hsk_colossus Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 minute ago, AnK said: Also I feel they shouldn’t have removed the VATS system….that’s what separates an RPG from Shooters. This isn’t fallout… combat is great in this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 46 minutes ago, hsk_colossus said: This isn’t fallout… combat is great in this But why remove the option in anycase… Those who don’t want could simply not use/turn off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsk_colossus Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 minute ago, AnK said: But why remove the option in anycase… Those who don’t want could simply not use/turn off. VATS is in fallout series… they didn’t “remove” it from starfield because it was never there … I am personally glad it’s not there because it would have slowed down the combat.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 56 minutes ago, AnK said: Always played Bethesda games Third Person in exploration & First person in Combat/Investigation. Works best. Also I feel they shouldn’t have removed the VATS system….that’s what separates an RPG from Shooters. It has all the trappings of an RPG. Much more than Fallout 4. Stealth kills, turn enemies against one another etc. VATS system was a necessity in Fallout 3, here combat is fun without it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 On 9/8/2023 at 11:23 AM, Vamos said: Even in main quests, you would need to at least match the enemy level. Else the combat will be difficult and you’ll take more damage even in easy mode. Just killed an enemy 8 levels above me yesterday. I was lvl 4, he was 12. Didn't feel overly spongy. You just need to stay out of their gun fire. But if course if level is full of those it would be extremely hard. If you want to kill enemies 8 level above you, you can't be a noob. Games don't work that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AnK Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 41 minutes ago, hsk_colossus said: VATS is in fallout series… they didn’t “remove” it from starfield because it was never there … 29 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: VATS system was a necessity in Fallout 3, here combat is fun without it as well. Something similar has always been in WRPG’s & JRPGs Be it ElderScrolls,MassEffect,Fallout,Witcher or even FF15 & FF7R. So it’s not really a Fallout thing per se.. It’s the RPG thing of stopping time & planning your attack… But yes this game is a Fallout Clone so that’s why I used the term “VATS”. If you think it’s not a Fallout Clone then that’s your prerogative,please don’t come at me & start an argument in this thread…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 minute ago, AnK said: Something similar has always been in WRPG’s & JRPGs Be it ElderScrolls,MassEffect,Fallout,Witcher or even FF15 & FF7R. So it’s not really a Fallout thing per se.. It’s the RPG thing of stopping time & planning your attack… But yes this game is a Fallout Clone so that’s why I used the term “VATS”. If you think it’s not a Fallout Clone then that’s your prerogative,please don’t come at me & start an argument in this thread…. Really? Every rpg out there has VATS system or something similar? I had no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: Really? Every rpg out there has VATS system or something similar? I had no idea. Have you played Mass Effect & Witcher 3?!? Both have time stopping mechanics to use Items/signs or weapons/bombs. So does FF15 & FF7R… Can’t remember Skyrim properly but I vaguely remember some sort of similar gameplay mechanism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 minute ago, AnK said: Have you played Mass Effect & Witcher 3?!? Both have time stopping mechanics to use Items/signs or weapons/bombs. So does FF15 & FF7R… Can’t remember Skyrim properly but I vaguely remember some sort of similar gameplay mechanism. They slow down time. Don't stop it like VATS. If you want to slow down time, there could be something in skill tree, i will check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: They slow down time. Don't stop it like VATS. If you want to slow down time, there could be something in skill tree, i will check. Even VATS only slows down time in FO4…..doesn’t really stop it completely like FO3!! Edited September 10, 2023 by AnK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, AnK said: Even VATS only slows down time in FO4…..doesn’t really stop it completely like FO3!! VATS take away your ability to shoot and determines your damage based on dice roll. It's effectively a turn based game system in FPS rpg. No game has that, that I have played. I have played most of those you listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: VATS take away your ability to shoot and determines your damage based on dice roll. It's effectively a turn based game system in FPS rpg. No game has that, that I have played. I have played most of those you listed. I know exactly what it is & how it’s different from each game according their own mechanics. But saying this “turn based” time stopping/slowing is exclusive to Fallout & it’s VATS system is not true. Similar things are fairly common in all kinds of W/Jrpgs. It’s not really a “Fallout thing” is all I am saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsk_colossus Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 53 minutes ago, AnK said: Something similar has always been in WRPG’s & JRPGs Be it ElderScrolls,MassEffect,Fallout,Witcher Don’t remember them having VATS.… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRINI87 Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 People using KB/mouse should install starUI just like Skyui for skyrim easy to use https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/773 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 You can get pretty much lost just hopping around doing nothing of consequence and it's still hard to put down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takeda Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 I installed sheilded cargo hold capcity 350 along with 4 single frequency jammers and i still cant smuggle any contraband without getting detected. I always have 0 evade chance for some reason. Anyone got any tips? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsk_colossus Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Kazarka said: I installed sheilded cargo hold capcity 350 along with 4 single frequency jammers and i still cant smuggle any contraband without getting detected. I always have 0 evade chance for some reason. Anyone got any tips? Don’t break the law 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggr happy ss Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 (edited) Game looks great ,big streamers loving it apparently Edited September 10, 2023 by triggr happy ss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMNTR Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 Spoiler I was carrying a contrband item, got scanned by the UC and got a bounty on my head. Dropped the item in a free zone, grav jumped to an FC system, cleared the bounty, went back to the free system and the contraband item was still there. Picked it up and sold it. This f**king game! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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