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12 hours ago, Vamos said:

 

Honestly, it doesn’t make any massive difference. 
I’m forced to use one console on Hdmi 2.0 as my Tv only has one hdmi 2.1 port and I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference if someone switches both the ports. 
 

Games that support 120 fps mode in 4K are so rare and in the last 2 years, there have been no meaningful applications. 


The other advantage is, hdmi 2.1 will be able to output RGB signal in HDR, whereas 2.0 switches to Yuv422. 

 

Honestly, no idea what it means but people just buy 2.1 coz that’s what YouTubers recommend for PS5/xsx. 


 

 


For regular unpatched games I agree the difference is not very big. 
It was always over hyped by the Xbox camp all along. 
 

But the games that have been officially patched & making use of double or even triple frame buffer thanks to 120hz inbuilt software support,the difference is significant.

 

Insominiac is doing some next level wizardary.

 

But apart from that every game that has been patched is running significantly better too. 
 

Also the games that ran 50-60 fps like Elden Ring,RE8 will also benefit at some level for sure. 

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1 hour ago, AnK said:


For regular unpatched games I agree the difference is not very big. 
It was always over hyped by the Xbox camp all along. 
 

But the games that have been officially patched & making use of double or even triple frame buffer thanks to 120hz inbuilt software support,the difference is significant.

 

Insominiac is doing some next level wizardary.

 

But apart from that every game that has been patched is running significantly better too. 
 

Also the games that ran 50-60 fps like Elden Ring,RE8 will also benefit at some level for sure. 

120 Hz and VRR make a big difference in MP games like Rocket league, Halo, etc. 

It's not overhyped. It's obviously not useful for SP games which lock to 60 let alone breach it. 

A big boon for games with unstable fps like Elden Ring too. 

It's funny you call it overhyped while also calling the difference significant. 

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13 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said:

It's funny you call it overhyped while also calling the difference significant. 


I said it was overhyped at launch on Xbox as some sort of game changing advantage over PS5. 
 

But as things went by the realisation came that the hardware supported VRR & LFC was actually no where close to to the software supported one,where the developer in his software is giving a double or even triple frame buffer to make use of the 120hz screen & remove any sort of stuttering. 
 

It’s only recently that even Xbox versions started to get official software patches to make proper use starting with Dying Light 2. 
 

For eg. at launch DF hyped how Xbox’s VRR support will benefit underperforming games in comparison to PS5:- 

 

 

But in actuality it was never giving any significant VRR support unless the developer supported it through a software patch:-

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, AnK said:


I said it was overhyped at launch on Xbox as some sort of game changing advantage over PS5. 
 

But as things went by the realisation came that the hardware supported VRR & LFC was actually no where close to to the software supported one,where the developer in his software is giving a double or even triple frame buffer to make use of the 120hz screen & remove any sort of stuttering. 
 

It’s only recently that even Xbox versions started to get official software patches to make proper use starting with Dying Light 2. 
 

For eg. at launch DF hyped how Xbox’s VRR support will benefit underperforming games in comparison to PS5:- 

 

 

But in actuality it was never giving any significant VRR support unless the developer supported it through a software patch:-

 

 

 

Sounds like gobbledygook. It's always been supported at a hardware level. LG oled models have a vrr range of 40 to 120 Hz. Anything that falls within that works. No need to double the frame buffer or whatever the f. 

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11 minutes ago, AnK said:


I said it was overhyped at launch on Xbox as some sort of game changing advantage over PS5. 
 

But as things went by the realisation came that the hardware supported VRR & LFC was actually no where close to to the software supported one,where the developer in his software is giving a double or even triple frame buffer to make use of the 120hz screen & remove any sort of stuttering. 
 

It’s only recently that even Xbox versions started to get official software patches to make proper use starting with Dying Light 2. 
 

For eg. at launch DF hyped how Xbox’s VRR support will benefit underperforming games in comparison to PS5:- 

 

 

But in actuality it was never giving any significant VRR support unless the developer supported it through a software patch:-

 

 

 

 

LMAO.

 

What is hardware supported and software supported VRR?

 

There is no such thing. VRR means variable refresh rate. That's exactly what it means and does. There is no scope for hardware or software level support for it. 

 

As for 120 hz mode, doing it at system level means even 30 fps games feel super responsive. On my new monitor i have been constantly playing 30 fps games. Not even once have i noticed or complained about it. 

