KnackChap Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 By stats you mean KD ratio right. So if it matches similar skilled players why are people against it? The only reason i can think of because it might not match the players from your region. This might be an issue for other MP games but for a title as popular as cod youll easily find similar skilled players nearby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanjosh Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, KnackChap said: know it means skill based match making not super brothers mario maker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV1709 Posted September 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, KnackChap said: By stats you mean KD ratio right. So if it matches similar skilled players why are people against it? The only reason i can think of because it might not match the players from your region. This might be an issue for other MP games but for a title as popular as cod youll easily find similar skilled players nearby. There are pros and cons to it The pro is new players who don’t play as often as say the core people will not get bulldozed and will play with people who are ‘at their skill.’ We don’t know what factors sbmm takes into consideration but KD is one of them for sure. Helps Activision sell the game throughout the year as new guys who come in six months after launch don’t feel they’re behind Cons are you never actually feel a sense of progression because every match you play is against people who are in your skill range and so it becomes a sweatfest Edited September 19, 2020 by RV1709 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) No. CoD is or was CBMM. Connection based matchmaking. Just put in you with team with best ping around you. Can have same skill or higher or lower. Matches are less sweaty. Lots of casuals. SBMM is good but after a certain level you won't move up much and pretty much every match is going to be sweaty. Smurfs also rise. It kills casual playerbase and which is why lots are complaining. Most games have ranked playlist which is SBMM while QP/casual modes don't have SBMM. Edited September 19, 2020 by Joe Cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnackChap Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Both sledgehammer cod games have SBMM. not sure about blackops 3 (dont think it did), infinite warfare MP was sh*t so didnt bother after a couple of hrs and never played black ops 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanjosh Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe Cool said: . Matches are less sweaty What does sweaty mean here? 1 hour ago, adity said: I'm pretty sure overwatch and rocket league have SBMM Overwatch has an Elo rating system. Dunno if its the same thing as SBMM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, dylanjosh said: What does sweaty mean here? Overwatch has an Elo rating system. Dunno if its the same thing as SBMM sweaty as in everyone in the lobby is tryharding. To put it in OW perspective - Ranked matches are generally sweaty, while quick play is a much more relaxed experience. ELO system is used by many competitive MP games to match similar skilled players in competitive matches. I dont know how ELO is different from SBMM. If SBMM is implemented in quick play or non ranked playlists, tryhards wont be able to pub stomp often. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashmeet Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, Keano said: sweaty as in everyone in the lobby is tryharding. To put it in OW perspective - Ranked matches are generally sweaty, while quick play is a much more relaxed experience. ELO system is used by many competitive MP games to match similar skilled players in competitive matches. I dont know how ELO is different from SBMM. If SBMM is implemented in quick play or non ranked playlists, tryhards wont be able to pub stomp often. Not to mention most of us in India play at a ping disadvantage so playing an equal skilled player is no fun that way. I'm still struggling with audio cues in the game. Its all over the place, the bullet sounds are so f**king bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, Rashmeet said: Not to mention most of us in India play at a ping disadvantage so playing an equal skilled player is no fun that way. I'm still struggling with audio cues in the game. Its all over the place, the bullet sounds are so f**king bad iirc, Destiny 1 struggled to maintain the PvP balance because of SBMM and the also being restrictive with the geo locale range in which they were search for those similar skilled players. It resulted in long queues. They increased the range and then laggy matches. It is really tough to have a really good balance with SBMM. Overwatch is the most balanced ranked system I could think of that I played. The only problem OW has is smurfs(not alt accounts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashmeet Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 I hope they remove SBMM in pubs and put that in CDL playlists or something. Sweaty game as is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 6 hours ago, dylanjosh said: What does sweaty mean here? Essentially higher ranked match lobbies get more competitive players who're not playing casually, they're grinding to win and bump their stats or K/D. It can get really annoying sometimes, 5 different people sitting in 5 different corners just pinging each other with snipers for minutes at a time. What you would like to do is go in ballista blazing, but you can't do that now because even if you kill 1 dude, more good players will immediately pounce on you to secure a free kill. Its less fun, and a lot more competitive. Encourages camping in games like Apex. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV1709 Posted September 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 Sbmm has always existed in cod but it’s been dialed up in the last two cods. I think it’s fair to casual players who don’t play it often. The pros are crying because they can’t call in a chopper gunner every match. Anyway, it’s not like you will always have sweaty matches. Modern Warfare’s SBMM went by performance in last 5 matches and not overall so things to ease up if you’re not doing crazy well in 5 matches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, RV1709 said: Sbmm has always existed in cod but it’s been dialed up in the last two cods. I think it’s fair to casual players who don’t play it often. The pros are crying because they can’t call in a chopper gunner every match. Anyway, it’s not like you will always have sweaty matches. Modern Warfare’s SBMM went by performance in last 5 matches and not overall so things to ease up if you’re not doing crazy well in 5 matches SBMM has always been in cod games, but as the months go on, the matches are no longer fun, every match is sweaty. Pro players whine because all they want is to pub stomp and make montages. They'll game the system to smurf/reverse boost to get shitty lobbies in order to make their ' OMFG GOT 30 KILLS WITH THE UZI, YOU WON'T WANT TO MISS THIS SETUP' with their shocked faces as the video thumbnail 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 SBMM was only there for ranked modes and that is completely normal. Nobody cares about that. Adding SBMM outside ranked mode in public playlists is what makes people angry. AW had it previously and that died fast. BO3 added it later but community went mad and so devs removed it. Nobody wants to sweat in 24/7 and especially not in non-ranked modes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV1709 Posted September 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 What a blast! 12v12 mode on armada is legit fun. Got back to back chopper gunners before the alpha got over 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnackChap Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 The gun sounds are so so bad. Hope they fix it in the final version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV1709 Posted September 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 10 hours ago, KnackChap said: The gun sounds are so so bad. Hope they fix it in the final version Yes compared to modern warfare, it sounds fake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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