The Wolfy among us Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Are you serious? India will be the last to get on that boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 @ Wolfy You managed to get the crux of the playstation's between indiscriminate jump in language and random cuss words ? All i saw was- Dinos getting hit with meteor and somehow that justifies the "unchecked" (remember: this word is important) need for expense on space. ??? This is like anyone spending obscene monies for insuring them selves against a curse from vengeful mummy or poltergeist. High tide-low tide needed a man on moon. Ostensibly. ??? A certain dude called Newton might have to say something about it, seeing as he was the first guy to objectively ascertain and prove this theory in 17 th century using mathematics. And then it was more like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolfy among us Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 You just have to sift thro the unwanted stuff brah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Maybe as Shantz said learning of this mission can be used for defence etc. That is a good point. But as such, the mars mission was not required now. If for nothing else, be happy that this mission is sticking it to our Northern neighbours. Even if you look at it now, NASA wants to arrest the drop in its funding simply because it will atrophy their current lead in space technology. Also, some really good articles in today's EDITORIAL of The Hindu, A time to recall the Stalwarts Debate on drones Are you serious? India will be the last to get on that boat. I would say better last on that boat than never. Till now only three programmes have sent successful missions to Mars, NASA, The ESA and the Soviet Space Program. Other nations in the reckoning are Japan, China and us. So hope that we are part of this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 You just have to sift thro the unwanted stuff brah anyhoo, i get that your peeve is on the unchecked, unrestrained money sink. I dont know why people immediately assume that legitimately questioning such maneuvers is somehow equal with demanding all space and scientific experiments and exploration to be stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 anyhoo, i get that your peeve is on the unchecked, unrestrained money sink. Every Rupee spent benefits the people, The former ISRO chief, U.R. Rao, said that when his friends in the U.S. asked him whether India should spend Rs. 500 crore on the Mars mission, he told them that when Rs. 10,000 crore was spent on Diwali crackers by people, this money was worth spending on the project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne0 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 ^^ excellent comment by the ISRO Chief there .... respect++ ! Most people assume that Rs XXXX spent on missions for ISRO or DRDO is much better spent elsewhere .... but you've to remember that, the "elsewhere" more often than not always ends up either in some politico/bureaucrat's pocket .... or just get wasted in subsidies etc. Don't just look at the direct results from of a Mars mission, also look at the indirect impact projects like these have on the economy in terms of promoting scientific knowledge, research, education etc which also leads to growth in jobs/economy. The results will not be visible immediately , but it's an investment for the future. I would rather have my tax rupees spent on these than subsidies ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Are you serious? India will be the last to get on that boat. So what would like to see ...every major discoveries for mankind left to Elite few...USA,Uk,Russia,China etc...and do you think if they come across any big discovery they will share it with all...If it was upto NASA ..ISRO would have not existed ...hats off to people who despite facing difficult times in 1970s took ISRO to become the six largest Spare Research organisation in the world and Today ISRO commercial unit helps India earn about $2 billion by launching sattelities for other friendly countries...even Israel takes help from India when it comes to space research...India literally achieved this mars mission with 1/10 of budget what Nasa generally spends on these kinda of missions. Look at Antartica How many nations have research facility there?? Hardly few..India has three now?? so should we stop that facility ??because even running that facility is not cheap...and again leave it elite few... @ Wolfy You managed to get the crux of the playstation's between indiscriminate jump in language and random cuss words ? All i saw was- Dinos getting hit with meteor and somehow that justifies the "unchecked" (remember: this word is important) need for expense on space. a Dominant species that was ruling Earth for over 100 million was completely wiped out ...what makes you think we cannot face same calamity ?? High tide-low tide needed a man on moon. Ostensibly. ??? A certain dude called Newton might have to say something about it, seeing as he was the first guy to objectively ascertain and prove this theory in 17 th century using mathematics. Proving a theory is one thing and day to day understanding is one thing...Sun is not same as it was 4 billion years ago.........earth has gone through many changes as well ..some of them very violent for inhabitants ..ICE age. massive volcanic eruptions...you are just thinking of the present and fail to see that if any its every living beings journey to go and just discover.......you are talking like cave man who never wants to come out of his cave and busy drawing on the wall with stone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Those who are opposing this amazing feat should ask themselves where were they when Bahenji was building 40000cr rock garden in lucknow or 700cr park in Noida. whatever I oppose this statues and monuments even its of Sardar Patel, whom i respect 1000x more than these Ghandy uthaigires and so-called dalit icons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 @ playstation. Your idea about supporting the mission was correct, i mean it is perfectly