The Last of Us : Part II

[SpearHea:D]

Major leaks. Daaammnn Nd & Sony must be pissed now.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-last-of-us-part-2-new-snippet-might-be-leaked-update-major-plot-detail-leaked.178988/page-10

[SpearHea:D]

Nah, just watched the clip, dont think what they saying is true. f**ckin resetera.

[STICK3Rboy]

Goddamnit! Release the game digitally, Sony! 

[SpearHea:D]

Location list leaked Damn.

 

[SpearHea:D]

So reportedly the game ending was streamed on twitter. Game over if true.

Should be out in few mins.

 

[Heaven Angel]

Woah, that's some BIG spoiler leak. 

Naughty Dog must be pissed and Sony to ND. 

[Heaven Angel]

1 hour ago, STICK3Rboy said:

Goddamnit! Release the game digitally, Sony! 

 

They should've released the game, but ND n Sony wanted the big pie of physical sales too..

 

Story was the most crucial part of this game. Now because of these leaks the initial sales might suffer, people will hold their purchases and wait for sale. 

Edited April 26, 2020 by Heaven Angel

[radicaldude]

I am not clicking anything that reads TLOU2

 

PS:- what exactly has been leaked?  story? ending? some new gameplay mechanics?

[Mysteryman]

16 minutes ago, radicaldude said:

I am not clicking anything that reads TLOU2

 

PS:- what exactly has been leaked?  story? ending? some new gameplay mechanics?

You don’t want to know. Major story leaks. 

[roun90]

8 hours ago, STICK3Rboy said:

Goddamnit! Release the game digitally, Sony! 

 

Don't think they can. Relationships are of paramount importance in any business. And TLOU2 is a major release. Releasing digital only means pissing off all the physical suppliers with whom they have a contract with. Those suppliers are already taking losses due to Corona, but giving away TLOU2 digitally, will even take away their hope that as soon as they can start business again - they can rapidly recover due to instant major releases like TLOU2. And stunts like this, will in turn affect how much stock of PS5 Consoles and other future physical games the retailers will keep in stock.

 

In short - it's a sensible business decision. TLOU2 by itself is not worth getting into disputes with their entire physical seller contact list. And that list is not only retailers. It also includes the distributors, the wholesalers, the stockists, the logistics guys etc. throughout the entire World. That's a lot of people you piss off. Remember - Relationships take a lifetime to build, but some bad decisions can ruin them. And in this case, even lead to tremendous losses and even failure of consoles for the company. So unless they somehow find a way to ship physical (Like Atlus with Persona 5 Royal or SE with Final Fantasy 7 Remake), expect this game to be delayed until the entire COVID19 case is over. If the game is spoiled online and all gamers look at it - well it's on them. They can look forward to TLOU3 in that case.

 

Expect same with Ghost of Tsushima and all other major releases as well. Small games and less popular IPs can still go the digital only route though.  If TLOU2 and GOT flops, well Sony can take the loss of 1-2 games. Plus, it will give major rep that Sony stands with it's partners in all crises. That's some major goodwill. But the opposite, will also have the opposite effect.

Edited April 27, 2020 by roun90

[radicaldude]

12 minutes ago, roun90 said:

 

Don't think they can. Relationships are of paramount importance in any business. And TLOU2 is a major release. Releasing digital only means pissing off all the physical suppliers with whom they have a contract with. Those suppliers are already taking losses due to Corona, but giving away TLOU2 digitally, will even take away their hope that as soon as they can start business again - they can rapidly recover due to instant major releases like TLOU2. And stunts like this, will in turn affect how much stock of PS5 Consoles and other future physical games the retailers will keep in stock.

 

In short - it's a sensible business decision. TLOU2 by itself is not worth getting into disputes with their entire physical seller contact list. And that list is not only retailers. It also includes the distributors, the wholesalers, the stockists, the logistics guys etc. throughout the entire World. That's a lot of people you piss off. Remember - Relationships take a lifetime to build, but some bad decisions can ruin them. And in this case, even lead to tremendous losses and even failure of consoles for the company. So unless they somehow find a way to ship physical (Like Atlus with Persona 5 Royal or SE with Final Fantasy 7 Remake), expect this game to be delayed until the entire COVID19 case is over. If the game is spoiled online and all gamers look at it - well it's on them. They can look forward to TLOU3 in that case.

