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Finally got the Safi Aquashot and 2x Zionium crystals from carve of ded Safi.

Took me around 50 mins I guess since we had to start from scratch so 3x Safi quests back to back with some other teams also running the quest in the session.

 

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So I killed( or rather the other 3 guys did :P ) Alatreon, there's the special assignment now after which Fat-Alice gets unlocked, so what should I build for fatty?

People on the internet say switch axe sword mode is good, the strat is to clutch his face and then unload ZSD, so for that do I get an Alatreon Swaxe and go with an elemental build, or raging brachy swaxe or something else?

 

I have around 4 setups now, one is a longsword/MT one which I'll get the Goldian LS for or maybe Brachy LS, Aquashot sticky build, the Zinogre Shield HBG build and this elemental LBG build I used vs Alatreon, so are any of these good or should I switch to swagaxe for the big Fatty fight?

 

Also for Fatty, do I need to augment my weapons? or do base weapons work?

 

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4 hours ago, PhantomShade said:

So I killed( or rather the other 3 guys did :P ) Alatreon, there's the special assignment now after which Fat-Alice gets unlocked, so what should I build for fatty?

People on the internet say switch axe sword mode is good, the strat is to clutch his face and then unload ZSD, so for that do I get an Alatreon Swaxe and go with an elemental build, or raging brachy swaxe or something else?

 

I have around 4 setups now, one is a longsword/MT one which I'll get the Goldian LS for or maybe Brachy LS, Aquashot sticky build, the Zinogre Shield HBG build and this elemental LBG build I used vs Alatreon, so are any of these good or should I switch to swagaxe for the big Fatty fight?

 

Also for Fatty, do I need to augment my weapons? or do base weapons work?

 

 

The next special assignment is again Alatreon, albeit a nerfed version. So shouldn't be too difficult. 

 

ZSD spam is absolutely boring and is not recommended unless you're not familiar with it's core mechanics. This is going to be a very difficult fight in solo. You need to go in completely augmented, no two ways about it, else one-shot hits welcomes you to it's world. Pick a weapon you're perfectly comfortable with and roll with it. I'd advise against ranged (HBG/LBG) as you'd need something to reliably break it's head at least once before the 3rd phase, else it gains a blue flame attack which we one shot you if you get hit.

 

You'd just need to focus on 2 parts; head and chest. If you're good with the Greatsword, now's the time to use it. Get the Raging Brachy GS or Alatreon and start practicing. Use arsenal in that area; Ballista, Cannons, Turrets and one shot binder. Pop Heavy Artillery Jewels on your Temporal mantle to boost the cannon damage. YouTube the start phase with Ghillie mantle cannon for free damage and knock down (link below). 

 

 

Study all it's move sets, openings, weakness and i-Frame timings. Fire resistance needs to be in positive numbers as it's pretty much fire attacks non-stop. This is a battle you do no want to go in unprepared, just like Alatreon. This fight will make all of the Dark Souls boss battles look like cake-walk. :P 

 

Watch a few vids to get a basic understanding of it's fight mechanics. Rest is all about practice, just be prepared to die (a lot). My biggest advise would be to solo it as you'll truly feel victorious at the end, something like Rocky Balboa after battling Mr.T or Drago (minus the speech). This has turned out to be my best fight in the entire game and I have now literally slayed him like 120+ times (last I checked). You'll really need to earn this as the reward, as you know, is the most broken armour and weapons in the entire game. Go ahead mate and rock the show. Be sure to tell us how many times you got sish kebab'd later. ;) 

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20 hours ago, PhantomShade said:

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So I killed( or rather the other 3 guys did :P ) Alatreon, there's the special assignment now after which Fat-Alice gets unlocked, so what should I build for fatty?

People on the internet say switch axe sword mode is good, the strat is to clutch his face and then unload ZSD, so for that do I get an Alatreon Swaxe and go with an elemental build, or raging brachy swaxe or something else?

 

I have around 4 setups now, one is a longsword/MT one which I'll get the Goldian LS for or maybe Brachy LS, Aquashot sticky build, the Zinogre Shield HBG build and this elemental LBG build I used vs Alatreon, so are any of these good or should I switch to swagaxe for the big Fatty fight?

 

Also for Fatty, do I need to augment my weapons? or do base weapons work?

 

For fatalis, personally I would say go with great sword, alatreon great sword. Augmentation is a must, I died a lot and still do as I haven't been able to grind in guiding lands for materials for augmentation. It took me like 6-7 hrs of dying just to get my first kill, because I still don't have materials for augmentation and well to max out my damage I was using safi set without the health augment. So, won't recommend going unprepared like I did. Also, if you don't wanna go blind would recommend this guide by Gaijin hunter.