 

Even my usual test method of barely touching analog sticks to move camera has failed. It responds similar to how 60 fps game would behave.

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Then why the f**k games like DMC on Xbox ran like dog sh*t in terms of stuttering if hardware level VRR was enough. 
 

& magically when it got patched by developer on PS5 it removed all stuttering all the time it stays in VRR range of 48-120fps. 
 

Just think about it. 
 

PS5’s VRR range is 48-120fps but still software induced LFC is doing wonders for Insomniac games in fidelity modes. 
 

Software level VRR/LFC will always be miles ahead of hardware level VRR enabling which even PS5 does now with its second VRR on/off toggle on games like Elden Ring. 
 

 

As for 120hz ALLM on locked 30fps or 60fps games….that’s got nothing to do with FPS/VRR/LFC
& many ppl say it makes no difference. 

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53 minutes ago, AnK said:

Then why the f**k games like DMC on Xbox ran like dog sh*t in terms of stuttering if hardware level VRR was enough. 
 

& magically when it got patched by developer on PS5 it removed all stuttering all the time it stays in VRR range of 48-120fps. 
 

Just think about it. 
 

PS5’s VRR range is 48-120fps but still software induced LFC is doing wonders for Insomniac games in fidelity modes. 
 

Software level VRR/LFC will always be miles ahead of hardware level VRR enabling which even PS5 does now with its second VRR on/off toggle on games like Elden Ring. 
 

 

As for 120hz ALLM on locked 30fps or 60fps games….that’s got nothing to do with FPS/VRR/LFC
& many ppl say it makes no difference. 

 

Some games favour xbox in terms of VRR performance. One game isn't enough to draw any conclusion.

 

Insomniac unlocked the frame rate and suddenly it became such a huge thing, a feature that's working on xbox since forever LMAO.

 

I have no complaints regarding VRR on Elden Ring or Guardian of the Galaxy both which run at unlocked frame rate.

 

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57 minutes ago, AnK said:

Then why the f**k games like DMC on Xbox ran like dog sh*t in terms of stuttering if hardware level VRR was enough. 
 

& magically when it got patched by developer on PS5 it removed all stuttering all the time it stays in VRR range of 48-120fps. 
 

Just think about it. 
 

PS5’s VRR range is 48-120fps but still software induced LFC is doing wonders for Insomniac games in fidelity modes. 
 

Software level VRR/LFC will always be miles ahead of hardware level VRR enabling which even PS5 does now with its second VRR on/off toggle on games like Elden Ring. 
 

 

As for 120hz ALLM on locked 30fps or 60fps games….that’s got nothing to do with FPS/VRR/LFC
& many ppl say it makes no difference. 

That's because Japanese devs are technologically challenged. 

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1 hour ago, AnK said:

Then why the f**k games like DMC on Xbox ran like dog sh*t in terms of stuttering if hardware level VRR was enough. 
 

& magically when it got patched by developer on PS5 it removed all stuttering all the time it stays in VRR range of 48-120fps. 
 

Just think about it. 
 

PS5’s VRR range is 48-120fps but still software induced LFC is doing wonders for Insomniac games in fidelity modes. 
 

Software level VRR/LFC will always be miles ahead of hardware level VRR enabling which even PS5 does now with its second VRR on/off toggle on games like Elden Ring. 
 

 

As for 120hz ALLM on locked 30fps or 60fps games….that’s got nothing to do with FPS/VRR/LFC
& many ppl say it makes no difference. 

Because the framerate on XSX swings wildly on DMC5 over a larger range

 

while the framerate on ps5 with spidey is relatively tight range and easily smooth-able

 

because -
 

52 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said:

That's because Japanese devs are technologically challenged. 

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1 hour ago, rAgHaV said:

Any way to make sure you get the console with the updated controller? Also any dates in terms of the next sale?

There's no option to choose which version you want.  You will get what Sony is currently supplying here

 

The PS5 i have was purchased in March and came with updated console controller.  Another user here who got PS5 in April also got the updated versions only . Sony is shipping only the newer models now I believe. 

Considering there was a drop yesterday . Next drop should be in June . 