 

Expect same with Ghost of Tsushima and all other major releases as well. Small games and less popular IPs can still go the digital only route though.  

 

I agree. Releasing games digitally might just spoil the physical games market (which I dont want)

 

I think they should just launch the game (physically) as well in the markets where it is possible. Unless they want to make drastic visual changes (read for PS5) there is no point in delaying the game indefinitely. I mean RE3, FF7 et al got released during the heights of the pandemic and they did decently well. I am sure many would get the physical copies in the Americas and EU regions via mail.

 

PS:- Even if the whole game leaks online, it wont be of much use as people wont be able to play it Sony would release patches every damn day to make it unplayable

[CarbonCore]

FF7 sold more than any Sony game, more than GoW and Spiderman, at the height of the pandemic. But yeah keep pandering to physical media while you sit on a finished game.

[Zod]

21 minutes ago, CarbonCore said:

FF7 sold more than any Sony game, more than GoW and Spiderman, at the height of the pandemic. But yeah keep pandering to physical media while you sit on a finished game.

Yup, physical sales thing is bs. Majority of people today buy games digitally.  We here in India where internet infrastructure is mostly sh*t buy games digitally now.

 

Sony is just being greedy.

[hope]

Click or not 

[roun90]

1 hour ago, CarbonCore said:

FF7 sold more than any Sony game, more than GoW and Spiderman, at the height of the pandemic. But yeah keep pandering to physical media while you sit on a finished game.

 

You do realize that FF7 Remake had a physical release right? And a lot of people brought it and are still buying it in a lot of places (Namely: USA) which are major markets + where people are flouting Lockdown norms (or there is no lockdown in the first place). FF7R wa so successful physically that it was going out of stock with retailers the world over, despite COVID. 

 

The thing is (And this is my guess), for those games (FF7R, P5R etc.), the stock was already in place. Game was slated to be released in April beginning, so Blu-Rays should have been done by Feb end and shipped out to retailers. TLOU2 might not have reached this stage at all. Hence they couldn't replicate it as COVID norms became tighter.

 

Also, forget about FF7 being the most successful game. It's not even the fastest selling FF game. FF15 sold 5 million on it's first day (Unlike the 3.5 million of FF7). Also, both the 3.5 million and 5 million of FF15 are "Shipped" nos., and not the actual "Sold" nos. (All of which includes physical as well)

 

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/71952/final-fantasy-7-remake-is-huge-success-with-3-5-million-sales/index.html

https://www.gamesradar.com/final-fantasy-7-remake-launch-numbers-broke-35-million-in-first-3-days/

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/55263/final-fantasy-xv-ships-five-million-units-first-day/index.html

 

46 minutes ago, WhiteWolf said:

Yup, physical sales thing is bs. Majority of people today buy games digitally.  We here in India where internet infrastructure is mostly sh*t buy games digitally now.

 

Sony is just being greedy.

 

Consider this - Sony releases a console that is digital only. In other words, dedicated game sellers cannot sell physical games at all. Why would they even be in business? Those sellers will just switch over to other electronics. This will affect all sellers and 3rd parties

 

30 minutes ago, adity said:

I think Sony has enough clout to not be bothered by that. Are the distributors really gonna say no to stocking a console and games which everyone wants? I don't think so. 

 

It's not a question of clout. Majority of sales does not happen to dedicated "Gamers" , and over here, the physical sellers can subtly influence the sales. For example, millions buy PS4s just to play FIFA with friends. These are not pure "Gamers", just casuals who don't care about exclusives - but don't want to play on PC and just play co-op with a controller.  Same with GTA. And that's where the majority of console sales come from in the first place.

 

Well, over here the retailers can just promote the XBOX to them, maybe even keep better deals. They can also keep very less stock of PS5s, so all who have a habit of gaming on PS, will switch over to Xbox for example. That is screwing over Sony in a major way.

Edited April 27, 2020 by roun90

[Guest]

Apparently angry dev leaked it over payment dispute. 

 

Links to leaked content below. Obviously don't watch if you don't want spoilers.