 

At the start would recommend using flinch shot and focusing on head to break its heads easier, add in part breaker for easy part break for the fight, also add in heavy artillery jewel to mow him down with weapons around the arena.

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5 hours ago, Satania said:

For fatalis, personally I would say go with great sword, alatreon great sword. Augmentation is a must, I died a lot and still do as I haven't been able to grind in guiding lands for materials for augmentation. It took me like 6-7 hrs of dying just to get my first kill, because I still don't have materials for augmentation and well to max out my damage I was using safi set without the health augment. So, won't recommend going unprepared like I did. Also, if you don't wanna go blind would recommend this guide by Gaijin hunter.

 

At the start would recommend using flinch shot and focusing on head to break its heads easier, add in part breaker for easy part break for the fight, also add in heavy artillery jewel to mow him down with weapons around the arena.

 

It's better than Brachy GS?

21 hours ago, Ethan_Hunt said:

 

The next special assignment is again Alatreon, albeit a nerfed version. So shouldn't be too difficult. 

 

ZSD spam is absolutely boring and is not recommended unless you're not familiar with it's core mechanics. This is going to be a very difficult fight in solo. You need to go in completely augmented, no two ways about it, else one-shot hits welcomes you to it's world. Pick a weapon you're perfectly comfortable with and roll with it. I'd advise against ranged (HBG/LBG) as you'd need something to reliably break it's head at least once before the 3rd phase, else it gains a blue flame attack which we one shot you if you get hit.

 

You'd just need to focus on 2 parts; head and chest. If you're good with the Greatsword, now's the time to use it. Get the Raging Brachy GS or Alatreon and start practicing. Use arsenal in that area; Ballista, Cannons, Turrets and one shot binder. Pop Heavy Artillery Jewels on your Temporal mantle to boost the cannon damage. YouTube the start phase with Ghillie mantle cannon for free damage and knock down (link below). 

 

 

Study all it's move sets, openings, weakness and i-Frame timings. Fire resistance needs to be in positive numbers as it's pretty much fire attacks non-stop. This is a battle you do no want to go in unprepared, just like Alatreon. This fight will make all of the Dark Souls boss battles look like cake-walk. :P 

 

Watch a few vids to get a basic understanding of it's fight mechanics. Rest is all about practice, just be prepared to die (a lot). My biggest advise would be to solo it as you'll truly feel victorious at the end, something like Rocky Balboa after battling Mr.T or Drago (minus the speech). This has turned out to be my best fight in the entire game and I have now literally slayed him like 120+ times (last I checked). You'll really need to earn this as the reward, as you know, is the most broken armour and weapons in the entire game. Go ahead mate and rock the show. Be sure to tell us how many times you got sish kebab'd later. ;) 

 

 

I used GS only throughout most of HR but now spoilt by Ranged options :P

Is LS ok for fatty? I find LS better mainly because of mobility without having to sacrifice on DPS, so If I'm going LS, should I go alatreon or Raging brachy LS?

I mean LS with 2-3 partbreaker jewels should be enough to break his head right? I know GS has some hidden part break modifier :fear:

 

Anyway I have no clue about the other weapons, but seeing the stats and ammo capacity on the fatty HBG the first time i was literally like this:eyepop:

Also Fatty beta armor has like 3x lvl4 deco slots for every single piece :fogug: Truly Ultimate Armor in the game, better get to MR100 for that Tempered Teo deco grind quest :P

 

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16 minutes ago, PhantomShade said:

Is LS ok for fatty? I find LS better mainly because of mobility without having to sacrifice on DPS, so If I'm going LS, should I go alatreon or Raging brachy LS?

 

Yep, LS is absolutely fine. Both are strong choices. Alatreon has larger purple sharpness and Brachy has blast. I'd probably go with Alatreon but feel free to pick whichever has the higher RAW attack. 

 

Most of your DPS focus should be on the chest and to build your spirit meter up for dropping the helm splitter on the head as soon as you get any long openings (eg: wide cone breath attack). Partbreaker should help you reach that threshold a bit faster. But do not ignore any other opening you may find between that to focus on head damage.

 

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3 hours ago, PhantomShade said:

 

It's better than Brachy GS?

 

 

I used GS only throughout most of HR but now spoilt by Ranged options :P

Is LS ok for fatty? I find LS better mainly because of mobility without having to sacrifice on DPS, so If I'm going LS, should I go alatreon or Raging brachy LS?

