cyberpunk Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 (edited) 49 minutes ago, gecko89 said: Are these within 24 hours? Yep and all are way above Avatar 2. 44 minutes ago, gecko89 said: Like the top comment in that reddit page says, everyone underestimates Cameron, all the time. Titanic started slow them blew every record wide open. It took decades and a marvels conclusion movie for 22 (half of which are either trash or redundant anyway) other movies to barely beat it. And now this, after 13 years everyone says that no one cares and yet it's turning heads. Even if it makes half of the original, it's still a win. Hate Marvel all you want, but no one expected Avengers to be this big when even DC's Justice League couldn't make half of the first Avengers despite having some of the most popular superheros in it. What they have built is nothing short of remarkable. We live in an age where the new Doctor Strange movie will outgross the latest Batman within first few weeks of its release. Cameron is great, no need to bring down others to propel him up. I wish he made more original movies than more Avatar sequels his entire life, but it is what it is. I'm still waiting for the The Abyss to be on Blu-Ray! Edited May 16 by cyberpunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gecko89 Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 25 minutes ago, cyberpunk said: Yep and all are way above Avatar 2. Hate Marvel all you want, but no one expected Avengers to be this big when even DC's Justice League couldn't make half of the first Avengers despite having some of the most popular superheros in it. What they have built is nothing short of remarkable. We live in an age where the new Doctor Strange movie will outgross the latest Batman within first few weeks of its release. Cameron is great, no need to bring down others to propel him up. I wish he made more original movies than more Avatar sequels his entire life, but it is what it is. I'm still waiting for the The Abyss to be on Blu-Ray! First of all, the list you posted is of lifetime views not 24hours. Secondly, I genuinely think half of the marvel movies are either boring or redundant or both, that's my opinion. This also implies I liked or enjoyed the rest of it. Infact infinity war was better than endgame imo. This doesn't mean hate in anyway. No one is putting MCU down, you don't have to jump in like a defense squad. The movies I disliked in MCU, I wouldn't touch again with a ten foot pole. Meanwhile Ridley Scott's Gladiator or James Cameron Terminators I've seen probably a dozen times at least. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Pain Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 Why are Marlel fans always so triggered by Avatar? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumar123 Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 2 hours ago, gecko89 said: Like the top comment in that reddit page says, everyone underestimates Cameron, all the time. Titanic started slow them blew every record wide open. It took decades and a marvels conclusion movie for 22 (half of which are either trash or redundant anyway) other movies to barely beat it. And now this, after 13 years everyone says that no one cares and yet it's turning heads. Even if it makes half of the original, it's still a win. If the movie releases in China, it's going to cross a billion easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumar123 Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 5 hours ago, Max Pain said: Neil Druckmann is co-writing TLOU for HBO. I'm sure it'll be very close to the video game. Personally, I think his writing in UC4 sucked a*s. By the way, the AVATAR 2 hype is REAL! f**k Cuckmann. f**king ruined TLOU2 and kicked out Amy Hennig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Pain Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 2 minutes ago, Kumar123 said: If the movie releases in China, it's going to cross a billion easy. I read that 22 million views are from China alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumar123 Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 2 hours ago, cyberpunk said: Yep and all are way above Avatar 2. Hate Marvel all you want, but no one expected Avengers to be this big when even DC's Justice League couldn't make half of the first Avengers despite having some of the most popular superheros in it. What they have built is nothing short of remarkable. We live in an age where the new Doctor Strange movie will outgross the latest Batman within first few weeks of its release. Cameron is great, no need to bring down others to propel him up. I wish he made more original movies than more Avatar sequels his entire life, but it is what it is. I'm still waiting for the The Abyss to be on Blu-Ray! Bruh what. The Justice League movie came way after The Avengers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumar123 Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 30 minutes ago, Max Pain said: Why are Marlel fans always so triggered by Avatar? Because Endgame was supposed to be the highest grossing movie of all time but then Chad Cameron rereleased Avatar again and got back the #1 position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, cyberpunk said: Yep and all are way above Avatar 2. Hate Marvel all you want, but no one expected Avengers to be this big when even DC's Justice League couldn't make half of the first Avengers despite having some of the most popular superheros in it. What they have built is nothing short of remarkable. We live in an age where the new Doctor Strange movie will outgross the latest Batman within first few weeks of its release. Cameron is great, no need to bring down others to propel him up. I wish he made more original movies than more Avatar sequels his entire life, but it is what it is. I'm still waiting for the The Abyss to be on Blu-Ray! Most (not all) Marvel movies are strictly watchable once. Comparing them to the likes of Cameron or Ridley Scott is just shitposting. One can watch and be highly entertained by the amazing direction of these two directors. Heck, without Cameron, there's no Terminator, Avatar, Aliens, Titanic, Abyss, RFB etc. Beyond the ones by Gunn, Marvel movies are highly generic, to the point of being boring if you watch then twice. Unfair to compare Cameron's acumen for direction to the money earned by Marvel since both are targeting different audiences. The floating mountains of Pandora - that scene is f**king etched in my eyes. The sheer scale of such grandiosity in 2009 was par excellence. Edited May 16 by