 

https://streamable.com/fnhdhs

https://streamable.com/sx0ob9

https://streamable.com/lguem4

https://streamable.com/nwkj8g

https://streamable.com/97ajcx

https://streamable.com/15lozi

https://streamable.com/d0jpos

 

oof

[l33tmaniac]

7 minutes ago, roun90 said:

 

You do realize that FF7 Remake had a physical release right? And a lot of people brought it and are still buying it in a lot of places (Namely: USA) which are major markets + where people are flouting Lockdown norms (or there is no lockdown in the first place). FF7R wa so successful physically that it was going out of stock with retailers the world over, despite COVID. 

 

The thing is (And this is my guess), for those games (FF7R, P5R etc.), the stock was already in place. Game was slated to be released in April beginning, so Blu-Rays should have been done by Feb end and shipped out to retailers. TLOU2 might not have reached this stage at all. Hence they couldn't replicate it as COVID norms became tighter.

 

Also, forget about FF7 being the most successful game. It's not even the fastest selling FF game. FF15 sold 5 million on it's first day (Unlike the 3.5 million of FF7).

 

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/71952/final-fantasy-7-remake-is-huge-success-with-3-5-million-sales/index.html

 

 

Consider this - Sony releases a console that is digital only. In other words, dedicated game sellers cannot sell physical games at all. Why would they even be in business? Those sellers will just switch over to other electronics. This will affect all sellers and 3rd parties

 

 

It's not a question of clout. Majority of sales does not happen to dedicated "Gamers" , and over here, the physical sellers can subtly influence the sales. For example, millions buy PS4s just to play FIFA with friends. These are not pure "Gamers", just casuals who don't care about exclusives - but don't want to play on PC and just play with a controller.  Same with GTA. And that's where the majority of console sales come from in the first place.

 

Well, over here the retailers can just promote the XBOX to them, maybe even keep better deals. They can also keep very less stock of PS5s, so all who have a habit of gaming on PS, will switch over to Xbox for example. That is screwing over Sony in a major way.

 

Also, with games becoming larger and larger in size and with both PS5 and Xbox Series X fast SSD likely to be expensive and short on capacity, I guess physical games might make more sense in the next generation. How likely are you to buy a new SSD/HDD only to dump your digital downloads when you can buy a physical game that you can install, play, delete and re-install whenever you want?

The alternative would be to have exclusive HDD/SSD only to act as a game dump. Or re-download 100/200 GB game every time you want. 

[CarbonCore]

6 minutes ago, roun90 said:

 

You do realize that FF7 Remake had a physical release right? And a lot of people brought it and are still buying it in a lot of places (Namely: USA) which are major markets + where people are flouting Lockdown norms (or there is no lockdown in the first place). FF7R wa so successful physically that it was going out of stock with retailers the world over, despite COVID. 

 

The thing is (And this is my guess), for those games (FF7R, P5R etc.), the stock was already in place. Game was slated to be released in April beginning, so Blu-Rays should have been done by Feb end and shipped out to retailers. TLOU2 might not have reached this stage at all. Hence they couldn't replicate it as COVID norms became tighter.

 

Also, forget about FF7 being the most successful game. It's not even the fastest selling FF game. FF15 sold 5 million on it's first day (Unlike the 3.5 million of FF7).

 

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/71952/final-fantasy-7-remake-is-huge-success-with-3-5-million-sales/index.html

 

FF15 was on 2 platforms and was insanely overshipped. FF7 has been out of stock for majority of the pre-release window, so for it shipped is basically sold numbers. If Sony wants they can manufacture disks and ship them worldwide. The factories in China are not shut anymore like they were for FF7 copies.

[hope]

Saw the spoiler thread on Era. If thats true then my assumption of this game being too dark and negative is true. 

 

Do not like at all what i read. Its too complex. Envoking those emotions will be mighty difficult to pull off. 

 

Like it or not though, not buying a ND game is stupidity. Day 1 peeps. 

[Sach4life]

9 hours ago, Heaven Angel said:

 

They should've released the game, but ND n Sony wanted the big pie of physical sales too..

 

Story was the most crucial part of this game. Now because of these leaks the initial sales might suffer, people will hold their purchases and wait for sale. 

 

Shame on them for wanting to sell their game to the maximum potential