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DRAGON QUEST XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age

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1 hour ago, playstationdude said:

Oh yeah! Action RPG DQ is the best DQ!:punk:

 

All the good/iconic DQ games have been turn based jrpgs, not action rpgs. This is where DQ has been different from FF games. They have hardly deviated from their traditional roots and i hope they don't. We hardly have any good turn-based jrpgs now. DQ11 was fantastic. 

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5 minutes ago, Sach4life said:

 

All the good/iconic DQ games have been turn based jrpgs, not action rpgs. This is where DQ has been different from FF games. They have hardly deviated from their traditional roots and i hope they don't. We hardly have any good turn-based jrpgs now. DQ11 was fantastic. 

Turn based gameplay belongs in the 90s. The combat system of FF7 remake (hybrid of turn based and action rpg) is the true evolution. 

 

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24 minutes ago, playstationdude said:

Turn based gameplay belongs in the 90s. The combat system of FF7 remake (hybrid of turn based and action rpg) is the true evolution. 

 

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Do you even persona, bro. 

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2 hours ago, playstationdude said:

Oh yeah! Action RPG DQ is the best DQ!:punk:

 

1 hour ago, Sach4life said:

 

All the good/iconic DQ games have been turn based jrpgs, not action rpgs. This is where DQ has been different from FF games. They have hardly deviated from their traditional roots and i hope they don't. We hardly have any good turn-based jrpgs now. DQ11 was fantastic. 


JRPG devs are trying out both action and turn based entries in their franchises  -  Persona (turn based) has Persona Scramble (action) , Yakuza (action) has Yakuza 7 (turn based). Dragon Quest Infinity Strash is action based game spin-off and DQ12 will likely be turn based again. Also, Falcom keeps releasing awesome The Legend of Heroes games with turn based gameplay and Ys games with action gameplay. There is market for both type of games to co-exist.
 

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JRPG devs are trying out both action and turn based entries in their franchises  -  Persona (turn based) has Persona Scramble (action) , Yakuza (action) has Yakuza 7 (turn based). Dragon Quest Infinity Strash is action based game spin-off and DQ12 will likely be turn based again. Also, Falcom keeps releasing awesome The Legend of Heroes games with turn based gameplay and YS games with action gameplay. There is market for both type of games to co-exist.
I am fine with that. Problem i have is when people start clamouring for every game to move away from turn based combat system.

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2 minutes ago, GeraltOfRivia said:

 


JRPG devs are trying out both action and turn based entries in their franchises  -  Persona (turn based) has Persona Scramble (action) , Yakuza (action) has Yakuza 7 (turn based). Dragon Quest Infinity Strash is action based game spin-off and DQ12 will likely be turn based again. Also, Falcom keeps releasing awesome The Legend of Heroes games with turn based gameplay and Ys games with action gameplay. There is market for both type of games to co-exist.
 

Persona scramble is a musou spin off. It's dynasty warriors with a persona skin not persona with real time combat. 

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6 minutes ago, Joe Cool said:

Turn-based over awesome button combat all day every day. Action RPGs gets boring when it offers so little variety and often ends up in repetition. 

 

Also both Persona 5 and DQ11 are better than FF7. 😉

 

:rofl:

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Joe Cool said:

Turn-based over awesome button combat all day every day. Action RPGs gets boring when it offers so little variety and often ends up in repetition. 

 

Also both Persona 5 and DQ11 are better than FF7. 😉


And for many, Witcher/DarkSouls/Bloodborne/FF7R  are better than Persona5/DQ11.. there is no need to compare, everyone has their preference.

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2 minutes ago, GeraltOfRivia said:

And for many, Witcher/DarkSouls/Bloodborne/FF7R  are better than Persona5/DQ11.. there is no need to compare, everyone has their preference.

 

The comparison is between turn based games and how they are moving towards action combat. Turn-Based high profile RPGs are a rarity these days. I wouldn't want traditional TB games move towards action. We already have plenty of them. 

