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akashkhannabond007

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Its kinda amazes me to read and see reactions of people who are okay with the treatment our diplomat has gone through in USA.

 

 

In her case the crime was she underpaid her maid yet many say she should be punished and India should nto stand by her ...but when countries like Italy can stand for its marines who can murder innocent fisherman..

 

When USA can stand for its agent who in broad daylight shot two cyclist in Pakistan ....why do we Indians dont stand up for our own people....her crime is nothing compared to what these marines and CIA agent has done.

 

And she being a Diplomat has some privileges which was completely denied to her.

 

 

Amazing how articles on news are reporting that India is going overboard with the stpes taken and hurt USA-India ties....why the f**k should we always take a back foot...

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^^ I dont think anybody here is denying the fact that she was treated badly, And of course India is standing by her .... govt is doing everything in its power .... latest update is that she's transferred to a UN Mission where she gets complete diplomatic immunity

 

Indian diplomat Devyani Khobragade, who was arrested and put in a cell with criminals in the US, has been transferred to the permanent mission in New York, which entitles her to full diplomatic immunity.

 

 

 

what people are discussing here is whether the diplomat was at fault as well which led to this situation ....

 

Also, if you read washington post, the below info is given which I didn't see in any of the indian newspapers.... always two sides to a story i guess :scratchchin:

 

According to court papers, Khobragade, who is described as an advocate for women’s issues, presented a work contract to U.S. authorities that said she would pay her maid-babysitter $9.75 an hour, as required. But she later drew up a private contract with the maid and paid her only $3.31 an hour, the documents said. U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said at the time of her arrest that foreign nationals brought to the United States to serve as domestic workers are entitled to the same protections against exploitation as U.S. citizens.

 

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^ true all that.

 

There is a guy Preet bharara, who is called Sheriff of Wall street is behind it. He basically tries to be cowboy with his high-profile prosecutions. And Devyani fell in his trap.

 

Suneeta is being served by an immigration lawyer, who is giving her all the trainings. But what a traitor...just for some dollas brought shame on entire country. 3rd copycat case this btw.

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Sangeeta is still untracable in US. Which means there is someone who is harbouring her.

Either she is in State's protection or her attorney has put her into a safehouse.

 

bTw Devyani has been now promoted so she gets full Diplomatic immunity. India has in deed taken this case on top priority.

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The Indian prosecutor conspiracy angle is more political than legal or even money oriented, was listening to a debate tonight & Mani Shankar Aiyar mentioned this aspect about this Indian prosecutor who wants to run for elections in NY & wants to show that Indians living in America are more American than anyone else & to highlight his 'unbiased' character, the maid seems to be hand in glove in all this, India has never before took a strong stand irrespective of government in charge & He probably thought it would be like that this time around as well.

 

Anyways that is what Salman Khurshid was saying on the floor of the house when he mentioned the conspiracy angle but he didn't divulge any details per se, let's see how it doles out in the next 48 hours !!

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I'm not sure why everyone (especially the media) is going apeshit over this. She committed a crime in a foreign land under their laws. She did not enjoy diplomatic immunity which would let her skirt those laws. The American authorities treated her how they would treat anyone accused of that crime. The 'terrible strip search that she had to endure' is standard procedure for when they book people. Everyone is checked for contraband and made to change clothes into a jumpsuit. The only thing they could have done differently is to treat this matter with more nuance and diplomacy. Making a public incident out of this whole thing just damages relations between the countries. Of course, when I say that they should have handled it with diplomacy, that would involve informing the Indian government about it and you can be sure she would have been on the next flight out of the country. Likewise, I don't think the Indian government is doing anything wrong here. They will (and should) try to protect their citizens and go to whatever lengths necessary to do so. Which explains her current promotion which now affords full diplomatic immunity. I'm not sure if that will shield her from a crime committed while she didn't have that protection. The whole removing security from their Embassy is a little petty though but if it sends a message, so be it.

 

What I don't understand is all these crys of racism and conspiracy and what not. It's not like they woke up one morning and decided, yes, today is a good day to f**k with India and cause an international diplomatic incident just to show them down. This is hurting both countries right now.

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As far as I know, the family is still in India. Not sure about police custody. Either way, it's not like they're going on a vacation and getting a green card. They are seeking asylum as political refugees. Every country has a system in place to grant that.

 

As for the strip search vs. cavity search argument, the American authorities are saying that she wasn't cavity searched. Pick which side you want to believe.

 

Diplomats are bound by the laws of the country they live in unless they specifically have immunity. If you f**k up, you either get out before you get caught or your govt. can buy your way out like the Americans so often do. None of that means that the laws don't apply. If she could not afford to pay domestic help according to the laws of that land then she shouldn't have hired the person. She knew that she was skirting the law by falsifying documents and she got caught. There's no one denying that she is in fact guilty of what she has been accused of. It's just that India could not get her out in time. If someone in India makes any complaints about the 'companion' visas and if it can be used against them, you can be sure foreign embassies will get those people out of the country in no time. I guess this is where the real strength of a government in the world is tested. Somehow the Italian government managed to convince the Indian government to let a murderer fly back to their country. I'm pretty sure India can not manage the same thing with the US government. That said, she is now in the protection of the United Nations. I would imagine the Americans would just deport her at this point to end this diplomatic incident which is pretty much entirely their fault.

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http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/12/19/usa-india-regret-devyani-khobragade-idINDEE9BH0GH20131219

 

excerpts from the letter clearly show what this Trash of a prosecutor Mr. Preet Bharara had in mind, i think the conspiracy behind this episode becomes adequately clear from the wording of the letter itself

 

 

 

"Ms. Khobragade was accorded courtesies well beyond what other defendants, most of whom are American citizens, are accorded," Bharara said, adding that his sole motivation was to "hold accountable anyone who breaks the law - no matter what their societal status and no matter how powerful, rich or connected they are."
Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara, in an unusually lengthy written statement in a pending case, said he wanted to clear up the "misinformation" surrounding the arrest of diplomat Devyani Khobragade, and he questioned why there was more sympathy for Khobragade than her alleged victim.

 

Clearly shows this guy has other things in mind, He wants to position himself as a Pro-American Indian. he is famously known as "The Sheriif of WallStreet" in NY & was looking to contest elections for NY Mayor in the near future & probably saw this case as an opportunity for the same.

 

It's more like culmination of vested interests drawing useless, over-reaching action on an Indian diplomat !! Father in Law of Richards works in US embassy & wanted to secure her daughter's family in US, just 2 days before the arrest Richards husband & children reached US & this guy Preet Bharara saw this as an opportunity to make a pitch for his own election prospects & no-one expected this to snowball into such a massive controversy given India's past diplomatic history concerning such issues.

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