Gaming PCs

[ALPHA17]

Why not use Antec PSU's? or no support here?

 

Seasonic is the best when it comes to SMPS. And both have got poor after sales in India.

 

But rarely have I heard peeps complaint about Seasonic units failing on them. Every other company has its ups and downs, Seasonic because it is an OEM manages to keep itself ahead of the curve and deliver the quality needed,

[Heaven Angel]

ah, I see. Thanks^^

 

was checking and read this.

 

Actually built by HEC, CWT, Delta and Seasonic. Basiq line built by FSP.

 

 

Next time when I upgrade will check out Seasonic

(didn't know about PSU back then and purchased Antec. No issues so far though).

Edited July 22, 2013 by Heaven Angel

[ALPHA17]

Next time when I upgrade will check out Seasonic

 

FSP is another OEM that markets its own design, they are reliable too but generally a grade below Seasonic's best.

 

CWT is an OEM that supplies most of Corsair's line-up, they are decent although are known to cut corners time to time.

 

And then there are OEM's like SevenTeam which are generally considered the lowest of the reliable OEM's, their designs have been used by Cooler Master (all around), also retail their own kit in the US. Bargain buys but nothing special.

[Ethan Hunt]

Alpha - Which is better purely for a gaming setup at 1080p. Dont want to upgrade any component for 3-4 years and want to play at highest. Can OC the proc but i dont think it would make any diff in games.

 

1. FX8320 (~10k) + GTX 760 / HD 7950 (~23-24K) + 970 MB (~6-7k)

2. FX6300 (~6k) + GTX 770 / HD 7970 (~30k) + 970 MB (~6-7k)

 

Also, any comparable Intel based setups at same Proc+MB price points ? I want Socket LGA1150 ?

Edited July 23, 2013 by Ethan Hunt

[Heaven Angel]

That's some sh*t pricing. Difference between two is just 25 bucks, what's up with 4000 INR ~ 68 USD?

 

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Anyways, for gaming purpose 'only', go with FX 6300 + GTX 770 instead of FX 8320 + GTX 760

 

Tech specs are pretty much same. Also, you can over-clock FX 6300 better. (4.87-4.97 GHz)

[ALPHA17]

1. FX8320 (~10k) + GTX 760 / HD 7950 (~23-24K) + 970 MB (~6-7k)

2. FX6300 (~6k) + GTX 770 / HD 7970 (~30k) + 970 MB (~6-7k)

 

The second build shall be more efficient whilst gaming. Where are you getting the FX-6300 for so cheap, it generally retails close to ~8000/-.

 

For Intel, you will need this,

Intel Core i5 4430 / 4470 ~13500/-

ASRock H87 Pro 4 ~7000/-

(rest same as build 1 / 2 according to your budget)

 

Hope this helps, Cheerio!

 

Tech specs are pretty much same. Also, you can over-clock FX 6300 better. (4.87-4.97 GHz)

 

Over-clocking will not change the performance of the processor, starting from a weaker position it won't rise above the FX-8320.

 

AMD FX-6300 vs. FX-8320

 

Gaming performance though is close enough and that is what counts. Compared to a Core i5 (Ivy-Bridge) the FX-6300 comes off much worse, although anything over a stable 100fps and I don't think there should be any point of contention.

 

AMD FX-6300 vs. Intel Core i5 3570k

Edited July 23, 2013 by ALPHA17

[Solitaire]

Aren't Corsair's better power supplies like the AX series basically Seasonic's X series with some improvements? From all I've read online, it looks like the AX 750 was pretty much Seasonic's excellent SS-750KM (X 750). And I'm considering that one over the Seasonic itself for my build after looking at a ton of reviews.

[Akshay]

@Alpha,

 

I took your advice and bought the PC. I only have to buy graphic card now but I am in a big confusion as to which one I should buy.

 

Can you please help me out.

 

Which is better Zotac GTX 760 Amp Edition or ATI Sapphire 7950 3GB GDDR5. Can you also tell me if both will work on my borad. (ASROCK H87 pro4)

 

And any advice on what UPS I should purchase.

 

Thanks for the help.

[ALPHA17]

Aren't Corsair's better power supplies like the AX series basically Seasonic's X series with some improvements? From all I've read online, it looks like the AX 750 was pretty much Seasonic's excellent SS-750KM (X 750). And I'm considering that one over the Seasonic itself for my build after looking at a ton of reviews.

 

No, Seasonic makes the SMPS for Corsair after the latter provides them with the details. The AX series and AXi series are the only exception which I can confidently say are still provided with Seasonic (ONLY) and an added Corsair Link software console control system for GUI based monitoring of the SMPS vitals.

