The News Thread

[ALPHA17]

^^ If Global Times is the source of your daily news, then you should not indulge in such Western misinformation tactics.

 

Have you read their older articles, they are just as insightful as this one if not better.

[playstation]

^^ If Global Times is the source of your daily news, then you should not indulge in such Western misinformation tactics.

 

Have you read their older articles, they are just as insightful as this one if not better.

 

It is bring reported on what is published on chinese daily they are mouth piece of the ruiling communist party.

 

Kinda surprised at the attitude here...every other country is an enemy but the real enemy when it comes to china....

[ALPHA17]

It is bring reported on what is published on chinese daily they are mouth piece of the ruiling communist party.

 

Kinda surprised at the attitude here...every other country is an enemy but the real enemy when it comes to china....

 

Global Times is a propaganda mouthpiece, it has toed the Chinese Communist party hard-line for ages.

 

What did you expect them to say?

 

P.S. -- They did not even publish the Ladakh incursion details, too low in importance there whilst here it reached proportions of a scandal in itself.

[playstation]

 

Global Times is a propaganda mouthpiece, it has toed the Chinese Communist party hard-line for ages.

 

What did you expect them to say?

 

P.S. -- They did not even publish the Ladakh incursion details, too low in importance there whilst here it reached proportions of a scandal in itself.

it is the same thing i am saying that they are mouthpiece and I know they did not publish ladakh incursion details....why would they...

 

I am saying we should also send clear signals at times......kinda of like similar tactics ...New delhi should not always keep quiet also....

[Nemo]

So we should run our own propaganda mouthpiece to fling our poop in nowhere in particular just because some other camp is doing the same ? havent you heard of age old adage about concerning with one's own work and not giving any heed to unnecessary noise makers ? infact what global times is doing is akin to internet trolling and so the classic rule remains the same: do not feed the trolls.

[Nemo]

In other news, business leaders in Karnatka are unhappy with new government in the state's choice of state IT and IB minister.

 

http://www.ndtv.com/article/south/entrepreneurs-unhappy-with-choice-of-karnataka-s-it-minister-372977

 

The problems are that the minister does not have a social media presence (meaning he does not take time to indulge in facebook communication and retweets) and that he is a 65 year old who hails from a backward and not urbane area.

 

BC wtf ?? what kind of kool aid are these ceo's of ours drinking ?

 

-first of all social media presence does not in any way have a positive relation to any one's ability to work unless the work field happens to be internet advertiser or viral marketeer and we all know how we emote to such tactics when they come unsolicited. If having a fb/twitter account and time spent on it is the barometer of a capable minister or anything then all popular forums would have been up to their brim full with the brightest minds, academicians, inventors, administrators, discoverers of our generation and YET we know it for a fact that 90% of the internet is porn, attempts to lure unsuspecting visitors into some form of porn and emo hissy bitchfights.

 

-Secondly said minister being a non urban leader is not a hinderance. The minister's duty is to not just provide conducive measures for existing players in the industry to grow and expand but also to see that the backward regions, that are untouched by technology are given proper attention for them to brought in the growth and development ambit, because after all is said and done, an efficient government is one that has managed to bring development with equality.

 

-A minister is an administrator at the foremost level. It should be judged on the basis of its sincerity, outlook towards the portfolio that it is going to receive and thoughts about the development of existing industry and extending its impact on hitherto unexplored regions, the backward rural areas. The ministry has to allocate funds and see to it that they are used in the stipulated manner and are showing desired results. One doesnt have to be a Job-sian inventor to be a capable administrator running the IT ministry.

 

 

 

The corporate leaders- Pai, Shaw etc should really, really come out of their bubble. Hell if anything, a few of the upwardly mobile, smartphone toting former IT ministers at different levels have been the ones to harbor extreme opinions regarding curbing of internet expressions. So that is that.

[playstation]

 

Thane: girl harassment by 4 men attempts suicide

 

A teenage girl attempted suicide in Thane after being allegedly harassed by four youths, police said on Saturday.

 

The incident took place on Friday evening at Salvad locality in Boisar when the 17-year-old poured kerosene and set herself afire, they said.

