cyclops Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Depends, lower mid-range cards do not have the muscle to pull of such high graphical fidelity. Anything below an AMD HD7870 and nVidia GTX660Ti is going to have to compromise somewhere. I think as time passes on....games are just going to get more taxing...i think the right time to build a PC is after the new range of AMD is out in the market...that will assure decent prices for 7970 and 7990 and also the gt700 series of nvidia. I think the lowest card that should be put in a system now is a 7970 or 680...anything below that would not last more than a year without compromising on the graphics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 I think the lowest card that should be put in a system now is a 7970 or 680...anything below that would not last more than a year without compromising on the graphics. Sadly this is the real world and not everyone can afford that level of performance, we shall see HD7850's and older HD6*** series cards to be in service for another year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagarjalvi Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 I need a new pc and my budget is 80k. Can someone help me build the pc? Requirement is gaming and other heavy software etc. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 What are the heavy software you would be using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagarjalvi Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 mostly need for gaming, software not much like JewelsCAD, photoshop etc. Priority is gaming. and only CPU needed. Already have monitor, mouse and keyboard. So only CPU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) ^^ Okay in that case, go for the following (assuming you are not over-clocking) Intel Core i7 4770 ~20000/- ASUS H87-PRO ~9500/- G.Skill RIPJAWS 8GB x2 1600MHz ~7500/- -->8000/- GIGABYTE / ASUS HD7970 3GB ~30000/- --> 34000/- Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB ~4000/- Seasonic M12II-650W ~6500/- Corsair Carbide 400R ~5000/- Hope this helps, Cheerio! Edited June 28, 2013 by ALPHA17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagarjalvi Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) Nvm .. Thanks ton bro Edited June 28, 2013 by sagarjalvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 ^^ Okay in that case, go for the following (assuming you are not over-clocking) Intel Core i5 4770 ~20000/- ASUS H87-PRO ~9500/- G.Skill RIPJAWS 8GB x2 1600MHz ~7500/- -->8000/- GIGABYTE / ASUS HD7970 3GB ~30000/- --> 34000/- Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB ~4000/- Seasonic M12II-650W ~6500/- Corsair Carbide 400R ~5000/- Hope this helps, Cheerio! Hey Alpha, if the primary use is software such as Photoshop - shouldnt AMD FX8350 be a better choice as its better in multiple threaded procesing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 if the primary use is software such as Photoshop - shouldnt AMD FX8350 be a better choice as its better in multiple threaded procesing ? The Core i7 4770 is a great processor for multi-tasking as well, draws lesser power and actually beats the FX-8350 in all benchmarks, real world or synthetic. AMD FX-8350 vs. Intel Core i7 4770k (stock) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varundbest Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Bro, thats not i5 4770, its i7 4770 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ΨΨ babloos ΨΨ Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Hey Alpha, if the primary use is software such as Photoshop - shouldnt AMD FX8350 be a better choice as its better in multiple threaded procesing ? ^^ Okay in that case, go for the following (assuming you are not over-clocking) Intel Core i7 4770 ~20000/- ASUS H87-PRO ~9500/- G.Skill RIPJAWS 8GB x2 1600MHz ~7500/- -->8000/- GIGABYTE / ASUS HD7970 3GB ~30000/- --> 34000/- Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB ~4000/- Seasonic M12II-650W ~6500/- Corsair Carbide 400R ~5000/- Hope this helps, Cheerio! i would recommend asus 770 gtx direct cu 2 over 7970 comes around same price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 i would recommend asus 770 gtx direct cu 2 over 7970 ^^ The GTX770 gets mauled in COMPUTE performance and in gaming is pretty much kept in check by the HD7970. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varundbest Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) ^^ How many Gtx 780's can be added to ASUS Z87-pro? And whats us with the speed of PCI-e ports, please enlighten me. And bro, i want to learn about SLI and Crossfire, i know they are interfaces Developed by Nvidia and AMD respectively. I want to learn about compatibility, of two cards,etc. . As you know, i want to build a PC with i7-477k (Will add cooler), ASUS Z87-pro, 2 or 4X 4GB 1600MHZ RAM and was thinking of GTX 780, kindly let me know about its best edition, my budget dont allow TITAN cards. I wish to do 3 monitor setup or 3D Gaming (Not together but it should be compatible for each) and have dual display 3D for 2 players (Like in PS3, with select games and models 2 players can play in 3D, each having full screen display on same screen). And i want ULTRA settings. Later on, i would like to add another card if this setup gets outdated. Please tell me about all the constraints i should know and possibilities. (i7 is for video editing and game/app