Bird Bird Bird 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Pain Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 1 minute ago, Kumar123 said: Because Endgame was supposed to be the highest grossing movie of all time but then Chad Cameron rereleased Avatar again and got back the #1 position. Wait, didn't Marlel cheat by rereleasing Endgame first by adding "deleted" scenes with unfinished CGI just to beat Avatar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumar123 Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 22 minutes ago, Max Pain said: Wait, didn't Marlel cheat by rereleasing Endgame first by adding "deleted" scenes with unfinished CGI just to beat Avatar? Yeah lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 I have huge respect for Cameron and I am not sure why there is even a comparison between Marvel and him. BUT! Avatar? I watched that movie in 3D in cinema! It is average at best. Can easily be compared to any of the average/low quality Marvel movie. It is only after years I realized Avatar became the highest grossing movie of all time! That was a very.... Strange moment for me lol. I was like WTF?! How come that movie is even that much hyped?! Compared to other Cameron works, it's a huge dent in his career. Now they come up with a sequel which looks even shittier. But I'll probably catch the sequel, maybe it is me who is missing something. Trailer didn't attract me one bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberpunk Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 (edited) "Triggered" says the guy who can't make a single post without comparing everything to Marvel. Looks like it lives rent free in their head. And no I never called Cameron movies "bad" or "boring" like y'all are implying and getting so defensive about. It's just that his previous movies were all better than the generic Dances with Wolves copy Avatar. Old school action directors like him, Spielberg and George Miller are still way better than current day hacks like Michael Bay and Snyder. Edited May 16 by cyberpunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 6 minutes ago, dante77 said: I have huge respect for Cameron and I am not sure why there is even a comparison between Marvel and him. BUT! Avatar? I watched that movie in 3D in cinema! It is average at best. Can easily be compared to any of the average/low quality Marvel movie. It is only after years I realized Avatar became the highest grossing movie of all time! That was a very.... Strange moment for me lol. I was like WTF?! How come that movie is even that much hyped?! Compared to other Cameron works, it's a huge dent in his career. Now they come up with a sequel which looks even shittier. But I'll probably catch the sequel, maybe it is me who is missing something. Trailer didn't attract me one bit. Did you see anything which matched the scale and VFX back in 2009 ? The story was extremely basic, but what it lacked was made up by the environment. They should really have picked someone else to play Jack Sully. Cinematography, direction, VFX were unmatched during it's heyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3D_D3ViL Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 On 5/15/2022 at 10:25 PM, STICK3Rboy said: Watched this really good Norwegian movie the other night called The Innocents. It's about a bunch of little kids discovering that they have superpowers. Of course, one of them turns out to be an evil little sh*t who starts using his powers to hurt people. Even though the movie involves kids, it actually gets kinda disturbing with depictions of some pretty realistic violence and horror elements without ever going over the top. It's really well directed too, albeit very leisurely paced which can turn off some people (I personally liked it). Ohh and the kids' performances are f**king brilliant! The whole time I was watching the movie I was wondering how they got such young kids to act so damn well. Would definitely recommend checking it out if you don't mind slow-burn movies. Where can you watch this? Not finding this on the high seas as well. Didn't this release recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Pain Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 This guy is so f**king triggered just by the mere mention of Avatar that he had to bring Bay and Snyder out of nowhere into this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dante77 Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, Bird Bird Bird said: Did you see anything which matched the scale and VFX back in 2009 ? The story was extremely basic, but what it lacked was made up by the environment. They should really have picked someone else to play Jack Sully. Cinematography, direction, VFX were unmatched during it's heyday. I honestly can't say. Don't remember being mind-blowing but it could very well be my theater INOX. Now that you say it and vouching it so much. I am thinking of watching it on my TV in its full glory! Not sure if there is 4K version available. I didn't like it so never thought of rewatching. Will probably give your another shot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Pain Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 (edited) I saw it for the first time only a few years ago and still found it great. It has more sincerity than most of the blockbusters along with a straight-forward anti-colonialist message. I really like the protagonist too. I am speaking only story and execution wise though. I think while the CGI *looks* outdated in some places at night, it’s still good for the most part, especially the environments, and it’s not at all floaty/weightless/jerky like we see in today’s rushed blockbusters, even in action scenes (which are still awesome by the way). Avatar only sticks out sometimes because it takes place on an alien planet. Then again, CGI/Pandora is only a tool/excuse for Cameron to tell his anti-american story at a large scale. Nothing more, and he did his job perfectly. I’ll take as many Avatar sequels as I can as long as Cameron desires to make them. Edited May 16 by Max Pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STICK3Rboy Posted May 16 Author Report Share Posted May 16 (edited) 4 hours ago, R3D_D3ViL said: Where can you watch this? Not finding this on the high seas as well. Didn't this release recently? Released just recently in the US, but it seems to have been available on the high seas from quite a few months ago. Check PM. Edited May 16 by STICK3Rboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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