The girl suffered 70% burns and was rushed to the Rural Hospital initially and later shifted to Masina hospital in Palghar where she is battling for her life, police added.

The victim tried to end her life after she was fed up of the lewd comments passed by the youths -- Aksahy Raut, Prameet, Abhijeet More and Milind Dongre --of the same locality.

According to PSI VR Patil of Boisar Police station, the youths humiliated and harassed the girl, accusing her of having illicit relations with a boy in the village.

The absconding youths have been charged under section 306 of the IPC, and a manhunt has been launched for them, police said.

 

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Mumbai/Thane-girl-harassment-by-4-men-attempts-suicide/Article1-1069234.aspx

 

 

 

 

Kuch asa karna chahiya government ki ...Girls who face this harrasement should call up a helpline and report the incident ...report everything what time and who are the guys who pass these comments and how often girl pass through that area where she was harassed ... then next day same time ...police in civilian clothes should be send there and catch these culprits red handed....gand mein danda gusha do salo ka....

[Sa1nT_SoLd1eR]

At last, a sane voice coming from somewhere within the ruling party, I personally think Shinde should be relieved of the Home Minister post. With due respect to his political strides from an ASI in MSP to Home Minister of the country, the guy is clearly lacking in vision. Home ministry must be given to someone with a bigger Oversight. No doubt he has the administrative skills but HM needs much more than that, this department needs to be in the hands of a visionary and not the likes of SS Patil etc. Although the electronic media (exclusive club of Upper castes) which cannot fathom a dalit being elevated to the HM post has been on his a*s since his inception as HM, even the slightest of mistake has been made to play out as a huge scandal.

 

Despite all that Hubbub, his statement equating Maoists, Naxals with terrorists clearly shows his disconnect to the core of the problem. I hope better sense prevails and these blood thirsty corporates are contained and Human life is given due importance over development. For no development is worth having which is drawn from the blood of innocents. I hope people within the ruling combine listen to Deo, and Mr. Shinde gets his act togther sonner rather than later.

 

 

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/amid-calls-for-tough-action-congress-differences-show-up/article4769983.ece

[Nemo]

Did Shinde say it, equating insurgents with terrorists ? I though it was Jai Ram ramesh.

[Sa1nT_SoLd1eR]

Yesterday, even Shinde termed it a terrorist act. the sudden change of sides of Jairam Ramesh was already creating ripples, and with Shinde also equating the incident with a terrorist attack, they look to have completely foregone any kind of Oversight that was playing resistance beforehand, there is no doubt that Maoists are extremists who want to attain power, much like what happened in Nepal, they are probably even inspired by Nepal model, but to take out few extremists a full-on "war on terror" (aka American Bastardness) cannot be a possible solution, it will only aggravate things beyond repair.

 

Calling Saturday’s ambush
on the Congress convoy a
“terror attack”, Mr. Shinde
said: “So far we were thinking that this [violence] would
be some [sort of] movement.
But in the 2010 incident [in
Tadmetla, where 76 security
personnel were killed] and
the May 25 one, we have seen
it is nothing other than terror,” he said

 

 

[Nemo]

yeah read that artical, Shinde said the problem of insurgency is bigger than terrorism, which if you go by the number of lives lost, both of civilians and armed soldiers from police, cpf, army etc is quite true. It was Jai Ram (rural devpt minister) who put both on the same equitable platform. We have lost more soldiers to Naxalites than we have even in international wars. The 75 crpf jawans killed in dantewada (2010) is the highest number of loss the indian state has suffered in a single day in the past 25 or so years, not even kargil had such a number. It is second biggest casualty overall in independent india only after the mid 80s Operation Bluestar where over 140 personnel were killed in a day.

 

 

I am not that familiar with Shinde's work as he has been in background most of the times, but then again we dont have any comparable reference point in last 9 years of UPA. All other home ministers have not had it any better. Though one thing i really disliked about him is the way he did not immediately rush from his US trip when the new of attack broke out.

