roun90 Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Shantz said: That's not how it works. Any share of the profits do not go to shareholders in any % unless a company declares dividends and the dividends are generally paltry. The benefits of these investments are generally realized by either having an influence in the direction the invested company takes and/or by exiting the investment when the valuation soars. So you will not see any money coming to Sony from this investment any time soon. It's a circle. Whether to declare dividends, or to re-invest in business, and if re-invest, them what to re-invest in - all those decisions are taken at the Shareholders' meeting. Directors cannot unilaterally decide whether to declare dividends or to keep money to themselves. But yes, the strongest say will always go to the majority shareholders - in this case Tencent and Tim Sweeney (If he has a sizeable investment). Sony will be invited to those meetings and get their say, but ultimately TS and Tencent will decide. But I would say they will keep Sony happy. 2% investment is actually huge in a giant corporation, and Sony will see returns soon enough. Sony definitely are not going to get any strong decision making powers over Epic from this investment though - that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zod Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 12 hours ago, pArth said: What a move sony Now they just need to force them to make PS exclusive. More like we will see Sony games on Epic store in future. Plus PC is the only way to enjoy PS games at 60 fps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnackChap Posted July 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Xbox’s Phil Spencer Says PS5-Style Next-Gen Exclusives “Counter to What Gaming is About” Quote Later in the interview, Spencer goes a step further, saying Sony’s next-gen-exclusive-focused approach is “completely counter to what gaming is about”… Quote As a player you are the centre of our strategy. Our device is not the centre of our strategy, our game is not the centre of the strategy. We want to enable you to play the games you want to play, with the friends you want to play with, on any device. […] Gaming is about entertainment and community and diversion and learning new stories and new perspectives, and I find it completely counter to what gaming is about to say that part of that is to lock people away from being able to experience those games. Or to force someone to buy my device on the day that I want them to go buy it, in order to partake in what gaming is about. https://wccftech.com/xbox-phil-spencer-next-gen-exclusives-counter-to-what-gaming-is-about/amp/?__twitter_impression=true What a fkin moron. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstationdude Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) Abey yaar kya ch**** hai Why are they Shouting "Most Powahful console evah" if device doesnt matter. Edited July 10, 2020 by playstationdude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pArth Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, KnackChap said: Xbox’s Phil Spencer Says PS5-Style Next-Gen Exclusives “Counter to What Gaming is About” https://wccftech.com/xbox-phil-spencer-next-gen-exclusives-counter-to-what-gaming-is-about/amp/?__twitter_impression=true What a fkin moron. I want whatever this guy is smoking. wtf is he talking, locking people out from playing the games they want to play. The only way people are being locked out of playing good games is if they only buy the xbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapola Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 hours ago, KnackChap said: Xbox’s Phil Spencer Says PS5-Style Next-Gen Exclusives “Counter to What Gaming is About” when you start snorting this chooran.... we know you have an underbelly you dont want to show :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMNTR Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, KnackChap said: Xbox’s Phil Spencer Says PS5-Style Next-Gen Exclusives “Counter to What Gaming is About" That title is pure clickbait. Did you guys even read the original article? He actually never even mentions the PS5. He was just stating their strategy for Xbox. The original article is titled "Are Xbox Series X developers being held back by Xbox One?" That was him explaining why some of their games are coming to X1, XSX and the PC. Of course, you may not agree with his justification but that's another thing. Edited July 10, 2020 by -13- Added context Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 Dude talks a lot and people lap it up. That article has so many hot takes even PC gamers are like 'wtf is he talking about?' If future of gaming is device-less then why are they not putting Halo Infinite on PS5? If they don't want to force people to but next gen then why are they funding The Medium which is exclusive to next-gen? And why does this "all inclusive" and "consumer friendly" strategy have a one year expiry date? Are the xbots in 2022 going to say "yeah it was consumer friendly until last year but now its all about next-gen" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomShade Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 Quote Frankly, “held back” is a meme that gets created by people who are too caught up in device competition. […] The diversity of hardware choice in PC has not held back the highest fidelity PC games on the market. The highest fidelity PC games rival anything that anybody has ever