. I am sure there were hundreds of other pressing issues back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sa1nT_SoLd1eR Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 There is a clear line between practical and Impractical, no-one is ready to change themselves and are ready to hop on the first chance to flagg the government and everything else. Anyone with a sane mind, would know the practical aspect of what is possible and not possible. With over 4 crore cases pending in courts, people expecting to fast track every rape case, is just ridiculous and impractical !!! the anti- corruption movement was a political movement from the get-go, everyone who was trying to get this fact out in the public got flagged, including on this forum (check the Anna Hazaare thread) in this section only. I only feel angry and sad for the family that lost their sole earning hand just because of the collective stupidity of the hypocrite educated youths of this country, politiicans, as well as the so called 'Free' and 'unbiased' media houses, and all this has only led to ruining of a family, and removing a father's protection from the heads of 3 studying youths, who now have to live their whole life as a consequence of this same hypocricy. I know what the odds are for me getting any headway into getting this point across, as I have had first hand experience of that in many cases both on and off forums including the so called Anti- corruption movement !!! i don't know whether or not the girl will live to see another day, but a person died today and those who contributed towards that end, are sitting in their cosy beds, playing farmville on facebook, or whatsuppping on their android phones, while the family has their whole life to live with what they lost in that riot, and the sad thing is people still feel that the sole responsibility is of the government, and the only responsibility they have is to light candles on streets and to vote every 5 years, the rest is upto the government to do... I say Bloody Hippie BS !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 @Saint: Very valid points, but it's not just the people at fault. - The original inciter was the accident which happened due to negligence on the police's part. Why was the bus having tinted glasses ? We all know such glasses/shades have been banned quite some time back and regular traffic check-ups are conducted for the same, so how did the bus escape ? This is specially strange because the incident happened near Munirka/VK/VJ, which has a big police station and a number of traffic stops. It's virtually impossible for anyone not to notice the glasses, but I guess they were too busy "vasoolifying" from the bike riders and auto-rickshaw-wallas. - Even the railways has thorough security checkups on most of it's trains throughout the nation. Why isn't the same done for buses, specially the private ones ? I agree that the police cannot be present everywhere at the same time, but the place where the incident took place is an irony on it's own. And it's the same place where you'll see a number of policemen stationed outside the "malls" (PVR Priya/DLF/Ambiance etc), gawking like a rapist-in-the-making at the females present there. At the points put across regarding vacancies in the govt architecture, are you really new to the system ? Here in UP, there are hundreds of vacancies for doctors at PHCs in remote places, but you cannot apply for the post (even at those ridiculous places) unless you "donate" 2-3 lacs to the CMO. Rates are higher for a govt job in a town/city (sometimes including a monthly cut from the salary). Same goes for teachers (and many other govt jobs). Heck, you've to bribe to even get the post of a lift-operator in the govt sector. And the issues don't end there. I've a couple of friends stationed at good PHCs, and they regularly complain of lack of medicines/dressing items etc. There's almost always a shortage. The amount requested and the order delivered are so different that you'll wonder if it's for the same PHC. Let's ask ourselves this: When was the last time the government actually DID something worthwhile for the citizens ? I'm not talking about passing bills, I'm talking about grass root implementation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Params7 Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Make internet and porn a mode widely accessible feature for the lower class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 @saint. I dont know what biz police had in stopping the protesters. Here or other day at Ramleela. What if they had reached prez house, is prez of this republic is so busy that he cant spare 10 mins with the people he heads. Or is it that he is afraid that the hundreds of people in his security are incapable of protecting him. Or is it that govt doesnt want people to get mobilized? It must be #1, aint it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolfy among us Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 They should make prostitution legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanjosh Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Make internet and porn a mode widely accessible feature for the lower class. Yeah because before internet was widespread people went around raping each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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