KunjanPSD Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said: Nobody can. CRISPR will create havoc, sooner or later. Some ethical countries might stop, China won't, the race will be on, and everybody will get on the bandwagon. Have been following Crispr-Cas9 for years now. There is no way its use is being restricted. Fascinating yet dangerous. Also, Rallis is into Crispr for agro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 50 minutes ago, Big Boss said: https://m.timesofindia.com/city/mumbai/10-days-into-july-maharashtra-has-added-2k-old-deaths/articleshow/84329526.cms#_ga=2.258327305.2060067978.1622605233-amp-m_WUwnsb6xszxV8_cm7wj4zd3ZjzZZCbm24RcXB4k_GOTxJ1nLmgEOd08EFeoZrk Deaths keep adding up. Pune leads in everything. Now the theory of 3x -5x actual deaths compared to official figures doesn't seem so far fetched Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Right Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 hours ago, dante77 said: This is exactly what I predicted In April. Whatever happens, they'll just say they handled the situation very well and the entire world is envious of our CM. I knew some minister in foreign country will even come out and say something like this If nothing, they'll just say at least he handled it better than X guy in X state. Kerala pop 3.5cr - cases 30L UP pop 20cr - cases 17L I can post 50 articles praising Kerala model, some even in International media. Can you find just 5 for UP? Point is that those who have failed have been made winners by pliable media. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 Everybody & their moms know that cases & death numbers were suppressed in UP unlike no place in India probably the world if you keep aside China & North Korea So let’s not go there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, AnK said: Everybody & their moms know that cases & death numbers were suppressed in UP unlike no place in India probably the world if you keep aside China & North Korea So let’s not go there That’s the easiest escape. Low numbers - state hasn’t done well, cuz it’s most likely fudging data — UP Very high numbers - state has done well cuz it’s not hiding numbers — Kerala Edited July 12, 2021 by Right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Bird Bird Bird said: Nobody can. CRISPR will create havoc, sooner or later. Some ethical countries might stop, China won't, the race will be on, and everybody will get on the bandwagon. Mankind is its own enemy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 32 minutes ago, Right said: That’s the easiest escape. Low numbers - state hasn’t done well, cuz it’s most likely fudging data — UP Very high numbers - state has done well cuz it’s not hiding numbers — Kerala Up is notorious for its reporting systems, be it crimes or deaths. It's no secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, iam said: I'm from UP. It's not "managed well" by any stretch of imagination. People are dying left and right. Baldy and his minions are just amazing at propaganda. UP brofist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AnK Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 UK 34,000 cases & 6 deaths India 37,000 cases & 2K deaths If this is not a sign of vaccine effect then I don’t know what to believe anymore Get it in your system asap ppl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KnackChap Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, AnK said: UK 34,000 cases & 6 deaths India 37,000 cases & 2K deaths If this is not a sign of vaccine effect then I don’t know what to believe anymore Get it in your system asap ppl India data for yesterday added 1.5k backdated deaths from MP alone where the new cases are just 18. And the effect of UK's new cases will be felt in 7-10 days time and not instantly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 minute ago, KnackChap said: India data for yesterday added 1.5k backdated deaths from MP alone where the new cases are just 18. And the effect of UK's new cases will be felt in 7-10 days time and not instantly. but still 2 days ago India was at 34k & 1.3k deaths Also even in second wave in UK itself when cases were raging near 34k deaths was around 700 That’s like around 100% drop in mortality rate So there is definitely something different happening in their third wave only thing that might have changed is the herd immunity level due to virus running across population & 50% population fully vaccinated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 In addition to vaccines, maybe they have sufficient oxygen supplies and life saving drugs which they didn't have during wave 1. And ofcourse they have learnt about better patient care and management over the course of one year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Right Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 hours ago, AnK said: but still 2 days ago India was at 34k & 1.3k deaths MH reconciled their deaths 2 days back and added 400 missedout numbers. See things at 7 day moving average. Not saying that vaccination doesnt have any benefit at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 Just now, Right said: MH reconciled their deaths 2 days back and added 400 missedout numbers. See things at 7 day moving average. Not saying that vaccination doesnt have any benefit at all. The question to ask is, how long does the vaccine immunity last. There may be a case that someone, fully vaccinated, might get susceptible to the virus again after few months. This is specially true in india as vaccinating 70% of the population would require close to one whole year or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazyniks Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 46 minutes ago, radicaldude said: The question to ask is, how long does the vaccine immunity last. Pretty sure no one knows yet. It's a new disease so research is still on going . Also don't see any point worrying or reading too much now . Just do what you can - get vaccinated and still take precautions . This virus ain't going away anytime soon . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 hour ago, radicaldude said: The question to ask is, how long does the vaccine immunity last. There may be a case that someone, fully vaccinated, might get susceptible to the virus again after few months. This is specially true in india as vaccinating 70% of the population would require close to one whole year or more. The whole point about this problem you just mentioned was to prioritise tightly packed urban areas Vaccinate the dense population asap to reduce mutations & spreading into the outskirts But Le Govt. sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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