seen in video games. So this idea that developers don't know how to build games, or game engines, or ecosystems, that work across a set of hardware... there's a proof point in PC that shows that's not the case. There is a reason all Blizzard games and e-Sports titles look potato compared to your generic 2020 AAA game you find There is also a reason that 3 year old GPUs are in the "recommended" specs of games like RDR2 and RE3 Remake. recommended in PC specs speak nearly always is for some garbage 1080p/30fps garbage console quality preset, not exactly the reason that you bought a gaming PC for, so again your GPU has to exceed whatever is in the "recommended" to play PC Games in the HiGhEsT FiDeLitY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMNTR Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 3 hours ago, CarbonCore said: Dude talks a lot and people lap it up. That article has so many hot takes even PC gamers are like 'wtf is he talking about?' If future of gaming is device-less then why are they not putting Halo Infinite on PS5? If they don't want to force people to but next gen then why are they funding The Medium which is exclusive to next-gen? And why does this "all inclusive" and "consumer friendly" strategy have a one year expiry date? Are the xbots in 2022 going to say "yeah it was consumer friendly until last year but now its all about next-gen" That is their PR talk. Of course he is bullshitting. It is a given why they release their games on multiple platforms. They know their games won't do well as exclusives; which is why they're focussed on Game Pass now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstationdude Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, -13- said: That is their PR talk. Of course he is bullshitting. It is a given why they release their games on multiple platforms. They know their games won't do well as exclusives; which is why they're focussed on Game Pass now. Which is kinda strange, as their flagship titles are pretty good. Although Gears halo forza have had multiple releases, most of them are actually good. Even ori and cuphead are great. The only thing MS needs to do is diversify the variety of their exclusives, god knows why they are just focussing on FPS games as revealed in the last show. They have everything else in place-: Series X is powerful, design wise I presonally like it more than ps5 and their build quality is definitely more premium compared to PS. Only thing lacking is variety in genre of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMNTR Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, playstationdude said: Which is kinda strange, as their flagship titles are pretty good. Although Gears halo forza have had multiple releases, most of them are actually good. Even ori and cuphead are great. The only thing MS needs to do is diversify the variety of their exclusives, god knows why they are just focussing on FPS games as revealed in the last show. They have everything else in place-: Series X is powerful, design wise I presonally like it more than ps5 and their build quality is definitely more premium compared to PS. Only thing lacking is variety in genre of games. Their lack of effort this gen will take so many years to fix. Yes, some titles are good (my favs: Hellblade, Ori and Cuphead), however, other titles don't hold a candle to the quality Sony is producing. They'll really need to come up with some amazing games to win some trust back. Edited July 11, 2020 by -13- Grammar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 Hellblade isn't really their effort though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnackChap Posted July 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 Neither was cuphead. It got locked into a exclusive agreement after the initial trailer good positive reactions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zod Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, CarbonCore said: Hellblade isn't really their effort though. It will be now. July 23rd will be death of - "Xbox Haz No games" Memes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, KnackChap said: Neither was cuphead. It got locked into a exclusive agreement after the initial trailer good positive reactions. I think they still fully funded its long development. Hellblade was just completely independent till the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnackChap Posted July 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 Yeah they expanded the scope of the game after the exclusivity deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstationdude Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, WhiteWolf said: It will be now. July 23rd will be death of - "Xbox Haz No games" Memes. Or a kick in the nuts for xbox fanboys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gecko89 Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/07/rumour_black_and_red_ps5_console_spotted_in_sony_marketing_material Red and Black PS5 in official Sony marketing pamphlet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMNTR Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, playstationdude said: Or a kick in the nuts for xbox fanboys. That will not be a first, or second, or even a third for that matter. By now, most Xbox owners have swollen nuts the size of an elephant. ? Here's hoping this time it's genuinely good and not like the current-gen E3s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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