 

Earlier the entire Corsair SMPS line-up was technically Seasonic + CWT's best designs being put into circulation in tandem at various price points. Now Seasonic is completely alienated from the line-up (lives on in HX, AX series) and Corsair's standards are dropping like a rock (pun intended). Introduction of cheap SMPS systems like GS, VS in stead of the venerable VX and CX v2 line-up and charging a premium is piss poor.

 

Right now, knowing your options I would suggest Seasonic over all else, sure it may not have the best sheen but technically it aces everything the competition has to offer. Even Cooler Master is finally waking up to that fact, here it is in writing.

Which is better Zotac GTX 760 Amp Edition or ATI Sapphire 7950 3GB GDDR5. Can you also tell me if both will work on my borad. (ASROCK H87 pro4)

 

The GTX760 should work wonders if you are looking to only game on your system, if you find it priced ~23000/- anything above that then better to get the HD7950 3GB Boost edition ~23500/-.

And any advice on what UPS I should purchase.

 

APC is what I suggest.

 

Look for a ~700VA -->800VA system, it should give you between ~10 -->15 minutes of backup time.

 

Hope this helps, Cheerio!

Edited July 23, 2013 by ALPHA17

[Akshay]

Alright. Alpha thanks a lot man..

[Solitaire]

Yeah, I was definitely not looking at the cheaper PSUs from Corsair, only that one in particular from the AX series.

 

So yesterday I kinda broke down and got these components off Newegg because I had a bunch of coupons (and RAM prices seem to keep going up with no sign of a decrease anytime soon) that netted me a decent discount.

 

What I got yesterday:

• Noctua D14 - usually $80.99
• G Skill Sniper 16GB (2x8GB) 1866Mhz DDR3 CL9 - usually $136.99

Together the two things above ran me only $192 total after discount.

• Pioneer BDR-208DBK Blu Ray 15X Burner - Usually $59.99, I got it for $44.99.
• Seagate Constellation ES 2TB 7200RPM HDD - Usually $170-200, I got it for the great price of FREE That saved me quite some dough.

 

There's a nice discount on the RoG board ASUS Maximus VI Hero (been considering that motherboard over the Pro for sure and I'm unsure of needing most things on the Sabertooth compared to what the Hero offers).

It goes for $209 minimum but I can get it for $189 right now if I buy it before the 29th. What do you guys think? Yay or nay on the board? I don't need it immediately, since the GPU will probably be the last thing I buy (waiting for the AMD 8xxx/9xxx series to hopefully show up Oct-Nov this year) before assembling it, but whether the price a couple months later will be less than the price after-discount now is the question. The only other board I've looked at (and considered against the Maximus Hero) is the Gigabyte GA-Z87X-OC (not the force variant) which goes for $199.

 

Also, another discount on the Corsair HX850 showed up landing it at $129.99. Considering it, but still not sure I want to pull the trigger this soon or that I even want to go with this PSU as against the ones I mentioned earlier.

Edited July 24, 2013 by Solitaire

[Ethan Hunt]

 

The second build shall be more efficient whilst gaming. Where are you getting the FX-6300 for so cheap, it generally retails close to ~8000/-.

 

For Intel, you will need this,

Intel Core i5 4430 / 4470 ~13500/-

ASRock H87 Pro 4 ~7000/-

(rest same as build 1 / 2 according to your budget)

 

Hope this helps, Cheerio!

 

Sorry for the oversight - it is retailing close to 7k here in bangalore.

 

http://www.golchhait.com/index.php/build-ur-pc/product/2253-amd-fx-6300

 

Also in Binary World similiar pricing.

 

Now have to find cheapest price possible for GTX 770 / HD 7970. If the difference between those and GTX760/HD7950 is around 4-5k - i might go for them

[ALPHA17]

Sorry for the oversight - it is retailing close to 7k here in bangalore.

 

http://www.golchhait.com/index.php/build-ur-pc/product/2253-amd-fx-6300

 

Golccha generally does not update his site a whole lot, go to the shop on S.P. Road in person before ordering online.

 

Also, check Shweta Peripherals (run by a guy called Goutam) and Aashirwaad Computers.

 

Hope this helps, Cheerio!

[Solitaire]

 

 

There's a nice discount on the RoG board ASUS Maximus VI Hero (been considering that motherboard over the Pro for sure and I'm unsure of needing most things on the Sabertooth compared to what the Hero offers).

