gecko89 Posted August 10, 2022 Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 22 hours ago, Mr. Comingle said: It’s a really faithful adaptation of the comics [except the forced diversity]. I’m glad Neil Gaiman was involved. Haven't read the comics, so no idea who all were altered. But having the author work closely with the showrunner is very good for the series. I doubt he'd have allowed for a change if it didn't matter much. I know they tried to get Tom Ellis for lucifer but his Lucy has gone through a character transformation in his series and wouldn't have been a good fit here. Edited August 10, 2022 by gecko89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STICK3Rboy Posted August 10, 2022 Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said: Very weird changes. Like it was John Constantine in the comics which got changed to a lesbian female. Rose Walker was white who is now black who has a gay room mate. None of these are too egregious other than the replacement of John Constantine but it does feel like ticking off on a D&I checklist. WTF! I was looking forward to seeing Constantine on the show. I remember even reading somewhere that Matt Ryan might be returning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gecko89 Posted August 10, 2022 Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said: Very weird changes. Like it was John Constantine in the comics which got changed to a lesbian female. Rose Walker was white who is now black who has a gay room mate. None of these are too egregious other than the replacement of John Constantine but it does feel like ticking off on a D&I checklist. Pff, and I thought Johanna was some alternate female version from the comics. They could have used Matt or even Keanu for present day John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted August 10, 2022 Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Mr. Comingle said: Very weird changes. Like it was John Constantine in the comics which got changed to a lesbian female. Rose Walker was white who is now black who has a gay room mate. None of these are too egregious other than the replacement of John Constantine but it does feel like ticking off on a D&I checklist. Wtf they replaced John Constantine with some female Just checked it's Johanna Constantine. Edited August 10, 2022 by Big Boss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitinveer Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 On 8/9/2022 at 9:55 PM, Big Boss said: Thanks for discussing Reacher here guys. Saw first episode and liked it. Finally a protagonist who actually looks like he can kick some a*s and kicks it too. Perfect casting. Completed watching Reacher. It is great adaptation of the book although some changes were little annoying. Overall great TV show. Spoiler I wanted to see Kliner Jr death as in books but it turned out differently in the show 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan_Hunt Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 I was just about to start Reacher as well. For some reason, random clips of it kept getting recommended to me in my YouTube recommendations. I saw the first episodes prison clip and said, bam, that is exactly what I need. It's great to see Alan Ritchson in this badarse role. He was hilarious as Thad in Blue Mountain State and that's the last role I can associate for him and probably from the movie Wedding Ringer. So that's a massive change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roun90 Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) On 8/10/2022 at 2:07 PM, Mr. Comingle said: Very weird changes. Like it was John Constantine in the comics which got changed to a lesbian female. Rose Walker was white who is now black who has a gay room mate. None of these are too egregious other than the replacement of John Constantine but it does feel like ticking off on a D&I checklist. On 8/10/2022 at 2:22 PM, STICK3Rboy said: WTF! I was looking forward to seeing Constantine on the show. I remember even reading somewhere that Matt Ryan might be returning. 18 hours ago, Big Boss said: Wtf they replaced John Constantine with some female Just checked it's Johanna Constantine. This one is not a Diversity Checklist. Netflix did not have the rights to John Constantine. HBO Max had the rights to John Constantine, and J.J. Abrams is developing a John Constantine show for HBO Max. Seems they are making a Justice League Dark show and John Constantine is going to be a central character in it. Still from all reports, the story is the same as the comics. I liked the portrayal of Constantine (and the sarcastic name "Johanna" which is just a female version of John and kind of a F.U. to HBO) That said though, the Constantine in this one was not that "Untrustworthy". I've seen other portrayals, like in DCeased comics - where John Constantine was a straight up a****hole. Here, the girl (and guy in comics I guess) was pretty friendly and trust-worthy. https://dmtalkies.com/john-constantine-replaced-by-johanna-in-netflix-the-sandman-2022/ https://geekositymag.com/rights-issues-prevented-john-constantine-on-netflix-the-sandman/ Edited August 11, 2022 by roun90 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, roun90 said: This one is not a Diversity Checklist. Netflix did not have the rights to John Constantine. HBO Max had the rights to John Constantine, and J.J. Abrams is developing a John Constantine show for HBO Max. Seems they are making a Justice League Dark show and John Constantine is going to be a central character in it. Still from all reports, the story is the same as the comics. I liked the portrayal of Constantine (and the sarcastic name "Johanna" which is just a female version of John and kind of a F.U. to HBO) That said though, the Constantine in this one was not that "Untrustworthy". I've seen other portrayals, like in DCeased comics - where John Constantine was a straight up a****hole. Here, the girl (and guy in comics I guess) was pretty friendly and trust-worthy. https://dmtalkies.com/john-constantine-replaced-by-johanna-in-netflix-the-sandman-2022/ https://geekositymag.com/rights-issues-prevented-john-constantine-on-netflix-the-sandman/ Makes sense then. Thanks for clearing this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STICK3Rboy Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, roun90 said: I liked the portrayal of Constantine (and the sarcastic name "Johanna" which is just a female version of John and kind of a F.U. to HBO) Johanna Constantine is actually a character in the comics. She's John's ancestor. If they've replaced John with Johanna, I wonder what they're going to do with her actual story. I guess I'll just have to watch the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinJo Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 Not to forget they skipped justice league completely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silv3rgunn3r Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 Didn't know peacemaker is there on prime. Heard a lot about it. Will start this soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanjosh Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 Decided on a whim to watch Hawkeye. I'm really enjoying it. Very down to earth personal series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohit9206 Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 Haunting of Hill House is so damn good. Yet to finish it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanjosh Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, dylanjosh said: Decided on a whim to watch Hawkeye. I'm really enjoying it. Very down to earth personal series. Finished it. Surprised by how much i liked it. The character arc's are great, nice character developement by the end and great relationship building between Kate and Clint. I think Kate might be my favourite of the younger group of heroes. I liked that the scope is small and not some universe-ending sh*t like Ms Marvel. Tony Dalton was a delight and it felt like he brought the charisma of Lalo Salamanca here too. Spoiler Nice to see Fisk again. Only negative is that I wish they would stop with the Marvel quirkiness of every character, spitting one-liners every 2 seconds. Hopefully the new Daredevil show is not like that. Edited August 14, 2022 by dylanjosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harsh1387 Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 8 hours ago, silv3rgunn3r said: Didn't know peacemaker is there on prime. Heard a lot about it. Will start this soon You are in for a treat. Its awesome fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr. Comingle said: Sandman season 1 is phenomenal 24/7 - Now that is one weird episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr. Comingle said: The comics are way more sinister Never really liked the art style, and hence never read them. But all episodes after 24/7 are soooo good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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0verlord Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 Sandman - 9/10 pretty good s01, superb soundtrack but next seasons should be much more interesting and action packed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamX Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, 0verlord said: Sandman - 9/10 pretty good s01, superb soundtrack but next seasons should be much more interesting and action packed Ah, it's a TV series now, wow! Loved the audiobook, will check this one out. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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