right for you to defend it. But the examples as to why it is 'so very needed.. right now' were pretty faulty. You cannot base the outlay of your present expenses on an event that happened 100 million years ago (which has never happened since) and that it 'may' happen xyz amount of time in future. By that logic nothing would ever get done as one would then have perfect reasons to go back further in time (figuratively) and pick out obscure reasons for starting N number of projects. _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolfy among us Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Those who are opposing this amazing feat should ask themselves where were they when Bahenji was building 40000cr rock garden in lucknow or 700cr park in Noida. whatever I oppose this statues and monuments even its of Sardar Patel, whom i respect 1000x more than these Ghandy uthaigires and so-called dalit icons. I was on this very forum, cribbing about that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooner4life Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Surprised by the amount of skepticism on the recent Mars Mission of ISRO & especially when the reason for skepticism is that the money spent there could have been spent on eradicating poverty or other such problems. Only shows that people don't understand:- 1) How paltry a sum like 450 cr is for a mission like this. 2)The benefits of this mission and overall benefit of ISRO's other achievements. 3) How much amount is already getting spent on 'eradicating' poverty, malnutrition etc etc & 450 cr is just a drop in ocean when compared to that. There is absolutely no negative in what ISRO is trying to do, absolutely none. Also another area of criticism is the building of statues & parks etc but that is a very short termist view. If such things are made properly & taken care off, then long term benefits(tourism, recreation etc) of such infrastructure easily outweigh the amount spent on them in the present (though I agree that the park made my Mayawati in Noida was a massive waste of public money) Every developed nation right now has such monuments(Statue of Liberty, Eiffel Tower etc). So I don't see nothing wrong in India making a few of their own unique monuments/statues/parks etc as we are not exactly a poor nation though we still have a long way to go to become a developed nation but all this is part of that process imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 @ playstation. Your idea about supporting the mission was correct, i mean it is perfectly right for you to defend it. But the examples as to why it is 'so very needed.. right now' were pretty faulty. You cannot base the outlay of your present expenses on an event that happened 100 million years ago (which has never happened since) and that it 'may' happen xyz amount of time in future. By that logic nothing would ever get done as one would then have perfect reasons to go back further in time (figuratively) and pick out obscure reasons for starting N number of projects. _ What looks like very long back to you ...is actually not long at all When you see in Cosmos Age Span.......We have been just lucky at most that nothing major has happen now but that could change anytime .Our Sun is 4 billions years old now......Even for one second if suns light was to vanish or some violent reaction happens you cannot even imagine shits can happen on earth..... ...Dinosaur were dominant species for 100 million years and if traces of fossil go by they were all over earth Right from West to East....yet it took one such event to change that all..now just to give you an idea of how destructive even small asteroids can be ...read this The metoer that hit Russia it was just 17-20 meters .... Over 1,500 people were injured when a meteor exploded over Chelyabinsk, Russia, last month - generating shock waves that shattered windows and damaged buildings. Check out all the latest News, Sport & Celeb gossip at Mirror.co.uk http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/science/asteroid-tv135-heading-earth-2032-2465791#ixzz2jwRy1uzm Follow us: @DailyMirror on Twitter | DailyMirror on Facebook One scientist told The New York Times that with a 450-foot-wide object, "You’re not going to wipe out humanity, but if you get unlucky, you could kill 50 million people or you could collapse the world economy for a century, two centuries." So that's a fun hypothetical. http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2013/11/get-ready-more-asteroids-and-meteorites/71343/ there is so much to understand that lot of things are not even clear even now....and you are pointing out my mars mission support bases on just dinosaur being wiped out...that was just one example i am giving ....there is once again a lot we still have not understood... Beside Nemo....Dont you want to Know if aliens are there...imagine beautiful skin colour....long legs...shape shifting according to the need....tum log ka imagination bohat kamjor hai.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne0 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Some good news about the country, after the many negative stuff you hear all around. Surprisingly didn't find this in any of the major media sources .... How India became a significant factor in controlling the AIDS pandemic in Africa For me, a very important aspect of the story told in Fire in the Blood is that of India as a vital beacon of hope and humanity. In some ways, it’s almost absurd to think of our country in such terms in this day and age, but that is precisely the role that India plays as, by far and away, the leading supplier of affordable, high-quality medicine to the world, and especially to the Global South. I honestly feel that perhaps this is the only area in which India fulfils the legacy and promise of the freedom struggle, its belief in self-reliance and the fundamental importance of prioritising human lives over corporate profits. This is something which perplexes a lot of people. India changed its patent law in 1970 on the principle that the country simply couldn’t afford monopolies on food and medicine. Drug prices fell