[Nemo]

Yesterday, even Shinde termed it a terrorist act. the sudden change of sides of Jairam Ramesh was already creating ripples, and with Shinde also equating the incident with a terrorist attack, they look to have completely foregone any kind of Oversight that was playing resistance beforehand, there is no doubt that Maoists are extremists who want to attain power, much like what happened in Nepal, they are probably even inspired by Nepal model, but to take out few extremists a full-on "war on terror" (aka American Bastardness) cannot be a possible solution, it will only aggravate things beyond repair.

 

 

 

terror attack =/= terrorism. Agreed it is just semantics but when we are basing our judge on words alone we have got to be intricate. Naxalism is in no way a terrorist attack as it is more a socio-economic problem then law and order. This whole thing has been really ill managed by both UPA and incumbent CG govt of bjp. The people are the ones to suffer along with police and crpf soldiers who are literally thrown in front of the gun in absence of training, equipment and worst of all, a definite strategy from government.

[Sa1nT_SoLd1eR]

Listening to the press confrence in conjugation with what is happening on ground, it was quite evident from his words about what he meant, already 15 companies of paramilitary forces have been descended into the forests of Bastar alone to comb out suspected maoists, and this is only the start, it will only increase in the coming months, they have already resorted to full scale use of power, while the people sitting in media houses do not find it worth mentioning even once, for IPL fixing is more important than mass scale use of force of the state against it's own people, all these are diversionary tactics of the media with implicit support from the corporates to meet their own ends. they showed their 'bipartisan' face for the the first 2 days and phased out the incident completely with the IPL spot fixing probe.

 

The so-called 'action' is already underway while others are being made to think that the state is still planning the strategy and the impending course of action, whereas truth being, that the 'action' has already been initiated in tune with the whims and wishes of the corporates. With no recon available in the deep end of the forests, which is the forte of Maoists, the tribals will be at the recieving end of all this force, resulting in "cleansing" of the area, ready for exploitation for the mining mafia. The corporates wil very cleverly keep on playing the double game of funding maoists on one side and coercing state to push forces deeper in the forests to clear areas for exploitation, using the media houses as it's main diversionary tactics by projecting sensational issues like rape, incursion by China, Mr. Modi as PM, IPL fixing etc as the VOICE OF THE NATION, while the corporates cleverly carry on with filling their coffers and do the same in India on their own people, first by illegal incrusion on resource rich land which belongs to the tribals, and by pitting tribals against the state itself, and inflicting mass rapes & murder at the hand of security forces of tribal men & women (as has been the case before), yet, noone from the thousands of "Intellectuals" who marched on the streets of Delhi against rape, corruption will even have a moment to spare thoughts for the plight of the Tribals, for these matters donot affect their own lives directly.

 

Both Congress and BJP are making a fool out of the people of India on the behest of corporates who they so desperately need to stay in power.

 

The case of Soni Sori [tribal school teacher] is there as an example: she is still in jail, accused of being a courier for corporates.

 

Proper action would have been initiation of the 5th schedule with restraint on part of the state, and a ban on mining activities to put an end to the alienation of tribals. With the course already charted they have already foregone the welfare of innocent tribals which will only drive them to the other side, which again does not affect the corporates, for they are playing from both sides. Both BJP & Congress have failed and surrendered to the will of the corporates, murder of democracy, I say, but then again it isn't the first time it is happening.

[ALPHA17]

Business leaders in Karnatka are unhappy with new government in the state's choice of state IT and IB minister.

 

Maybe they saw the change of guard as a time to induct more young blood into the ranks.

 

I won't pass judgement on him unless the report card is out but if it was a younger minister, it might have acted as a placebo to allay misgivings. Maybe their fears are justified, maybe just extrapolated, for now wait and watch.

[playstation]

 

NDTV Big Fight- India Vs China

http://www.ndtv.com/video/live/channel/ndtv24x7?pfrom=home-bigplayer

 

 

 

sala ek ba.ed ka student can figure out chinese moves much before than people ruiling this country...

[CM Sunny]

India chickens out of international students assessment programme again

 

 

MUMBAI: After an embarrassing show in 2009, India has backed out of the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) slated for 2015. The programme is a global evaluation process by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) secretariat that gauges where schoolchildren stand alongside their peers from other countries.

This academic Olympics measures the performance of 15 year olds in reading, math and science. Indians were put to test for the first time in 2009. On the global stage, they stood second last among 73 countries, only beating Kyrgyzstan. India had also stayed away from the evaluation round in 2012.