development purposes, and 16GB for the same, ASUS Z87-pro is for built-in wifi and bluetooth) Please enlighten me and try to keep it simple and short. Thank You, VS Edited June 28, 2013 by varundbest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven Angel Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 ASUS Z87-pro supports Quad-GPU SLI / 3-Way CrossFireX , but you can add only 3x GTX 780 cards. SLI vs CrossFire: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/391 I prefer ASUS cards. So, ASUS GTX 780. You can check Gigabyte as well. (I'm using ASUS GTX 580 SLI and it's pretty good.) 3 monitor setup > 3D gaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varundbest Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 How come ony 3x 780's? Is it a dual slot card or what? i mean can you explain that plz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven Angel Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Only 3-way SLI option available. (not 100% sure, because it says TITAN 3 way, but I've see Quad SLI) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) ^^ Your answers Varun The motherboard (ASUS Z87-PRO) supports quad-SLi / tri-CrossFire-X set-ups. This means any four nVidia cards (x8/ x8/ x8/ x8 channel per card) or three AMD cards (x16/ x8/ x8 channel orientation) can be put on it. For AMD CrossFire to be implemented, you just need two cards from the same sub-family an HD7970 can be put into a configuration that already has a HD7950 on it (same with HD78** family). For nVidia card the components must be the same type, so a GTX780 will need another GTX780 and will not work with a GTX770. Currently most cards in wide retail circulation have only the capability of tri-SLi / CrossFire, there simply are not any more physical connectors to chain more cards together. Although quad-SLi / CrossFire has been implemented it has very high power consumption and corresponding performance increase not so much (at-least in gaming). IF YOU WANT 3D GAMING, you have to spend close to ~40000/- per monitor and 12000/- for the nVidia 3D vision kit. I doubt your budget allows this much flexibility. For graphic cards the brands to keep a look out for are, ASUS, GIGABYTE and ZOTAC! for nVidia and GIGABYTE, Sapphire, HIS for AMD. Best rule of thumb while purchasing a graphic card, look for the one with the highest core-clock, higher the core-clock more the performance, although for nVidia cards this means lower over-clocking potential. Also, all this requires you to add a more substantial SMPS to your build, minimum -- Seasonic SS1050-XM 1050 Watts. And, please, please, please get 2 x8GB memory modules not 4 x4GB. Hope this helps, Cheerio! Edited June 28, 2013 by ALPHA17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varundbest Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 whats up with x8/ x8/ x8/ x8 channel per card? Is it speed? Does it bottleneck? Cant i have x16 and x8 bi-SLI? And i wont be getting 3 3D monitors, i was saying i would either go for 3 monitor or 3D but the specs should be compatible of both, excluding 3 monitor setup of 3D in ULTRA. I only found 3 PCI-s slots on ASUS Z87-pro, what what were those small slots by their sides? Were they 6-pin slots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 whats up with x8/ x8/ x8/ x8 channel per card? Is it speed? Does it bottleneck? Cant i have x16 and x8 bi-SLI? And i wont be getting 3 3D monitors, i was saying i would either go for 3 monitor or 3D but the specs should be compatible of both, excluding 3 monitor setup of 3D in ULTRA. I only found 3 PCI-s slots on ASUS Z87-pro, what what were those small slots by their sides? Were they 6-pin slots? ^^ The nVidia 3D vision kit will work best with the 120Hz 3D monitors. This is because of higher the refresh-rate and thus smoother rendition of the games. 60Hz monitors can end up looking like consoles quality because of the lower refresh rate which caps the maximum frame rate at 60 fps which is further halved because the frames have to be divided between left glass shutter and the right shutter. Therefore not so smooth graphics. Intel Z87 chipset block diagram You cannot mix up channels Varun, depending on how many graphic cards you add to your configuration, the PCIe channels get divided. The north-bridge controller of the Z87 chipset has a limit of 8 PCIe 2.0 channels to control, these have to be divided between the various graphics card connectors (PCIe x16 slots) and the other PCIe x1.0 slots as well. The CPU itself holds a total of 16 PCIe 3.0 channels. Between this whole figure of 16 + 8 channels they can only accommodate any three SLi capable cards at an 8x/ 4x/ 4x/ 4x but this severally hampers most high end cards and therefore not a recommended set-up. For AMD this goes down because they can be only configured into 16x/ 8x/ 8x set-up. Refer to the block diagram if what I am saying does not make any sense. Are you talking of these slots (marked in red), those are PCIe x1 slots, they cannot mount graphic cards. Hope this helps, Cheerio! Also just for the record, is this the first time you are building a PC? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varundbest Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Yup, it is the first time, already saw tons of YT videos on building... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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