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Wild Arms, Ape Escape, Syphon Filter, Hot Shots Golf, & Intelligent Qube Trophy Lists Revealed (All have Platinum's and separate PS4/PS5 Lists)

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List of games on the HK store

 

ABZU
Adr1ft
Age of Wonders: Planetfall
ALIENATION
AO Tennis 2
Ashen
Assassin's Creed Valhalla (PS4)
Assassin's Creed Valhalla (PS5)
Assetto Corsa Competizione (PS4)
Assetto Corsa Competizione (PS5)
AVICII Invector
Balan Wonderworld (PS4)
Balan Wonderworld (PS5)
Batman: Arkham Knight
Battle Chasers: Nightwar
Bee Simulator
Blasphemous
Bloodborne
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night
Bomber Crew
Bound
Bound by Flame
Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons
Caladrius Blaze
Call of Cthulhu
Child of Light
Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon EVERY BUDDY!
Chronos: Before the Ashes
Cities: Skylines
Concrete Genie: Digital Deluxe Edition
Control: Ultimate Edition (PS4)
Control: Ultimate Edition (PS5)
Damascus Gear: Operation Tokyo HD Edition
Darksiders Genesis
Darksiders III
Days Gone
Death end re;Quest2
DEATH STRANDING
DEATH STRANDING: DIRECTOR'S CUT
Deliver Us the Moon
DEMON'S SOULS
Desperados III
Destruction Allstars
Detroit: Become Human
Dreamfall Chapters
Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires
Eagle Flight
Elex
Embr (PS4)
Entwined
Everybody's Golf
Fade to Silence
Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon: Classic Edition
Far Cry 3: Classic Edition
Far Cry 4
FIGHTING EX LAYER - Standard Version
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII Remastered
Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster
Final Fantasy XII The Zodiac Age
Final Fantasy XV Royal Edition
Flatout 4: Total Insanity
For Honor
For the King
Foreclosed (PS4)
Foreclosed (PS5)
Friday the 13th: The Game
Gabbuchi
Get Even
GHOST OF TSUSHIMA: DIRECTOR'S CUT (PS4)
GHOST OF TSUSHIMA: DIRECTOR'S CUT (PS5)
Ghostrunner (PS4)
Ghostrunner (PS5)
GOD OF WAR
Golf with Your Friends
Graveyard Keeper
Gravity Rush 2
Greedfall (PS4)
Greedfall (PS5)
GRIP: Combat Racing
GUNVOLT CHRONICLES LUMINOUS AVENGER IX
HARVEST MOON LIGHT OF HOPE SPECIAL EDITION
Hello Neighbor
Hollow Knight: Voidheart Edition
Homefront: The Revolution
Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition
Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number
Hotshot Racing
How to Survive 2
How to Survive: Storm Warning Edition
Hue
Human Fall Flat (PS4)
Human Fall Flat (PS5)
I am Dead (PS4)
I am Dead (PS5)
inFAMOUS First Light
inFAMOUS Second Son
Injustice 2
Journey to the Savage Planet
KILLZONE SHADOW FALL
Killzone: Shadow Fall Intercept
Kingdom Come: Deliverance
Kingdom Two Crowns
KNACK
Kona (PS4)
Kona (PS5)
Last Day of June
Last Stop (PS4)
Last Stop (PS5)
Lawn Mowing Simulator (PS4)
Lawn Mowing Simulator (PS5)
Left Alive
Legendary Fishing
LEGO Batman 3: Beyond Gotham
LittleBigPlanet 3
Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Definitive Edition
Payday 2: Crimewave Edition
PGA Tour 2K21
Pillars of Eternity: Complete Edition
Pixel Piracy
Portal Knights
Prison Architect
Project CARS 2
Red Dead Redemption 2
Relicta
RESOGUN
RETURNAL
RIDE 4 (PS4)
RIDE 4 (PS5)
Risk Urban Assault
Saints Row: The Third Remastered (PS4)
Saints Row: The Third Remastered (PS5)
Secret Neighbor
Shadow of the Beast
Shadow of the Colossus
Shadow Warrior 3
Shiness: The Lightning Kingdom
Sniper Elite 4
SOMA
South Park: The Fractured but Whole
South Park: The Stick of Truth
Space Crew: Legendary Edition
Space Hulk: Deathwing - Enhanced Edition
Space Hulk: Tactics
Space Junkies
Star Ocean First Departure R
Star Trek: Bridge Crew
Starlink: Battle for Atlas
Steep
Steins;Gate Elite
Stellaris: Console Edition
Surviving Mars
Tearaway Unfolded
Tennis World Tour 2 (PS4)
Tennis World Tour 2 (PS5)
Terraria
The Artful Escape (PS4)
The Artful Escape (PS5)
The Book of Unwritten Tales 2
The Council - The Complete Season
The Crew
The Crew 2
The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited
The Fisherman - Fishing Planet
THE LAST GUARDIAN
The LEGO Movie Videogame
The Messenger
The MISSING: J.J. Macfield and the Island of Memories
The Surge
The Surge 2
The Technomancer
This is the Police
This is the Police 2
This War of Mine: The Little Ones
Tom Clancy's The Division
Totally Reliable Delivery Service
Tour de France 2021 (PS4)
Tour de France 2021 (PS5)
TowerFall Ascension
Trackmania Turbo
Transference
Trials Fusion
Trials of the Blood Dragon
Trials Rising
TT Isle of Man: Ride on the Edge 2
Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
Until Dawn
Valiant Hearts: The Great War
Vampyr
Virginia
Warhammer 40,000: Inquisitor - Martyr
Warhammer: Chaosbane - Slayer Edition (PS5)
Warhammer: Chaosbane (PS4)
Watch Dogs
Werewolf: The Apocalypse - Earthblood (PS4)
Werewolf: The Apocalypse - Earthblood (PS5)
Werewolves Within
Windbound
World of Final Fantasy
WRC 10 FIA World Rally Championship (PS4)
WRC 10 FIA World Rally Championship (PS5)
Wreckfest (PS4)
Wreckfest (PS5)
XCOM 2
Y School Heroes: Bustlin' School life
YO-KAI WATCH 4++
Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA
ZOMBI
Zombie Army 4: Dead War
11-11 Memories Retold
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Classics ( partial)