dramatically within a very short period of time as a result. Few Indians realise that just next door, in Pakistan, drugs cost many, many times more than they do here. India has the most affordable medicine in the world. That came to be primarily through intense competition between drug makers, which resulted from the liberalisation of the patent regime. There are supposedly somewhere in the order of 25,000 pharmaceutical companies in India today, and maybe 100 big ones which export to literally every corner of the globe. Together they make this country the biggest producer of generic drugs in the world, in an environment so competitive that they have also had to work very hard to become the most efficient companies in the field. Government price controls have also played a role in ensuring essential drugs remain affordable here at home. A lot of other countries have been emboldened by India’s strong stance on access to essential medicine, and many wish to emulate it. Civil society in South Africa, for example, is actively trying to get various features of the Indian patent system adopted in that country because the bar for granting patent monopolies on drugs there at present is quite low, meaning many medicines are priced out of reach to the vast majority of the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne0 Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Another good article on the recent Mars mission of India .... skeptics need to read these ! http://www.marsdaily.com/reports/Mythbusting_Indias_Mars_Mission_999.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Pakistani 'mole' in Delhi helped 26/11 attackers, claims book A Pakistani mole in the Indian security agencies code named 'Honey Bee' had helped his Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) handlers in identifying the landing site for 26/11 terrorists in Mumbai, claims a book by two British journalists. The information on Badhwar Park, the landing site, was shared by ISI operatives with Pakistani-American Lashkar operative David Headley who had checked it out while conducting recce of the area, it says. http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/pakistani-mole-in-delhi-helped-26-11-attackers-claims-book-443689 WHOA!.....Looks like People at RAW are as incompetent as our PM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 'Tamils still being raped and tortured' in Sri LankaAs Commonwealth leaders prepare to meet at a summit in the Sri Lankan capital, Colombo, allegations of rape and torture by the Sri Lankan security forces have emerged, some of them occurring four years after the civil war ended. "When the lady left and that man closed the door, I knew what was going to happen," says Vasantha. "They raped me." One evening earlier this year, Vasantha says, she was going back to her home in northern Sri Lanka when a white van drew up and two men asked for her identity card. She says she was thrown into the back of the vehicle and blindfolded. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24849699 Nigeria threatens forcible eviction of 1 million Indians, if Goa deports Nigerians New Delhi: A major diplomatic row is in the offing with Nigeria's consular attache Jacob Nwadadia saying that his country could think of forcibly evacuating one millions Indians living there if the Goa government continued to deport Nigerian nationals. "There are only 50,000 Nigerians living in India but there are over a million Indians living in Nigeria. "Thousands of Indians living there will be thrown out on the streets if the forcible eviction of Nigerians in Goa does not stop," agencies quoted Nigeria's consular attache Jacob Nwadadia as saying on Monday. http://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/nigeria-threaten-forcible-eviction-million-indians-goa-deports-30096.html Such poor handling of International affairs....From Sri Lanka and now even Nigeria threatening us.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Such poor handling of International affairs....From Sri Lanka and now even Nigeria threatening us.... Ummmm... Right about first part. Wrong on second..SL thing is fubar since Bharat ratna sri Rajib ghandy, we arent consistent about who are our friends. Its not exactly human rights issue...and even if it is, we shouldnt be so concerned after what we have done there. on third, drug peddlers are to be dealt irrespective of their nationalities. Undiplomatic and unwise to single out nigerians...even though we know not many of them are clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Ummmm... Right about first part. Wrong on second..SL thing is fubar since Bharat ratna sri Rajib ghandy, we arent consistent about who are our friends. Its not exactly human rights issue...and even if it is, we shouldnt be so concerned after what we have done there. on third, drug peddlers are to be dealt irrespective of their nationalities. Undiplomatic and unwise to single out nigerians...even though we know not many of them are clean. Udham you should go through the link i posted ..th bbc link and click on the video there.......those poor tamils have gone through hell....torture rapes ...India could have atleast force sri lanka to curb as much as of the human rights as possible..sala kuch bhi nahi kiya..just turned its face away.... About the drug peddlers......Goa is like sold to Russians and these foreign nationals...Nigerians are being single out because of the way took the law in their hand by blocking National highway...how dare they do it?? on top how is Nigerian envoy get through threatening police officer and then threatening India about consequence ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Udham you should go through the link i posted ..th bbc link and click on the video there.......those poor tamils have gone through hell....torture rapes ...India could have atleast force sri lanka to curb as much as of the human rights as possible. And smart mouths would come right back to us and show us our record in the Maoist belt, North-East sector and Kashmir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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