Sach4life Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 18 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said: What a snoozefest Apple device launch program! Felt everyone ran out of steam. Anybody who bought any iPhone till 15 is suckerpunched. Why, what happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanjosh Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 I love the inclusion of the camera dedicated button. My first phone was a Sony Ericsson phone - i loved having the button and have missed it ever since. Hope other Android brands copy it now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 32 minutes ago, Sach4life said: Why, what happened? No Apple Intelligence. Starts from 15 Pro. Apple moved base iPhone 16 to A18 chip - which essentially shows even 15 Pro is underpowered for Apple Intelligence. So anyone with a less than year old phone will not get new features for rest of phone life. My take is Apple did not anticipate such exponential rise in AI by Google etc (and demand from wall Street) - feel so since Apple Intelligence seems half baked. They demoed finding step by step instructions to change a particular setting yday - hilarious since it's not really intelligence but just deep contextual search. Intelligence would be Siri guiding you step by step as you navigate the menus. Most of the other stuff is...gimmicky? After the first few tries, how many will generate new pics (you can do that with SwiftKey on ios since ~ a year)? Contenxual writing is anyway possible with plethora of tools. Sure, ios 18 gets these done quickly with OS level integration, but Apple is only catching up. Don't feel there's anything new. Overtime though, surely innovative use cases will appear, and anyone with 15 or less will be forced to upgrade. Very visible planned obsolescence. 22 minutes ago, dylanjosh said: I love the inclusion of the camera dedicated button. My first phone was a Sony Ericsson phone - i loved having the button and have missed it ever since. Hope other Android brands copy it now lol Only useful in landscape mode, will be awkward in portrait (which is most of the photos and videos due to reels, shorts etc). Ever since Nikon introduced Wifi in their mirrorless, I'm using phone camera less and less. Sharing is painless and you can quick edit on phone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZooZoo Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 38 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said: No Apple Intelligence. Starts from 15 Pro. Apple moved base iPhone 16 to A18 chip - which essentially shows even 15 Pro is underpowered for Apple Intelligence. So anyone with a less than year old phone will not get new features for rest of phone life. My take is Apple did not anticipate such exponential rise in AI by Google etc (and demand from wall Street) - feel so since Apple Intelligence seems half baked. They demoed finding step by step instructions to change a particular setting yday - hilarious since it's not really intelligence but just deep contextual search. Intelligence would be Siri guiding you step by step as you navigate the menus. Most of the other stuff is...gimmicky? After the first few tries, how many will generate new pics (you can do that with SwiftKey on ios since ~ a year)? Contenxual writing is anyway possible with plethora of tools. Sure, ios 18 gets these done quickly with OS level integration, but Apple is only catching up. Don't feel there's anything new. Overtime though, surely innovative use cases will appear, and anyone with 15 or less will be forced to upgrade. Very visible planned obsolescence. Only useful in landscape mode, will be awkward in portrait (which is most of the photos and videos due to reels, shorts etc). Ever since Nikon introduced Wifi in their mirrorless, I'm using phone camera less and less. Sharing is painless and you can quick edit on phone. Not all the features can be called gimmicky. I'm on the 18.1 Beta and two features which I've been extensively using and cant imagine using a phone without is the Writing Tools and Image Cleaner. Writing tools are intuitive and very helpful in drafting messages and rewriting them using AI. Its always there and more often than not, it might even suggest using the tool if you just highlight the text. Image cleaner is just like magic eraser and pretty damn good. Finally I can stop sharing the pics to my Samsung Tab to erase few people and then sending it back to iphone. Having option to do it natively is godsend. There are other nifty features like quick access to Siri by double tapping the bottom of homepage and carrying the conversation only in text. Very useful for scenarios where you cant speak. For anyone on 15Pro or max, the event was definitely a let down in terms of hardware that was shown. Just a bump up in chipset and a dedicated camera button is not a reason for anyone to jump ship. I would wait for iPhone 17 and see what changes they do in it. If anyone is interested just for the button, better get he Bang case and use that instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 (edited) 16 minutes ago, ZooZoo said: Not all the features can be called gimmicky. I'm on the 18.1 Beta and two features which I've been extensively using and cant imagine using a phone without is the Writing Tools and Image Cleaner. Writing tools are intuitive and very helpful in drafting messages and rewriting them using AI. Its always there and more often than not, it might even suggest using the tool if you just highlight the text. Image cleaner is just like magic eraser and pretty damn good. Finally I can stop sharing the pics to my Samsung Tab to erase few people and then sending it back to iphone. Having option to do it natively is godsend. There are other nifty features like quick access to Siri by double tapping the bottom of homepage and carrying the conversation only in text. Very useful for scenarios where you cant speak. For anyone on 15Pro or max, the event was definitely a let down in terms of hardware that was shown. Just a bump up in chipset and a dedicated camera button is not a reason for anyone to jump ship. I would wait for iPhone 17 and see what changes they do in it. If anyone