I mean LS with 2-3 partbreaker jewels should be enough to break his head right? I know GS has some hidden part break modifier :fear:

 

Anyway I have no clue about the other weapons, but seeing the stats and ammo capacity on the fatty HBG the first time i was literally like this:eyepop:

Also Fatty beta armor has like 3x lvl4 deco slots for every single piece :fogug: Truly Ultimate Armor in the game, better get to MR100 for that Tempered Teo deco grind quest :P

 

Ok so, from what I know, fatalis is quite resistant to blast, and quite weak against dragon element. So, personally I feel alatreon weapons are better for extra sharpness and high dragon element.

 

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So went up against the Big Bad today( the special assignment with A-Lister )

Most of his attacks 1 shotted me if i wasn't at full HP or blocking.

 

Also you have to hit his chest to make him flinch, then he gets on all fours, then you go for the head/ do a wallbang correct?

 

Now I went with an HBG, but can you hit the chest area with an LS/GS?

Or does the game count his full chest/crotch/legs are one giant hitbox?

 

I realized it's most cancerous when you maintain a distance from him, if you stick to his crotch it seems more manageable.

 

Anyway it looks like it's not possible to kill this big lizard without having upwards of 1k defense, for which I need those spirit vein gems that you get from T3 monsters, which are only unlocked at MR100 :(

 

I'm at MR85 rn, will be quite a while I guess :yawn:

 

They should've kept Fatty behind an MR100 lock tbh.

 

 

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On 9/19/2021 at 6:34 PM, PhantomShade said:

Also you have to hit his chest to make him flinch, then he gets on all fours, then you go for the head/ do a wallbang correct?

 

Yep, a wallbang when he's on all fours will net you the highest damage. Be careful though, when he drops after a flinch, it's a pin on the hunter. So if you don't maintain distance, you'll get pinned to the ground and take a huge damage.

 

The wide cone breath is where you'll have the best window for full head attack, slinger burst to TCS (if on GS) or Helm breaker (LS). With GS, you'll need quick sheath and evade window. Try a Frostcraft build if possible. See if you can add a few levels of divine blessing, it will save you in some tight situation, once it procs.

 

On 9/19/2021 at 6:34 PM, PhantomShade said:

Now I went with an HBG, but can you hit the chest area with an LS/GS?

Or does the game count his full chest/crotch/legs are one giant hitbox?

 

 Hind legs are independent. Chest are is pretty large, so the hitbox is very easy and can't be missed when he stand upright on his hindlegs. Clutch claw and tenderize and you'll see the full chest area that you can deal damage on. Wings, tail and fore legs can't be tenderized; wings can be broken (but not worth it). 

 

On 9/19/2021 at 6:34 PM, PhantomShade said:

Anyway it looks like it's not possible to kill this big lizard without having upwards of 1k defense, for which I need those spirit vein gems that you get from T3 monsters, which are only unlocked at MR100

 

Yep, augments and fire resistance can make the fight a bit bearable. Even with 1K+ defense, it still hits like a truck. You can get the Great Spiritvein gem (GSG) tempered Ruiner Nergi's quest 'Ode to Destruction' or something like that. It's a guaranteed 1 GSG at least. Can't remember it's MR requirement, but can't be higher than MR100, so that's the best quest if you need GSG; small area + spread 3 = insta-win. ;) 

 

On 9/19/2021 at 6:34 PM, PhantomShade said:

They should've kept Fatty behind an MR100 lock tbh.

 

Yeah I know. People were really annoyed when it got released and had such low MR requirement. You should have seen the SoS situations back then; it was cart-ville center, left, right & round. :P 

 

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I made this build on that honey hunter world builder as an anti-Fatty GS build, should be enough right?

I read that there aren't many openings for TCS in the fight, so crit draw/frostcraft was the way to go

 

I have all the jewels( except the hard fire res one :P ) in pic, my Safi GS isn't upgraded though will have to wait another 3-4 days for everyone's favorite red dragon to re-appear.

 

I'm MR85 now, so will have all this ready by the time I hit MR100, ready to whup that scaly black a*s.

Will be playing GS after a long time...

 

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Yep, that build looks perfect. Got all the essential stuff. You can stick more partbreaker jewels on the Glider mantle+. This mantle has the lowest cooldown time, so you should have it one on most of the hunt along with temporal mantle, which is a must. 

 

TCS openings are mostly when he's knocked down, tied down by the one-shot binder or para'd (if you're palico has a paralysis weapon). Till Safi gets back, craft the Alatreon or Raging Brachy GS and practice with them. You should be able to pull it off even without that Safi GS. 

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So just made this build with the Raging Brachy LS, actually managed to drop his health to 22%( as per wiki ) which triggered the cutscene on the special assignment which makes SOS Flares and MP available.

With  2 carts to spare, after which the spicy lizard sent me packing :(

 

Anyway good progress since last time with my Zino HBG and it's 3x shield mods and Guard 5, all that shield and guard was useless :rofl:

Atleast here i was able to keep to his chest/crotch and legs most of the time.

