Zeehunter Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Japan can stand up to them...not even half the size of India....Why cant we?? Lol .. Japan's defence system is fully dependant on their master USA Without their master , even North Korea would have ruled Tokyo It is just because of US seventh fleet stationed in Japan that no country thinks of going on war with Japan Atleast India has some self respect and has an independent foreign policy and defence system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Cause our political brass don't have the cojones to stand up to the Chinese. I am as anti war as any one can go but that doesn't mean not putting up a solid defense mechanism. same here...not that i asking for war with them...but we dont need to bow to these bully also ..Need to show them that we are not afraid of them and stay the f**k out of our land or there will be no beijing for chinese if no Arunachal pradesh for us Indians. Lol .. Japan's defence system is fully dependant on their master USA Without their master , even North Korea would have ruled Tokyo It is just because of US seventh fleet stationed in Japan that no country thinks of going on war with Japan Atleast India has some self respect and has an independent foreign policy and defence system What self respect you talking about...They come inside our land threatens our soldiers,our citizen....they openly say Arunachal Pradesh belongs to them and none of our Country leaders had enough guts to reply them back... A country which is thousand of miles away for Japan and has just one fleet stationed there is enough for Chinese to back off from Japan but Here is a country that has billion people...with all its defence ....... yet they have no fear crossing into our motherland .....what self respect have we left here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeehunter Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Even we openly claim Aksai Chin as ours Fleet is of USA not Japan .. It's USA which is standing up against China's aggression not Japan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AMG Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Dont we all openly stand and say that Beijing is ours. Oh wait, we dont. Oh wait, I just did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Even we openly claim Aksai Chin as ours Fleet is of USA not Japan .. It's USA which is standing up against China's aggression not Japan TU pagal hai kya...Aksai Chin belongs to India....Pakistan when captured POK gave away a part to China.Even then we dont cross the border and claim it ours. We still ocassionally say its ours that too not the government directly but the opposition parties sometimes claim that. If there is a war it will be japan that take china's brunt...a small country like still stands for what it believes is theres.....USA forces are a added confidence i agree but please it still gonna be Japan directly facing China if there is a war.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeehunter Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Do U know history ?? Pakistan gave Shaksgam valley to China not Aksai Chin Aksai Chin was a part of China long before Kashmir king annexed to India While on the other side Tawang was a part of Tibet until 1930s when it was forcefully taken into British India by McMahon line But U should believe blindly on all the sh*t thrown at you by the government and media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolfy among us Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 But U should believe blindly on all the sh*t thrown at you by the government and media so where do you get your reliable info from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 It all stems due to the dalai lama fiasco. I don't get why we took him under our protection, it's the same with the Hindus in Pakistan. Why are they our responsibility ? I mean sure we should condemn crimes against human rights around the world but we should not openly open our borders for any refugee who wants patronage. f**k religion, we got our own sh*t to deal here with in our own boundaries. It pissed me off to no end when bjp openly raised it's voice asking for Hindus from Pakistan to be allowed to come here and the govt actually caved in. We should make peace with china and deport dalai lama and his ilk of saffron clad monks back to where they belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Do U know history ?? Pakistan gave Shaksgam valley to China not Aksai Chin Aksai Chin was a part of China long before Kashmir king annexed to India While on the other side Tawang was a part of Tibet until 1930s when it was forcefully taken into British India by McMahon line But U should believe blindly on all the sh*t thrown at you by the government and media My bad about Aksai chin...but this does not mean it should be all okay for them to cross our border ...not even an 100 mtrs near our land should they be seen.... It all stems due to the dalai lama fiasco. I don't get why we took him under our protection, it's the same with the Hindus in Pakistan. Why are they our responsibility ? I mean sure we should condemn crimes against human rights around the world but we should not openly open our borders for any refugee who wants patronage. f**k religion, we got our own sh*t to deal here with in our own boundaries. It pissed me off to no end when bjp openly raised it's voice asking for Hindus from Pakistan to be allowed to come here and the govt actually caved in. We should make peace with china and deport dalai lama and his ilk of saffron clad monks back to where they belong. Yea and china is promoting lot of peaceful activities na.....what about the support china gives to Maosit and send arms to north east forces against India...Dalai Lama is no where even near the terrorist and anti India acts carried out by chinese against us. India does not even give Any official support to Dalai Lama's Statement ,he just provided shelter here thats it...infact many times just not to piss chinese India has put pressure on Dalai Lama not to say anything in a way that would piss china bad. India is always being called a spiritual leader of the world....Dalai Lama is a spiritual leader of one of the biggest religions that has its root in India. He is provided shelter on that basis only. I say f**k peace with china...they cross our border ...write chinese name on our land ...let our soldiers cross the border and write India's name on their rocks....the attacks us ....we attack them....they nuke us...we nuke them....they f**k us.....we f**k them..... There have been many times when government has not even openly admitted to chinese activities on our side of border....god knows how much more inside they our in our land then we are made to believe and our government tries to make it look all is well ...so that they enjoy their term ....if we keep looking the other side...some day will come when they will be standing right next to me andyou and say...hey you are standing on chinese land. Look nemo....there is a price to pay for peace i know ......but should not be at the cost of our motherland....no matter how big and powerful your enemy is....Nukes do give us a chance to go mad(mutual assured destruction) ..if things get worse china will not live to see the next day either...we need not to be scared of them....what is done is done...but what land is ours now."Stay the f**k out of it" ...should be the clear message given to chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeehunter Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 so where do you get your reliable info from? Now TV is the only source of info Go read some books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeehunter Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Nimmo 100+ It all started because Nehru gave refuge to China's largest separatist party - The tibetian separatist party Pakistan gives refuge to Indian separatist parties and we get angry while Tibetan government in exile operates right from the heart of India If Nehru hadn't brought Tibetians in India we would have been China's strongest ally by now USA was with Pakistan in 1960s .. It was a golden opportunity for us but we let it go in drain @Playstation lol China has 10x more warheads than us .. Not just this but their nuclear warheads can carry fissile material in megatons while Indian warheads can just carry couple of hundred kilotons at the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The JACKAL Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 ^^What do u want our leaders do? Close off boders to fleeling tibetians and let them and their families get massacared?? Achivement unlocked *HEARTLESS SOB* . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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playstation Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Nimmo 100+ It all started because Nehru gave refuge to China's largest separatist party - The tibetian separatist party Pakistan gives refuge to Indian separatist parties and we get angry while Tibetan government in exile operates right from the heart of India If Nehru hadn't brought Tibetians in India we would have been China's strongest ally by now USA was with Pakistan in 1960s .. It was a golden opportunity for us but we let it go in drain You guys seriously compare Tibetians refugees to Pakistan based separatist...How many Tibetians have been involved in Bomb blasts in chian...hwo many have gone there and done something like 26 11 Mumbai like attack....all those poor guys do is self immolate themselves to protest against china's ....just amazing how you compare them to pakistan's separatist in so casual way... and china our strongest ally .....yea .. @Playstation lol China has 10x more warheads than us .. Not just this but their nuclear warheads can carry fissile material in megatons while Indian warheads can just carry couple of hundred kilotons at the best That is where we need to focus on this thing ...righit now ...it will require lot of planning and determination....Build up nuclear arsenal ...make a plan of 5-10 years....to make sure we have easily enough nukes with megatons and enough capability to strike china's anywhere... Look china is circling India from every side...sri lanka...pakistan...then there huge pressence on Indian ocean....not to forget road building right up to himalayas......all these are not to be taken lightly... some day they decide to get aggressive and send full force in arunachal pradesh....by the time we even react and manage to regroup supply and soldiers to send there...they would have already made much of impact...what will we do then....if they had even slightest interest of negotiations and friendliness with india they would have made lot of peaceful pacts with us and not gone to build military supply roads right up to high altitude borders with India ...and would have reacted positively to India's conern....they dont....never have ..they just f**king with us ...waiting for right time.... For us Indians ..our pride is lost...first the greeks then mughals.....british...now the chinese...jo jab chata hai chod kar ke chale jayega kya....not this time i say...I rather we take the enemy with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColorCodePurple Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 We dont stand a chance against china, and never will. You only need to go there once to figure that out. Best case for us, some godly force wipes china out, otherwise India is fukt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 We dont stand a chance against china, and never will. You only need to go there once to figure that out. Best case for us, some godly force wipes china out, otherwise India is fukt. We are f**ked ..yes but we can fuk them too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 No one is comparing tibetan refugees to terrorists. Its just that they are unnecessary burden for us. They add nothing to the country and bring us heat from the Chinese, heat which we can do without. Sure they are innocent and want freedom but we are not under any obligations to help them. Specially when helping them results in enmity from a powerful country. Is life fair for them ? No. Tough tomatoes.. Life is like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolfy among us Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 It's the duty of a nation to provide refuge. AFAIK. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeehunter Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 You guys seriously compare Tibetians refugees to Pakistan based separatist...How many Tibetians have been involved in Bomb blasts in chian...hwo many have gone there and done something like 26 11 Mumbai like attack....all those poor guys do is self immolate themselves to protest against china's ....just amazing how you compare them to pakistan's separatist in so casual way... and china our strongest ally .....yea .. That is where we need to focus on this thing ...righit now ...it will require lot of planning and determination....Build up nuclear arsenal ...make a plan of 5-10 years....to make sure we have easily enough nukes with megatons and enough capability to strike china's anywhere... Look china is circling India from every side...sri lanka...pakistan...then there huge pressence on Indian ocean....not to forget road building right up to himalayas......all these are not to be taken lightly... some day they decide to get aggressive and send full force in arunachal pradesh....by the time we even react and manage to regroup supply and soldiers to send there...they would have already made much of impact...what will we do then....if they had even slightest interest of negotiations and friendliness with india they would have made lot of peaceful pacts with us and not gone to build military supply roads right up to high altitude borders with India ...and would have reacted positively to India's conern....they dont....never have ..they just f**king with us ...waiting for right time.... For us Indians ..our pride is lost...first the greeks then mughals.....british...now the chinese...jo jab chata hai chod kar ke chale jayega kya....not this time i say...I rather we take the enemy with us. No one is comparing Tibetians with terrorists I am comparing separatist group with another (Both Tibetian government in exile and Lashkar groups are separatist to their respective countries ) What I meant to say is we unnecessarily fingered in the problems of some other unrelated country Tibetians were given exile in India in 1959 .. Indo China Skirmish took place in 1962 and we lost it badly China was friendly with India before we gave exile to the Tibetians China is circling us .. It is our failure that we aren't able to do the same Just 20 years back both India and China had similar population and economy .. Now they have 4x our GDP .. They could afford building nuclear arsenals while in our country malnutrition /poverty is so severe that India is one of the very few countries where thousands die of hunger every year We lost our pride .. It's our failure We were busy dividing ourselves according to caste , religion , creed .. Enemies just entered walking over the red carpet And China has faced similar times like we faced .. The only difference is that they suffered more torture by Imperalist Japan ( 20 million Chinese were brutally chopped to death by the Japs in 2nd Sino-japanese war ) British were saints compared to them Both China and India will improve their defences so that they won't face any such humiliating defeats again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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