 

Ape Escape (PS1/PS4)
Ape Escape (PS1/PS5)
Batman: Return to Arkham - Arkham Asylum
Batman: Return to Arkham - Arkham City
BEYOND: Two Souls
BioShock 2 Remastered
Bioshock Infinite: The Complete Edition
BioShock Remastered
Borderlands: The Handsome Collection
Crysis Remastered
Darksiders Warmastered Edition
Darksiders II Deathinitive Edition
Dead Nation: Apocalypse Edition
Deadlight: Director´s Cut
Disney·PIXAR Toy Story 2: Buzz Lightyear to the Rescue (PS1/PS4)
Disney·PIXAR Toy Story 2: Buzz Lightyear to the Rescue (PS1/PS5)
Echochrome (PSP/PS4)
Echochrome (PSP/PS5)
God of War III Remastered
Gravity Rush Remastered
Heavy Rain
Hot Shots Golf (PS1/PS4)
Hot Shots Golf (PS1/PS5)
Hotline Miami
I.Q: Intelligent Qube (PS1/PS4)
I.Q: Intelligent Qube (PS1/PS5)
Jak & Daxter: The Precursor Legacy*
Jak II
Jak 3
Jak X: Combat Racing
Jumping Flash! (PS1/PS4)
Jumping Flash! (PS1/PS5)
Kingdoms of Amalur: Re-Reckoning
LEGO Harry Potter Collection
LocoRoco Remastered
LocoRoco 2 Remastered
Mafia: Definitive Edition
Mafia II: Definitive Edition
Metro: Last Light Redux
Metro 2033 Redux
Mr. Driller (PS1/PS4)
Mr. Driller (PS1/PS5)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee (PS1/PS4)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee (PS1/PS5)
Outcast - Second Contact
Patapon Remastered
PATAPON 2 REMASTERED
Rainbow Moon
Resident Evil
Syphon Filter (PS1/PS4)
Syphon Filter (PS1/PS5)
Tekken 2 (PS1/PS4)
Tekken 2 (PS1/PS5)
The Last of Us Remastered
The Last of Us: Left Behind
Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection*
Wild Arms (PS1/PS4)
Wild Arms (PS1/PS5)
WipEout: Omega Collection
Worms Armageddon (PS1/PS4)
Worms Armageddon (PS1/PS5)
Worms World Party (PS1/PS4)
Worms World Party (PS1/PS5)

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