 

I also realized you cannot just cheeze this guy with either the spread HBG or sticky LBG/HBG, he's way more dangerous when you're at range, like literally so many ways to char-grill you.

 

Sticking to his legs is safest :fear:

Aside from the time where he does the fire puke.

I hate these fire puke moves >:(

 

Once I reach MR100, prolly will farm for more slots to add the one deco slot and augment all armor to max.

 

Also I like this lizard when he does all his special moves, complete with his dark souls like music, does justice to the MH lore of EDs being "Forces of Nature"

 

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This guy was the "end boss" even in MHF2 and MHFU on the PSP 10+ years ago

There are even now bad quality videos of 11 years back about this guy, so I just picked this cleaner video by this dude.

 

You had to download his quest as DLC, and I didn't have Wifi that time, still somehow downloaded it through wifi hotspot.

In the end couldn't defeat him, not even last 5 mins :rofl:

On PSP there was no online multiplayer, and neither were there nice items like farcaster or quick crafting or wearing ghillie mantle and shooting cannons at him so there was no chance at all.

I played MHF2 as an LS main only, since the bow and guns were utter sh*t, and the guard weapons were again sh*t with high stamina use, chip damage and knockback :lol:

It's only fitting I settle the score with this lizard once again with the LS, now empowered by Capcom with the power of anime weebery :bananasplit:

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Yea, most of the black dragons like alatreon or fatalis were end game boss for online multiplayer only in previous gen. Capcom didn't even marketed them as such, and they were still popular among players. Now, you can just get one copy on ppsspp and play online with hunsterverse network for old psp mh games like mhfu or mf3prd.

Also, I had great luck with respect to my save would crash each time I reached G rank. Happened thrice too, kek.

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Finally I am MR100.

Now onto Safi for his mats.

And grinding for GSV gems.

Also that tempered Teo quest for those sealed feystones.

 

idk why they kept Nergi for an MR100 mission, was a total pushover tbh.

They also removed his signature HR attacks, like the 360 sweep into the fist pound, or the divebomb once spikes turn black which launches spikes all around him.

 

On 9/22/2021 at 8:36 PM, Satania said:

Yea, most of the black dragons like alatreon or fatalis were end game boss for online multiplayer only in previous gen. Capcom didn't even marketed them as such, and they were still popular among players. Now, you can just get one copy on ppsspp and play online with hunsterverse network for old psp mh games like mhfu or mf3prd.

Also, I had great luck with respect to my save would crash each time I reached G rank. Happened thrice too, kek.

 

Just googled this, such a dedicated community to make this hunterverse thing, it was a pain back in the day on PSP you had to solo everything, today you can just SOS flare .

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btw what are the best regions to get to level 7

till now I have found out you need Tundra for Velkhana and guaranteed Tempered Nergi spawn, Volcanic for most tempered EDs and Rajang spawn, and Coral for Tempered Kirin/Nami.

Forest seems useless, and idk about rotten and wildspire.

 

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1 hour ago, PhantomShade said:

btw what are the best regions to get to level 7

till now I have found out you need Tundra for Velkhana and guaranteed Tempered Nergi spawn, Volcanic for most tempered EDs and Rajang spawn, and Coral for Tempered Kirin/Nami.

Forest seems useless, and idk about rotten and wildspire.

 

 

Depends on the augments you'd need. I'd  stick with Tundra, Volcanic & Coral at level 7. 

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7 hours ago, PhantomShade said:

Just googled this, such a dedicated community to make this hunterverse thing, it was a pain back in the day on PSP you had to solo everything, today you can just SOS flare .

 

Ye, I know. I have been with them folks since evolve days. At that time they would use evolve too hunt online on ppsspp, was fun times. Now it got too big and well, I kinda stopped after the mhw release.

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I just did one Safi seige like 2-3 quests with the same dudes.

The 2nd time we managed to break both horns because of me and this pro dude who started with aquashot and switched to some CB  later

I didn't get even a single horn :cry: but it gave me the zionium crystal instead :rofl:

 

 

I just need 2 horns for the Safi helm, rest of the set pieces i've already built

f*ck this rng.

 

Only good thing was that these dudes were fun to play with, one guy was doing wide range healing, all the other 3 were tenderizing his parts aside from the dude who helped with the wing and double head break.

Best bit was we put safi to sleep 3x times, everyone was smart enough to f*cking stop, everyone put the bombs at his head, i put the mines, and let the CB dude do his SAED <3

 

Really wish i had friends who played this instead of Dopa 2, these guys came close, no stupid sh*t at all.

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