It goes for $209 minimum but I can get it for $189 right now if I buy it before the 29th. What do you guys think? Yay or nay on the board? I don't need it immediately, since the GPU will probably be the last thing I buy (waiting for the AMD 8xxx/9xxx series to hopefully show up Oct-Nov this year) before assembling it, but whether the price a couple months later will be less than the price after-discount now is the question. The only other board I've looked at (and considered against the Maximus Hero) is the Gigabyte GA-Z87X-OC (not the force variant) which goes for $199.

 

Also, another discount on the Corsair HX850 showed up landing it at $129.99. Considering it, but still not sure I want to pull the trigger this soon or that I even want to go with this PSU as against the ones I mentioned earlier.

 

Anybody? Do you think the motherboard will get any cheaper before December? And between those two... any opinions?

[AK77]

All PC parts go cheaper on black friday in US, so better to wait for it, if you are in no hurry.

Edited July 24, 2013 by AK77

[ALPHA17]

Anybody? Do you think the motherboard will get any cheaper before December? And between those two... any opinions?

 

If you can wait, Black Friday's are always there. If you cannot wait then I doubt it will plummet further.

[Solitaire]

All PC parts go cheaper on black friday in US, so better to wait for it, if you are in no hurry.

 

 

 

If you can wait, Black Friday's are always there. If you cannot wait then I doubt it will plummet further.

 

Hmm yes, Black Friday is there. But the way I was looking at it was based on prices over the last year. Camelcamelcamel.com and a bunch of other tools (like that pcpartpicker.com) seem to show a dip around Black Friday but the last dip seems to be matched by this present price (I mean after applying the $20 off coupon) for the motherboard. Then I went and looked at similar charts for previous flagship motherboards for Ivy and Sandy bridge and didn't notice much of a dip past the Black Friday prices even during regular sales / promos in the year after that Black Friday. So, I'm kinda torn between buying now and having most of the parts vs. waiting for (maybe the same and maybe a bit more) discount during Black Friday.

 

Also, what do you think about the Gigabyte Z87X-OC vs the ASUS Maximus VI Hero? The Hero's audio seems better but....

 

There was a decent discount on the 4770K at Amazon - 307 dollars or something, but because they tax you (and Newegg doesn't) it comes back to $339

 

Other parts I'm currently considering:

• Rosewill Thor V2 Black
• Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB
• Seasonic 750/760W or the Corsair AX 750/850.
• i7 4770K

Edit: Scratch that 4770K. I just bought it off Tigerdirect (no taxes charged) for $307 including shipping. Cheapest that even the 3770K has been is 299 during Black Friday (after taxes). So went for this deal. Next target is the motherboard. Come on guys, lend me your opinions - Z87X-OC vs Maximus VI Hero.

Edited July 24, 2013 by Solitaire

[ALPHA17]

You bought a processor already, pretty useless to keep it lying around like a fancy paper-weight then. Better get the board now as well. Just to get the base RIG up and about. Honestly, show some restraint on the graphic card front though. Another impulse purchase and you might end up regretting it.

Also, what do you think about the Gigabyte Z87X-OC vs the ASUS Maximus VI Hero? The Hero's audio seems better but.

 

What audio set-up do you plan to use along with your PC?

 

Apart from that both the motherboards have the same chipset at the heart of things so real life performance will be within hairs breadth of each other, not to mention that the over-clocking potential will also be evenly matched on standard air and water-loop systems.

 

As long as you don't have any leanings towards any company I will throw in my lot with the ASUS motherboard, simply because,

• better audio chip (a great plus if you use it along with an appropriate system)
• ASUS UEFI systems were better in the past, don't know if it still holds.
• clean layout, chunky buttons (although not the best layout)

GIGABYTE aces with a cleaner layout and better bundle (if you plan to over-clock at lot).

• Rosewill Thor V2 Black
• Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB
• Seasonic 750/760W or the Corsair AX 750/850.

 

Rosewill is not available in India so I cannot comment but it looks boss. =]

 

SAMSUNG 840 Pro is good, they seem to have outed a 1TB variant as well. For more news on the same, head here.

 

You already know my opinion on SMPS.

 

Hope this helps, Cheerio!

[The Wolfy among us]

I was overclocking my 760 to the specs which Anandtech has specified. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7103/nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-review/17

And the max temp of the gpu at 100% usage is ~75 degrees. Is this fine?

[ALPHA17]

I was overclocking my 760 to the specs which Anandtech has specified. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7103/nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-review/17

And the max temp of the gpu at 100% usage is ~75 degrees. Is this fine?

 

What application / program are you using to simulate load?

 

This is normal. As the GPU is rarely under 100% load continually, even whilst gaming.

 

Be careful though about continually using a heavily over-clocking component for extended times. Maybe down-clock it a little and use that as your daily use profile.

Edited July 25, 2013 by ALPHA17