This time around, sources said India shied away from the assessment as government officials felt our children were not prepared for such a test.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The assessment is based on two-hour tests that half a million students are put through. China's Shanghai province, which participated in PISA for the first time like the two Indian states, scored the highest in reading. It also topped the charts in math and science. "More than one-quarter of Shanghai's 15-year-olds demonstrated advanced mathematical thinking skills to solve complex problems, compared to an OECD average of just 3%," noted the analysis.

In math, considered India's strong point, the states finished second and third last, beating only Kyrgyzstan; the English test threw up the same result. Girls were better than boys and science results were the worst, where Himachal stood last. TN was slightly better and finished third from bottom. The average 15-year old Indian is over 200 points behind the global topper.

Experts estimate that an Indian class VIII student is at the same level as a South Korean class III student in math abilities or a class II student from Shanghai when it comes to reading skill.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/education/news/India-chickens-out-of-international-students-assessment-programme-again/articleshow/20375670.cms?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral

[achilles]

The f**k. After being nothing but cram-artists for the entire student life in India, and having IITs and IIMs to get through, you'd think our level was amongst the highest. I don't think we're sending our best talent. Or, we're being taught different stuff.

 

Unless the test is more 'independent thinking' based, in which case, no wonder. Cram artists can't think. They can only follow and reproduce.

[Nemo]

i am interested in the logic behind the basis of comparison as formulated in the last part of Sunny's post, the bolded part.

 

they are comparing an average indian student (as in the whole country) with the most developed city in china and with a tiny (south korea would be smaller than all big indian states) but amongst the most developed nations.

 

how is that a fair comparison ? if they compare Delhi with Shanghai or india with whole china (including the non coastal and central regions) i will bite, other wise this is creative statistics.

 

further reading tells that what they are refering to as Indian students really only mean 2 states- himachal and tamil nadu. dude i will have any one indian metro or kota (what with all iit maggoos camping there) and pin it against any nothern chinese province and results will come in heavy favor of Indian students. There should be some uniformity in comparative analysis. it is not that one cant or shouldnt compare apples and oranges, but if doing so one should refrain from passing generalized theories based on such results.

 

 

not saying that domestic picture is sunshine and rainbows, there is lot to be done in field of education reforms and discouraging rote learning but situation is nowhere near as satanic as this report shows.

[playstation]

 

When an assertive China outsmarts a clumsy India

Unlike India, whose leaders and strategists are guided by Western diplomatic and strategic thinking, China is guided primarily by the strategies enunciated in the 6th century BC, in the words of one of its generals, Sun Tzu. Drawing on the sayings of Sun Tzu, China has outmanoeuvred a clumsy India, held in awe of Chinese economic and military power and its impressive infrastructure on its borders in Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh.

Sun Tzu proclaimed: “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting,” adding, “All warfare is based on deception.” Under siege on its coastal frontiers over maritime territorial disputes with Japan, Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei and Malaysia, China’s rulers have evidently decided that it is necessary for them to keep their western frontiers with India quiet. But, for this it was necessary to force India into a position of immobilisation on its borders, which would preclude it from building its defences or infrastructure along the Ladakh-Tibet border. By moving merely 50 soldiers into Depsang in Ladakh in April, China rattled India into a virtual surrender. In Chinese/Tibetan maps between the 17th century and 1919, Depsang has been clearly depicted as being on the Ladakh side of the Ladakh-Tibet border. What China achieved by its intrusion was a pullback of Indian forces and a removal of defence structures on India’s side of the boundary and a virtual veto on India’s forward infrastructure and defence build-up on its borders. Sun Tzu would have been proud of his teachings of victory without war.

 

http://newindianexpress.com/magazine/voices/When-an-assertive-China-outsmarts-a-clumsy-India/2013/06/02/article1612914.ece

 

 

 

[Nemo]

useless fact: there was no sun tzu, well atlest none that has certified proof of his existance.

 

sure there are some very badass sounding and actually badass in reality war stratergies attributed to the name but no one knows if such a guy existed or if it were a number of people who wrote under the name sun tzu.

 

 

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