is interested just for the button, better get he Bang case and use that instead. Agree since you've 15 PM. For anyone who spent a good chunk of money on 15 or previous phones, IOS 18 is kinda useless as marquee feature is AI, and those phones will never get it. I don't think any Apple product has been so quickly obsolete in Apple's history! For image edits, already using Google's tools and they are pretty decent. However, I am old school with minimal edits. Think composition first and editing later, so only tuning colors etc. Touch Retouch did magic disappear well before Google and Apple btw. One time purchase. Edited September 10 by Bird Bird Bird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 I always use volume buttons for clicking pics. My first smartphone was from Sony and it had dedicated camera button. But thankfully, all smartphones I've used give option to click photos from volume control physical button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZooZoo Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 44 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said: Agree since you've 15 PM. For anyone who spent a good chunk of money on 15 or previous phones, IOS 18 is kinda useless as marquee feature is AI, and those phones will never get it. I don't think any Apple product has been so quickly obsolete in Apple's history! For image edits, already using Google's tools and they are pretty decent. However, I am old school with minimal edits. Think composition first and editing later, so only tuning colors etc. Touch Retouch did magic disappear well before Google and Apple btw. One time purchase. Yes but magic eraser does helpout in cleaning up those images where you have a nice background but someone has photobombed it. Think some good tourists place where its near impossible to get a good pic without anyone bombing it. I had a recent trip to Hampi and so many pics were ruined by people doing stupid stuff in background. Apple's magic eraser came through big time. I was specially impressed on how it was able to generate the background of some monument which had carvings on it. It was unbelievable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZooZoo Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 (edited) 12 minutes ago, dante77 said: I always use volume buttons for clicking pics. My first smartphone was from Sony and it had dedicated camera button. But thankfully, all smartphones I've used give option to click photos from volume control physical button. Dedicated shutter does help and I do hope this becomes a norm. I had used the shutters back in Nokia Lumia days where you could half press the shutter to focus and full press for clicking it. Apple's version seems even more advanced version of it and I will be more than happy if industry gets behind it and copies in all the future phones. Edited September 10 by ZooZoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 8 minutes ago, ZooZoo said: Dedicated shutter does help and I do hope this becomes a norm. I had used the shutters back in Nokia Lumia days where you could half press the shutter to focus and full press for clicking it. Apple's version seems even more advanced version of it and I will be more than happy if industry gets behind it and copies in all the future phones. Yeah of course I would love a dedicated camera in smartphones too. And you just reminded me of the feeling of partial clicking to focus. Clicking on the button partially focuses in such a cool way on Sony phones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushab oswal Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 if i dont use the AI , 15 is good enough right ? dont like spending obscene amount of money on phones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 (edited) 12 minutes ago, rushab oswal said: if i dont use the AI , 15 is good enough right ? dont like spending obscene amount of money on phones. Everything will likely go the AI way in coming future. Don't waste money on 15 now. It's obsolete. Edited September 10 by Bird Bird Bird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushab oswal Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 36 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said: Everything will likely go the AI way in coming future. Don't waste money on 15 now. It's obsolete. 16 is like 75k now XD will get 15 and change next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 I like that 16 Pro got a screen size bump, which means I can ignore Max entirely now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheK Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 heyyyyyy they launched the iphone 11 again!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 (edited) 33 minutes ago, rushab oswal said: 16 is like 75k now XD will get 15 and change next year. Price comparison across markets Not much difference in 16/16 Plus with card offers. Pro/Pro max is another shitshow like every year. Edited September 10 by Bird Bird Bird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 10 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said: Price comparison across markets Not much difference in 16/16 Plus with card offers. Pro/Pro max is another shitshow like every year. Breh, since when did Japan become "no or easy visa"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 1 minute ago, CarbonCore said: Breh, since when did Japan become "no or easy visa"? If you approach via Daku, it is easy. Lol. He is also advertising his visa services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 Just now, Bird Bird Bird said: If you approach via Daku, it is easy. Lol. He is also advertising his visa services. Lmao I had no idea. Now I know where I'm going next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanjosh Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 Do they offer international warranty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheK Posted September 10 Report Share Posted September 10 Some one tell Daku there is something called Sales Tax also, man ppl are so f**ckin free these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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