 

17 minutes ago, PhantomShade said:

:rofl:

 

You have played none of those games...just like The Last of Us, but continue trolling. 🤦

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8 minutes ago, Joe Cool said:

 

The comparison is between turn based games and how they are moving towards action combat. Turn-Based high profile RPGs are a rarity these days. I wouldn't want traditional TB games move towards action. We already have plenty of them.


I get your concern but I think Final Fantasy is the only franchise that changed from turn based to action for mainline entries, and hopefully they will come around for another turn based entry.
For Dragon Quest though, I am sure 12th one will be turn based again.
 

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Just now, GeraltOfRivia said:


I get your concern but I think Final Fantasy is the only franchise that changed from turn based to action for mainline entries, and hopefully they will come around for another turn based entry.
For Dragon Quest though, I am sure 12th one will be turn based again.
 

 

It is not just about franchises which have turned away from turn based combat, the thing is that there were so many fantastic turn based JRPG franchises (like Suikoden, Wild Arms etc.) which cease to exist now.

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5 hours ago, GeraltOfRivia said:

 


JRPG devs are trying out both action and turn based entries in their franchises  -  Persona (turn based) has Persona Scramble (action) , Yakuza (action) has Yakuza 7 (turn based). Dragon Quest Infinity Strash is action based game spin-off and DQ12 will likely be turn based again. Also, Falcom keeps releasing awesome The Legend of Heroes games with turn based gameplay and Ys games with action gameplay. There is market for both type of games to co-exist.
 

 

You should not speak of Persona. They try out every type of gameplay, not just Action. And if you include the non-Persona titles - you literally have almost all types of gameplay. You have mainline Persona Games (JRPG), Persona Scramble (Musou/Dynasty Warriors), Persona Arena (Fighting game like SoulCalibur/Tekken), Persona Dancing (Dancing/Rythm Game), Persona Q (Dungeon Crawler), Persona 4 The Card Battle (Mobile Card Game). I think the only spin-offs left are Racing Games, MMO, Cooking Game, Farming Sim, FPS and TPS. And that might be coming soon enough as well. They also have Persona manga, anime, music concerts (Including cosplay concerts) and live action shows. If there is one thing Atlus does - it's milk Persona a lot.

 

As far as Dragon Quest is concerned, this is not the first time the series has gone out of Turn Based JRPG. You have Dragon Quest Heroes (Musou/ Dynasty Warriors Type Game) and Dragon Quest Builders ( Construction Game).

 

So long as these games are spin-offs it's absolutely fine. these are just quick cash-grabs (Including Infinity Slash), nothing more. And most of the time, these are all given to 3rd party devs to develop. The main dev team does not work on these (For both Persona and DQ). So for all you guys - no need to get worked up.

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39 minutes ago, roun90 said:

 

You should not speak of Persona. They try out every type of gameplay, not just Action. And if you include the non-Persona titles - you literally have almost all types of gameplay. You have mainline Persona Games (JRPG), Persona Scramble (Musou/Dynasty Warriors), Persona Arena (Fighting game like SoulCalibur/Tekken), Persona Dancing (Dancing/Rythm Game), Persona Q (Dungeon Crawler), Persona 4 The Card Battle (Mobile Card Game). I think the only spin-offs left are Racing Games, MMO, Cooking Game, Farming Sim, FPS and TPS. And that might be coming soon enough as well. They also have Persona manga, anime, music concerts (Including cosplay concerts) and live action shows. If there is one thing Atlus does - it's milk Persona a lot.

 

As far as Dragon Quest is concerned, this is not the first time the series has gone out of Turn Based JRPG. You have Dragon Quest Heroes (Musou/ Dynasty Warriors Type Game) and Dragon Quest Builders ( Construction Game).

 

So long as these games are spin-offs it's absolutely fine. these are just quick cash-grabs (Including Infinity Slash), nothing more. And most of the time, these are all given to 3rd party devs to develop. The main dev team does not work on these (For both Persona and DQ). So for all you guys - no need to get worked up.


I am not worked up about spin offs and gave example of turn based (mainline) Persona series having recent action based spin off to compare it with the same thing happening for Dragon Quest with Infinity Strash spin off. So, I don't understand why you feel that I should not speak of Persona.
 

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